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post #2551 of 4321
Hi Everyone,
First time poster here!
I just got this tv yesterday and I'm very excited about owning it but something in the settings has got me stumped. So if anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated!

I've seen 'Cinema 1' recommended for the Picture Mode setting. However, when I go into Picture Adjustments and try to change the Picture Mode, the only options available to me are, Standard, Vivid, and Custom. Not sure why I can't see any other options or if I missed something or set something else up incorrectly but if anyone can help, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
post #2552 of 4321
You will need to hit the Option buttons on the Remote and then Change the "Scene". For Cinema 1 you will need to select the "Scene" Cinema and then go in to Picture Options. Good luck and enjoy!
post #2553 of 4321
Thank you - that did it!
Can't wait to go through the settings and enjoy this tv!
post #2554 of 4321

For calibration without professional equipment I found the results from the below website to be the best baseline:

 

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1373877495

 

I tried the CNET values and while better than the factory settings I found the settings from the linked website to be better.

 

The only tweak I made was:

 

Contrast: 93 (+3) mod

 

WHITE BALLANCE:
R GAIN: -1
G GAIN: -6  << (-1) mod
B GAIN: 0
R BIAS: 0
G BIAS: -1
B BIAS: 0

 

These settings worked best. It was easy for me to see on a gray scale test image that the WB was way too far towards green and that seems common on a number of calibration reports.

post #2555 of 4321
Thanks. I've added them to my Calibration Word Doc. I'll give them a try.

Edit: Right off the bat I see the Backlight is too low for me. I prefer a brighter picture. I'll try them anyways and maybe make some adjustments.
post #2556 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by andremal View Post

Thanks. I've added them to my Calibration Word Doc. I'll give them a try.

Edit: Right off the bat I see the Backlight is too low for me. I prefer a brighter picture. I'll try them anyways and maybe make some adjustments.

 

No problems, I agree on the backlight I also modified that and forgot to mention it, I set the value to 7.

 

I was not too concerned with the backlight value as that's easy to adjust depending on your viewing environment for me the most difficult part was tweaking the colour and WB to the best values for my panel.

post #2557 of 4321
The Sound and Vision settings were the most accurate for my LG 47LX9500, so Im gonna try their settings for my upcoming Sony W900:

Review: http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-kdl-55w900a-3d-lcd-hdtv

Measures: http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-kdl-55w900a-3d-lcd-hdtv-ht-labs-measures

Settings: http://www.soundandvision.com/content/sony-kdl-55w900a-3d-lcd-hdtv-settings

2D 3D
Picture Mode: Cinema 1 Cinema 1
Scene Select Cinema Cinema
Backlight: 2 Max (fixed)
Picture: 90 90
Brightness: 51 50
Color: 55 44
Hue: 0 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2 Warm 2
Sharpness: 10 (see text) 10 (see text)
Noise Reduction: Off Off
MPEG Noise Reduction Off Off
Dot Noise Reduction Off Off
Smooth Gradation Off N/A
Reality Creation Manual Manual
Video Area Detection Off Off
Resolution 10 10
Noise Filtering 0 0
Motionflow Off Off
CineMotion: Auto 1 Auto 1
Advanced Settings
Black Corrector: Off Off
Advanced
Advanced Contrast Enhancer: Off Low
Gamma: 0 or +1 0
LED Dynamic Control Standard Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off N/A
Clear White: Off Off
Live Color: Off Off
White Balance:
Red Gain: 0 -8
Green Gain: 0 -10
Blue Gain: -1 0
Red Bias -1 -2
Green Bias: -1 0
Blue Bias: +1 -1
Detail Enhancer Off Off
Edge Enhancer Off Off
Skin Naturalizer --- ---
i/p Conversion Preference --- ---
Screen: Display Area Full Pixel Full Pixel
3D Settings All Default
Ambient Sensor Off Off
Pro Picture
HDMI Dynamic Range Auto Auto
Color Matrix Auto Auto
SBM On On
post #2558 of 4321

Interesting settings for 3D.

 

The 2D settings have some very minor tweaks to the WB, I think I would need more adjustment mine but worth a try.

post #2559 of 4321
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Originally Posted by alluringreality View Post


The description from the disc is not necessarily correct. Typically Sony does not allow a contrast setting that will clip near reference white. The range offered by Sony is likely completely fine, because the limited range may reduce some other possible problems when you go higher than Sony's allowable maximum setting. On my Sony TV I could enter the service menu to go higher and achieve the supposed "ideal", but I don't do that because the higher setting merely tends to cause other problems. Explaining things like WOW does is simple, but it's highly questionable, since it doesn't apply to many TVs. Even if Sony had given you that much range, going with the WOW description would not make the setting "ideal". My suggestion is just to set the contrast/picture control to maximum, since from a calibration standpoint that's probably better than being able to actually follow the WOW instructions.
By default most video players, except computers, output the extra video range. The PS3 is unusual, since it doesn't output the extra range by default. Generally video players output like the PS3's Super White setting out of the box.

If I understand correctly you're saying that the adjustment range of 0-100 of the Picture (Contrast) for Sony TVs (including the w900) is a much narrower range than 0-100 on any other brand of TV?  Correct?  The reason for the narrow range is to prevent poor picture quality created by owners messing up their picture settings.

post #2560 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by cubscrazy1 View Post

If I understand correctly you're saying that the adjustment range of 0-100 of the Picture (Contrast) for Sony TVs (including the w900) is a much narrower range than 0-100 on any other brand of TV?  Correct?

I am not familiar with various TV brands currently on the market, so I cannot compare typical contrast range. All I know for sure is that other brand TVs have been sold which cannot clip near reference white with the available range of contrast. There are other TVs that also show information above reference white at the maximum contrast setting, similar to Sony. All I'm really saying here is that Sony is not the only TV brand to have ever offered a digital TV with a contrast control that works this way, so I can understand how the WOW contrast instructions might be confusing.

Quote:
The reason for the narrow range is to prevent poor picture quality created by owners messing up their picture settings.

Yes, your comment is basically my opinion why Sony likely gives the contrast range that they offer. My TV tends to perform poorly with an even higher contrast setting. On my TV the limited contrast range essentially means that someone cannot blatantly set the contrast control too high, so I'm guessing that might be Sony's intent for the contrast range they also offer on other TVs.
Edited by alluringreality - 12/31/13 at 8:35pm
post #2561 of 4321
Hi,

I read somewhere that the 240hz of this tv is always active, regardless of Motion Flow On or Off. Is that correct?

Thanks.
post #2562 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morning5 View Post

Hi,

I read somewhere that the 240hz of this tv is always active, regardless of Motion Flow On or Off. Is that correct?

Thanks.

Yes, at all times the tv is running at 240hz. With motion smoothing features off, the tv will display each from of a 60hz signal four times.
post #2563 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by *UFO* View Post


Yes, at all times the tv is running at 240hz. With motion smoothing features off, the tv will display each from of a 60hz signal four times.

 

Does this mean if I connect my TV to a PC it will be running at 240Hz or 200Hz in my case being a PAL region?

 

I thought HDMI 1.4b was needed to display 1080p and anything above 60Hz due to bandwidth limits, so does this mean the TV is using 1.4b HDMI and not 1.4a?

 

A lot of gamers love the newer 120hz computer monitors, assuming your video card is running the game above 120fps it will show a smoother image but requires the PC video card be connected to the display using dual-link DVI. I wonder how it works with a 200Hz panel?

post #2564 of 4321

Thanks for the info alluringreality.

post #2565 of 4321
PC on HDMI = 60hz
post #2566 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by *UFO* View Post

Yes, at all times the tv is running at 240hz. With motion smoothing features off, the tv will display each from of a 60hz signal four times.

Thanks UFO.

Well my concern is about flicker. My LG 47LX9500 has 240hz Scanning Backlight that cannot be turned off (I even went inside Service Menu), and I can clearly see the flicker of it (image feels unnatural to me and artificial)

This Sony has no flicker? like old 60hz lcds?

To activate Scanning Backlight and Black Frame Insertion, do you need to use Impulse Mode in Motion Flow?
post #2567 of 4321

Hello fellow members, I bought this TV two days ago and I'm hoping if anyone know how to adjust the picture settings in this TV for the streaming contents e.g. for the built-in NetFlix app? I can't seems to find anywhere. As you may know once I launch the Netflix app from the TV the "options" and other controls are not available unless I exit out from the app first.

 

If the picture settings can not be changed once inside the Netflix app then any idea what settings it is using by default?

 

Thanks.

post #2568 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcmon View Post

Does this mean if I connect my TV to a PC it will be running at 240Hz or 200Hz in my case being a PAL region?

I thought HDMI 1.4b was needed to display 1080p and anything above 60Hz due to bandwidth limits, so does this mean the TV is using 1.4b HDMI and not 1.4a?

A lot of gamers love the newer 120hz computer monitors, assuming your video card is running the game above 120fps it will show a smoother image but requires the PC video card be connected to the display using dual-link DVI. I wonder how it works with a 200Hz panel?

This tv will not accept anything higher than 60hz, from any input. So if you are using your PC as input, the input signal should be 1920x1080p 60hz. The TV will then take each frame of that signal and display it 4 times if motion smoothing features are turned off. If they are on, depending on which mode you use, the tv will create new frames that were never there (frame interpolation).
post #2569 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morning5 View Post

Thanks UFO.

Well my concern is about flicker. My LG 47LX9500 has 240hz Scanning Backlight that cannot be turned off (I even went inside Service Menu), and I can clearly see the flicker of it (image feels unnatural to me and artificial)

This Sony has no flicker? like old 60hz lcds?

To activate Scanning Backlight and Black Frame Insertion, do you need to use Impulse Mode in Motion Flow?

There is no flicker on this set unless you turn on backlight scanning. It is not always on. Impulse mode will have very noticeable flicker.
post #2570 of 4321

Does anyone know how to logout of a certain netflix account on this TV?  It may be obvious, but I'm not seeing it.  Also of note, the sony entertainment network server is down for me.

post #2571 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by alluringreality View Post


The description from the disc is not necessarily correct. Typically Sony does not allow a contrast setting that will clip near reference white. The range offered by Sony is likely completely fine, because the limited range may reduce some other possible problems when you go higher than Sony's allowable maximum setting. On my Sony TV I could enter the service menu to go higher and achieve the supposed "ideal", but I don't do that because the higher setting merely tends to cause other problems. Explaining things like WOW does is simple, but it's highly questionable, since it doesn't apply to many TVs. Even if Sony had given you that much range, going with the WOW description would not make the setting "ideal". My suggestion is just to set the contrast/picture control to maximum, since from a calibration standpoint that's probably better than being able to actually follow the WOW instructions.
By default most video players, except computers, output the extra video range. The PS3 is unusual, since it doesn't output the extra range by default. Generally video players output like the PS3's Super White setting out of the box.

 

Haha, thanks I came here to ask the same question.

 

Aspect ratios confuse the heck out of me. Can someone explain them in laymans terms and let me know how to change them on this tv or the xbox one Blu ray player? The arrows on the WOW disc are partially cutoff by the screen on all sides.

 

Awww, I found one pixel not acting like the others :( . Does this actually work? http://www.ehow.com/how_7673278_fix-pixels-lcd-tv.html


Edited by KnoellAlex - 1/1/14 at 3:30pm
post #2572 of 4321
I haven't seen the Netflix/Hulu Plus/Music Unlimited offer discussed. http://discover.store.sony.com/netflix/

I have a question re: this offer. I purchased 3 of the W900's. smile.gif Can I get 3 years of Neflix/Hulu Plus? I don't see how, if someone has figured out how to get multiple years added to the same account for multple set purchases please describe how you did it.
post #2573 of 4321

Had my 3rd replacement on december 31th.

 

Finally we are talking. Zero clouding, no dead pixels, very little "Dirty Screen Effect" (I don't notice it while watching Blu-Rays). Blacks are deeper than the two last sets I had.

 

I will settle with this one.

 

Happy new year everybody !


Fred

post #2574 of 4321
It's my my thirteenth day with the tv and it has now officially "broken in" from it's brand new state. Every thing is so vivid and colorful even when calibrated, this tv pops eye candy out everywhere, especially in hd cable, Xbox, and blu ray... My gameplay has increased in Call of Duty Black ops 2 by 50 percent and it's because of this television. I'm seeing the average opponent about 15 to possibly 45 milliseconds before they see me.
post #2575 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by dardano View Post

Had my 3rd replacement on december 31th.

Finally we are talking. Zero clouding, no dead pixels, very little "Dirty Screen Effect" (I don't notice it while watching Blu-Rays). Blacks are deeper than the two last sets I had.

I will settle with this one.

Happy new year everybody !


Fred

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch321 View Post

It's my my thirteenth day with the tv and it has now officially "broken in" from it's brand new state. Every thing is so vivid and colorful even when calibrated, this tv pops eye candy out everywhere, especially in hd cable, Xbox, and blu ray... My gameplay has increased in Call of Duty Black ops 2 by 50 percent and it's because of this television. I'm seeing the average opponent about 15 to possibly 45 milliseconds before they see me.

Wow very good news, Im happy for you guys smile.gif
post #2576 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by KnoellAlex View Post
 

 

Haha, thanks I came here to ask the same question.

 

Aspect ratios confuse the heck out of me. Can someone explain them in laymans terms and let me know how to change them on this tv or the xbox one Blu ray player? The arrows on the WOW disc are partially cutoff by the screen on all sides.

 

Awww, I found one pixel not acting like the others :( . Does this actually work? http://www.ehow.com/how_7673278_fix-pixels-lcd-tv.html

 

Just curious about which color your bad pixel has trouble with? 

 

I had two sets with a pixel that could not produce anything with red in it, all variations using green and blue were fine though.

post #2577 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by Morning5 View Post


Wow very good news, Im happy for you guys smile.gif

Awesome!

Wish me luck...my replacement is coming in today!
post #2578 of 4321
It took me 3 replacements as well before having a W905 without any dead pixels no clouding no dse and banding very happy after all but it's a shame that it takes so many trades before getting a good set. Sony quality control is poor many sets suffer from dead pixels. Never did I had a dead pixel on a Samsung or Panasonic hdtv.
post #2579 of 4321
I notice that when I turn on my Sony blu ray player, the tv turns on as well. However, when I turn off my blu ray player the tv stays on. For me, it'd be nice for convenience sake if the tv would turn off with the blu ray player. Does anyone know if there is some setting I've missed that could make this happen?
post #2580 of 4321
Quote:
Originally Posted by billmcdougal View Post

I have this horizontal band. It is the main reason I am getting a replacement this week.






Also, I watched The World's End on BluRay on Xbox One the other day. Even when I turned on motionflow and all that jazz, I noticed that the panning, while smooth 90% of the time, had little stutters. It wasn't like my old tv, where a pan would constantly stutter accross the screen. It was like I was getting however many correct non-stuttering frames in a row and then miss a frame. It reminded me of what it sounds like when I read about 24fps being converted to 30fps, if that makes any sense. Could I be doing something wrong?

I just got off the phone with Sony. I'm getting a replacement in 5-7 days. I hope I'm not trading one problem for another.

How does Sony handle the return of defective units?
Certainly they don't use UPS/Fedex...
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