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post #3301 of 4276
Chromecast APIs are built on the DIAL standard which many smart TVs support. So, any DIAL compliant device should work from the cast icon if there's app support. Sony helped develop it.

http://www.dial-multiscreen.org
http://gigaom.com/2013/01/23/dial-open-airplay-competitor/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIscovery_And_Launch

I still prefer the Chromecast to the native smart functions though.
post #3302 of 4276
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Originally Posted by Beermaestro View Post

Current question regards 3D. Started Gravity over the PS3 Media Server to check 3D performance, and it seemed a little flashy (not the correct term) like to low a refresh rate on a PC monitor.

I haven't used the 3d much yet on this TV, however I have experimented a little with the 3d settings.

If I were to guess you have the motionflow set to off. Turning it off will show some flickering. If you turn motion flow on to standard, the flickering should go away entirely (or not perceptive to me at least). If you don't like the smoothness of movement/soap opera effect (like me) I noticed that Movie1 mode's standard motionflow setting does not smooth out the framerate at all, but does indeed get rid of the flickering during 3d, so maybe try that out.
post #3303 of 4276
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Originally Posted by hlwl View Post

I've noticed I can already "cast" YouTube to the TV from my Nexus 5 without even having Chromecast. How is that?

Probably Nexus 5 has miracast support ? If thats the case, then the screen mirroring on W900 will work out-of-the-box, i suppose.
post #3304 of 4276
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Originally Posted by deids View Post

Probably Nexus 5 has miracast support ? If thats the case, then the screen mirroring on W900 will work out-of-the-box, i suppose.

No, as I mentioned above, it's due to DIAL. Miracast is something completely different.
post #3305 of 4276

I've had this set for a little over a week, and I LOVE it! Huge upgrade to my old KDL40V2500. I have a question regarding HDMI ARC/CEC, though:

 

In order to use this feature over HDMI Input 1, do I have to turn anything on, or is it automatically enabled? I'm having an issue with running my cable box (Motorola DCX3501-M) through my receiver (Yamaha V673) to the TV via HDMI. The setup worked fine for the first 5 days or so, but recently the TV started saying there's no HDMI signal. I've searched around online a little, and some users report the issue lies within ARC being enabled on the TV. Is this called "Bravia Sync" on our systems? Would turning this feature off disable ARC?

 

Any help/direction would be greatly appreciated!

post #3306 of 4276
Weird. I've been having the same "no HDMI signal" message with my Motorola DCX3501-M and my 65X850A. I've had my TV since Feb. 1st. and it's been working fine since I got it. Until last Friday anyways. Started out of the blue last Friday morning when I turned everything on. Normally I have everything going through my Yamaha RX-A1010 receiver first, then out to the TV. I even tried hooking up the cable box directly into HDMI 1, and 3, on the back of my TV. Made no difference, still got the no signal message. All of my other equipment worked okay though, games and movies played fine. Cable box to TV is where the problem is. I was able to temporarily fix it by unplugging the cable box power and letting it sit for 5 minutes, then plugging it back in to let it reboot. Next day everything turned on okay and I got picture and sound from my cable box, no problem. I'm pretty sure I have Bravia Sync turned off, but I'll check it again later today.
Edited by Ace of Space - 2/10/14 at 7:54am
post #3307 of 4276

Is it just me or is the Netflix app on this TV horrible?  It's practically unusable to me.  Extremely slow and sluggish, and then on top of that half the categories aren't even there.  For example, go into the Netflix app and then try to find the category for International Films.  It literally isn't even there!  WTF!   

post #3308 of 4276
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Originally Posted by Ace of Space View Post

Weird. I've been having the same "no HDMI signal" message with my Motorola DCX3501-M and my 65X850A. I've had my TV since Feb. 1st. and it's been working fine since I got it. Until last Friday anyways. Started out of the blue last Friday morning when I turned everything on. Normally I have everything going through my Yamaha RX-A1010 receiver first, then out to the TV. I even tried hooking up the cable box directly into HDMI 1, and 3, on the back of my TV. Made no difference, still got the no signal message. All of my other equipment worked okay though, games and movies played fine. Cable box to TV is where the problem is. I was able to temporarily fix it by unplugging the cable box power and letting it sit for 5 minutes, then plugging it back in to let it reboot. Next day everything turned on okay and I got picture and sound from my cable box, no problem. I'm pretty sure I have Bravia Sync turned off, but I'll check it again later today.

I'd reset my cable box as well, and then it'd work for the next several on/offs; then, it'd start acting up again. All my other inputs work fine as well. Did you install the newest firmware update? I wonder if that happened to break some compatibility regarding the cable box to TV HDMI via receiver? I tried switching HDMI inputs on the TV as well but to no avail. As of right now, I have the cable box HDMI going directly into the TV and then an optical cable for audio out to my receiver. Not optimal, as I lose the OSD from the Yamaha v673, but at least it works!

post #3309 of 4276
Uugh, now I'm worried that my problems will start up again after a few on/off cycles. I just did a firmware update on my tv around the same time this started happening. Could be Sony's newest firmware causing this I suspect.
post #3310 of 4276
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Originally Posted by helvetica bold View Post

Use AUTO for everything EXCEPT Xbox 360 or Xbox one, for that manually switch to full.

Oh, really? Do you have to change any settings on the TV?

I have an Xbox One and now a PS4.

If I set Xbox One to FULL, it looks extra dark, like it has crushed blacks.

However "auto" on the ps4 seems the opposite. Everything is kind of light and washed out...no really inky blacks.
post #3311 of 4276
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Originally Posted by kornball View Post

I've had this set for a little over a week, and I LOVE it! Huge upgrade to my old KDL40V2500. I have a question regarding HDMI ARC/CEC, though:

In order to use this feature over HDMI Input 1, do I have to turn anything on, or is it automatically enabled? I'm having an issue with running my cable box (Motorola DCX3501-M) through my receiver (Yamaha V673) to the TV via HDMI. The setup worked fine for the first 5 days or so, but recently the TV started saying there's no HDMI signal. I've searched around online a little, and some users report the issue lies within ARC being enabled on the TV. Is this called "Bravia Sync" on our systems? Would turning this feature off disable ARC?

Any help/direction would be greatly appreciated!

That kdl-40v2500 is a solid TV in itself served this family well for 7 years and still going! But I'm sure the w900 outperforms it.
post #3312 of 4276
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Originally Posted by bull3964 View Post

Chromecast APIs are built on the DIAL standard which many smart TVs support. So, any DIAL compliant device should work from the cast icon if there's app support. Sony helped develop it.

http://www.dial-multiscreen.org
http://gigaom.com/2013/01/23/dial-open-airplay-competitor/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIscovery_And_Launch

I still prefer the Chromecast to the native smart functions though.

I just don't want to buy something that is completely redundant!
post #3313 of 4276
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Originally Posted by billmcdougal View Post

Oh, really? Do you have to change any settings on the TV?

I have an Xbox One and now a PS4.

If I set Xbox One to FULL, it looks extra dark, like it has crushed blacks.

However "auto" on the ps4 seems the opposite. Everything is kind of light and washed out...no really inky blacks.

Check my previous posts in this tread. Ive written it many, many times. biggrin.gif Theres a HDMI glitch on the Xbox One when set to full range you have to manually switch HDMI dynamic range on the W9 to full.
post #3314 of 4276
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Originally Posted by Ace of Space View Post

Uugh, now I'm worried that my problems will start up again after a few on/off cycles. I just did a firmware update on my tv around the same time this started happening. Could be Sony's newest firmware causing this I suspect.

I chatted online with a Sony customer service rep tonight. She suggested we try factory resetting our TVs. To do this, turn on the TV and let it boot up completely. Then, hold the "up arrow" on the remote and press the power button on the TV set itself. Their rep said this will fix the issue (I, however, am skeptical).

 

Anyone know what all is cleared by factory resetting? Will I have to fine tune my picture settings again?


Edited by kornball - 2/10/14 at 8:11pm
post #3315 of 4276
Yes you will have to re do it all
post #3316 of 4276
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Originally Posted by helvetica bold View Post

Theres a HDMI glitch on the Xbox One when set to full range you have to manually switch HDMI dynamic range on the W9 to full.
Not sure if it should be called "glitch", but rather "normal behaviour". To my knowledge there is no standardised way for a device to signal if it is using full- or limited-RGB. My former TVs (LG, Samsung) didn't even have an "Auto" setting for HDMI input -- guess why? Hence, when I saw the Auto feature on the W9, my 1st thought was "This must be a joke? That can't work!"
post #3317 of 4276

KDL 55W900A Internet Browser...Is this feature worthless? Any way to change the browser? or the home page to say Google? So far all I've succeeded in doing is crashing the set. Any workarounds or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

post #3318 of 4276
After a very sad and unfortunate end to my KDL-52W3000, I had a day to really research and dig into what I wanted as a replacement... I was looking into size/quality/value and have to give a huge thanks to the forum for all the research so freely shared. Especially the price match info, I picked up my 900a at BB last night for $1599 biggrin.gif Given our room I was very interested in going for a 65" and had a few moments of the wife questioning why we were spending an extra $500 for a smaller TV... but she came with me. Even though it was a standard store without the Magnolia area, We were able to stand about 50' away and see the vast expanse of choices in one panoramic view... and even with the harsh lighting and severely out of calibration demo modes only a handful of TVs stood out, with sharp, engaging pictures. Our latest purchase was one of them... most of the others were 4Ks. Her resistance began to soften... when we walked up to inspect the TVs more closely I was happily able to point out the clarity of details, smooth gradation, and quite simply the beauty of the picture as compared to all other nearby screens... including some that were substantially more expensive. The deal was sealed more quickly than any other like purchase.

We loaded up the box in the back of our vehicle, eager to see our new viewing portal in our home - but alas we needed to feed our children... After eating dinner, we made it home and we all gathered around for the unboxing. Everything looked to be in order and I began pulling out the accessories and blocks of foam. Then I pulled out the TV itself, one of our daughters immediately commented on the quartz edge and how it shimmered blue-green. I quickly swapped out the wall mount hardware and made my connections... OTA Coax, 1 HDMI, and the power. I did notice that the outer casing in the back had a few flex points, almost like a slight air bubble that would shift around when touched, anyone else notice this? I couldn't spot any cracks, dents or imperfections in the case edges so I ignored it and moved on. I thought about running a hardwire LAN drop, but I use the PS3 through the Onkyo for nearly everything, so I opted to just use the WiFi for now. It was finally up on the wall and the depth was so much less and the bezel so much thinner, that it felt like it took up less real estate even though we moved up an additional 3 inches. I used a microfiber cloth to clean up any errant fingerprints and manufacturing film and the Triluminous coating caught the attention of my daughters, who delighted in seeing the rainbows around any lights reflecting on the screen.... I was a little nervous about what that meant for actual viewing.

I powered up the newest member of our HT family and after a brief setup process seeing the first images on the screen. Without any adjustments I thought my eyes had been upgraded - I really didn't expect that much of a difference - I did notice a few things that have been covered in this thread that I'm sure will resolve once I turn adjust the eco and motion settings. Since it was getting late I popped open Netflix, entered in my account details, and poked around for something. With my wife eagerly awaiting the greatness I had promised I popped on S2E1 of Once Upon A Time and we watched the first few minutes. When Neal (Michael Raymond-James) went into his apartment my wife commented on how she felt like she was in the room with him - like this was really a window into another world we could reach into. To put this into perspective, when I first purchased the 52W3000 - moving up from a 480p Toshiba CRT - she said she could not really see the difference between the HD and SD sources. Eventually her eyes adjusted and she would make comments about the poor PQ whenever an SD broadcast was being shown, but for her to immediately recognize how immersive this set is can only testify to how incredible the picture is. As we continued watching I was seeing details I had never previously noticed, like dust particles, and slight streaks of drizzle that added so much to the scene, but faded into obscurity in the past. I told my wife I had to rewatch EVERYTHING to find out what all I had missed. Granted I have had very little viewing time and played only with a tiny amount of 3d material available on YouTube, but my first impressions are that I am much happier with this purchase than I was with my 52W3000 (which cost more at the time) and know that my entire family will get tremendous enjoyment, while my nit-picky engineer's eye will be quite satisfied.
Edited by DadOf5 - 2/11/14 at 9:48am
post #3319 of 4276
Can't decide if I should play the TV lottery again or stand pat with my current set.
Seems like there is significantly more clouding in black screens and there also seems to be a red tint in black screens as well.
Then again, I don't have any dead pixels.
Maybe I was just spoiled from using Plasma and this is how all LCDs are?
post #3320 of 4276
I am in the market for a new LED tv. I'm rather new to Avs but have really enjoyed reading so far.

I'm looking for a tv to mostly watch live sports and some blu ray. TV is about 12-15 ft from couch. I'm thinking 60 inches is what I need. A few thoughts I have.

1. The 60 inch P Series Vizio 4K set looks really nice. I know it won't be out for a few months but I may be willing to wait cuz of 1800 price value and 4k. I know there's not much 4k content available now but feel like we are moving that way.

2. 55 inch Sony w900a. Before the p series was announced, I really liked this set. Now it's down to $1600 which is a plus. Just a little concerned with being too small and no 4k. Have heard great things about PQ though.

3 Open to other ideas as well!

Budget: $1800

Thanks in advance for the help!

T
post #3321 of 4276
Anyone went from a (recent) plasma to this? Very much considering to swap my gt60. Main reasons are the smearing I see on moving scenes and the fear of ir. But I am worried about clouding and black levels in less bright conditions. Anyone?
post #3322 of 4276
I came from a 55ST50.

The thing that sticks out most to me is the viewing angles. That's pretty much it though. Under my normal viewing conditions, there's not a significant difference in black levels. The local dimming isn't any more distracting than ABL and any uniformity issues I do see on this TV were countered by different but just as frequent quirks on the ST50.

It might be possible to measure a drop in motion resolution compared to my ST50, but it's not something that stands out to me. For the most part, I watch 24fps sourced material anyways (movies, TV dramas, single cam comedies) so it's not like motion resolution of the source is all that high to begin with.

Motion processing, on the other hand, is far superior on the W900A. My 55ST50 didn't have native handling of 24fps based material being a 60hz display. So, the W900A completely trumps it in handling of motion from blu-ray as it is completely judder free but without SOE. Similarly, Sony's motionflow true cinema is capable of reconstructing correct 24fps cadence from 720p30 and 1080i60 CATV sources without motion interpolation which is something I don't think even the 96hz Panasonic plasmas can do.
post #3323 of 4276
Do you notice any backlights shining through when viewing movies with black bars bottom/top? That would annoy me immensely. Also, when do viewing angles become problematic? My daughter tends to watch tv from a pretty extreme angle (about 60°), she just likes to sit close to the tv like that.
post #3324 of 4276
From dead on, the top and bottom bars are inky black. Just as much, if not more so, than my ST50.

The black level rises as you move off center. There's no real color distortion, just sort of a washing out. It does happen pretty quickly (one of the downsides to PVA technology, but PVA's strong point is better absolute black level). So, as you move off center, you may notice some clouding in the black bar area in the corners.

There's no color inversion nor is the TV hard to see, it just washes out as you move off axis. In a daylight bright room, the effect isn't nearly as pronounced.
post #3325 of 4276
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Originally Posted by DadOf5 View Post

After a very sad and unfortunate end to my KDL-52W3000, I had a day to really research and dig into what I wanted as a replacement... I was looking into size/quality/value and have to give a huge thanks to the forum for all the research so freely shared. Especially the price match info, I picked up my 900a at BB last night for $1599 biggrin.gif Given our room I was very interested in going for a 65" and had a few moments of the wife questioning why we were spending an extra $500 for a smaller TV... but she came with me. Even though it was a standard store without the Magnolia area, We were able to stand about 50' away and see the vast expanse of choices in one panoramic view... and even with the harsh lighting and severely out of calibration demo modes only a handful of TVs stood out, with sharp, engaging pictures. Our latest purchase was one of them... most of the others were 4Ks. Her resistance began to soften... when we walked up to inspect the TVs more closely I was happily able to point out the clarity of details, smooth gradation, and quite simply the beauty of the picture as compared to all other nearby screens... including some that were substantially more expensive. The deal was sealed more quickly than any other like purchase.

Whose price was at $1599 that Best buy PM'ed?
post #3326 of 4276
http://www.jr.com/sony/pe/SON_KDL55W900A/

The price is good through march 1st. If they give you any grief point out that there are no restrictions listed in the ucmf field on the price match screen...
post #3327 of 4276
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Originally Posted by DadOf5 View Post

http://www.jr.com/sony/pe/SON_KDL55W900A/

The price is good through march 1st. If they give you any grief point out that there are no restrictions listed in the ucmf field on the price match screen...

Thanks for the info. Anyone know if I can price match this online with Best Buy or would it only work in store?
post #3328 of 4276
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Originally Posted by DomLando View Post

Thanks for the info. Anyone know if I can price match this online with Best Buy or would it only work in store?

I did it in store (and might pick up a 2nd if I can bring myself to go all in on LCD) all you have to do is point out that they are in the Sony Dealer Network and you should be good to go.
post #3329 of 4276
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Originally Posted by zturner0826 View Post
 

Is it just me or is the Netflix app on this TV horrible?  It's practically unusable to me.  Extremely slow and sluggish, and then on top of that half the categories aren't even there.  For example, go into the Netflix app and then try to find the category for International Films.  It literally isn't even there!  WTF!   

 

That's right. The Netflix app is horrible is this TV. However, I can't complain about the picture quality so it would be better if you try netflix on another device. I use PS3 to stream movie.

post #3330 of 4276
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Originally Posted by downriver5 View Post

KDL 55W900A Internet Browser...Is this feature worthless? Any way to change the browser? or the home page to say Google? So far all I've succeeded in doing is crashing the set. Any workarounds or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

I had problems with the Sony store website locking up the TV. The trick was to quickly press “options” and then stop the website from loading further before it locked up the TV. Then you could select the default homepage option and change it to something else. Google in my case. Since then it’s been fine.
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