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post #691 of 4369
Buy her a Slingbox and get the Sony. Then she can watch TV anywhere in the house and away from the house.
post #692 of 4369
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Originally Posted by vaxick View Post

Buy her a Slingbox and get the Sony. Then she can watch TV anywhere in the house and away from the house.

Ooh I forgot about slingbox! Great call.

Thanks a ton.
post #693 of 4369
Just curious if anyone is using xvYCC sourced material and if it looks noticeably better on the KDL 900. If yes, are you buying Blu-Rays or getting it from another source like streaming? Thank you.
post #694 of 4369
Am I correct in thinking that the W900a is the TV that Sony used at E3 to demo all their games on. I'm sure I read that somewhere, or have I just made that up? confused.gif
post #695 of 4369
Just pulled the trigger today. Expect delivery some time this week.

Can someone explain the HDMI PC port?
Why do they designate one in particular for PC?
Is there a issue with hooking up a PC to the other HDMI ports (i need to hook up 2 pc's)?
Can you PIP (whatever they call it now)?


thanks
post #696 of 4369
Just thought id post my experience for anyone on the fence about getting one of these fine sets. I had been looking to get a lcd-led set for the main purpose of gaming. My main focus was low input lag, but I was not going to settle for sub par picture quality. I tried out the Panasonic DT50, Samsung F7100, LG LA7400, and ended up with the Sony w802a. The sony beat all the mentioned sets by a good stretch. My first one was not great, it had bad bleeding and looked really cloudy. The second one looked amazing and I was completely satisfied with it. Input lag was non-existant and the picture in game mode was not compromised. I just saw today that the price had been cut significantly on the w900a and I couldn't pass it up. I went down today and traded the w802a plus some cash for the last w900a the store I went to had and....WOW....is all I can say. If you want deep blacks (for an lcd) and bold, sharp colors, this set is unmatched. Again no noticeable input lag, and I am extremely sensitive to it. I compared it to the F8000 (which has horrible input lag, not good for gaming) and sony really knows what they are doing with edge-lit sets. I have no light bleed or flash-lighting and the picture is as uniform as you can get. While I was perfectly happy with the w802a, the w900a really shows you what a decent VA panel and sony engineering can do. cool.gif
post #697 of 4369
Some gaming pics:




post #698 of 4369
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Originally Posted by AGuy01 View Post

I'm not sure if the W900A would be much better. LCDs just have poor motion resolution without features like Motionflow. If you don't like it and if enabling Motionflow introduces too much input lag, you may want to consider a fast plasma TV.

I'm trying to find the best HDTV under 1600 to use as a second display used primarily for gaming and I'm leaning toward plasma because they offer a more blur-free image or Sony's W802A.

Don't bother getting a plasma for games. Phosphor Trails, and the usual inability to support 4:4:4 completely defeat the point for games.



Also: Has anyone tested this set for 4:4:4 compatibility over HDMI from a PC?


http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/sony-kdl55w905a-201305172987.htm


This review mentions it can in GAME or GRAPHICS mode, (Is there no Input labeling, such as PC that may or may not work too?)



It also mentions some mild pillars on the left and right edges of the screen. And I can seem to see them I think in the pictures that have been posted. Has anyone noticed this as an issue when viewing the TV?




I wish this set was available in a smaller size as well
Edited by MrBonk - 6/24/13 at 5:25am
post #699 of 4369
UFO, thanks for the pics! What games settings are you using?
post #700 of 4369
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Originally Posted by *UFO* View Post

Some gaming pics:





Thanks for the pics. Looks decent although it does seem like the game mode over saturates the colors. Those greens are way over saturated.
post #701 of 4369
I just have"live color" on high, which really makes colors pop biggrin.gif
post #702 of 4369
is the price cut on this TV permanent? it's going to be a few months before I can get one and I'd hate to see it go back up to the original price.
post #703 of 4369
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Originally Posted by kaibrok View Post

is the price cut on this TV permanent? it's going to be a few months before I can get one and I'd hate to see it go back up to the original price.

I seriously doubt it's going to go back up, in fact I'd guess it will go down another $100 or two.
post #704 of 4369
This model looks great for gaming! Might have to pick one up if the price drops a little more. smile.gif

Have any of you tried motionflow setting "impulse" with Game mode/scene select? Seems like this should improve motion resolution, but does it?
post #705 of 4369
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Originally Posted by rgb32 View Post

This model looks great for gaming! Might have to pick one up if the price drops a little more. smile.gif

Have any of you tried motionflow setting "impulse" with Game mode/scene select? Seems like this should improve motion resolution, but does it?

I have tried to set the motionflow to impulse. For me the flicker tears my eyes away. I get hedache and its generally annoying to look at. Gaming on this TV on Game-Original and getting used to Warm 2, is the definitive best for me.

Edit: I use these setting for gaming:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-tvs/1786198-sony-kdl-40w905a-reviewers-recommended-best-settings.html

Except that i have picture mode in Game-Original and have Motionflow set to off.
Edited by Jurge92 - 6/25/13 at 10:35am
post #706 of 4369
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Originally Posted by *UFO* View Post

Just thought id post my experience for anyone on the fence about getting one of these fine sets. I had been looking to get a lcd-led set for the main purpose of gaming. My main focus was low input lag, but I was not going to settle for sub par picture quality. I tried out the Panasonic DT50, Samsung F7100, LG LA7400, and ended up with the Sony w802a. The sony beat all the mentioned sets by a good stretch. My first one was not great, it had bad bleeding and looked really cloudy. The second one looked amazing and I was completely satisfied with it. Input lag was non-existant and the picture in game mode was not compromised. I just saw today that the price had been cut significantly on the w900a and I couldn't pass it up. I went down today and traded the w802a plus some cash for the last w900a the store I went to had and....WOW....is all I can say. If you want deep blacks (for an lcd) and bold, sharp colors, this set is unmatched. Again no noticeable input lag, and I am extremely sensitive to it. I compared it to the F8000 (which has horrible input lag, not good for gaming) and sony really knows what they are doing with edge-lit sets. I have no light bleed or flash-lighting and the picture is as uniform as you can get. While I was perfectly happy with the w802a, the w900a really shows you what a decent VA panel and sony engineering can do. cool.gif
So you had both the F8000 and now the W900a. Can you tell me your opinion on the viewing angles of both? Are those of the F8000 much better?
post #707 of 4369
I only compared the F8000 to the w900a in the store. They were side by side and I did a quick calibration on both of them. Viewing angles were similar on both of them to me. They will both wash out at side viewing angles. If you want a set for side viewing that does not wash out, your going to have to take a look at plasma. Every led-lcd that I looked at washed out at extreme angles. I think it has to do more with the LED back lighting then the panels because even the IPS models did it.
post #708 of 4369
Does anyone know the difference between game-standard and game-original?
post #709 of 4369
A few questions, perhaps more general than W900A related but here goes:

- When setting Game vs Cinema vs whatever else, are there any differences in these modes ASIDE from what you can change in the menu? Meaning, if I use the same settings in Cinema as I go in Game am I getting the same picture or is there something else going on that we can't adjust?

- Any explanation on why Warm 2 (and Warm 1) are preferred by videophiles? As far as I can tell, most games and software are created using the equivalent of neutral... so is this mainly for watching movies and TV?

- What does everyone generally set their backlight to on this set? I know that I prefer a brighter image than most anyone else here but at night I have it at 6 (with all brightness limiters/adjusters/etc off)
post #710 of 4369
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Originally Posted by taoofjord View Post

A few questions, perhaps more general than W900A related but here goes:

- When setting Game vs Cinema vs whatever else, are there any differences in these modes ASIDE from what you can change in the menu? Meaning, if I use the same settings in Cinema as I go in Game am I getting the same picture or is there something else going on that we can't adjust?

- Any explanation on why Warm 2 (and Warm 1) are preferred by videophiles? As far as I can tell, most games and software are created using the equivalent of neutral... so is this mainly for watching movies and TV?

- What does everyone generally set their backlight to on this set? I know that I prefer a brighter image than most anyone else here but at night I have it at 6 (with all brightness limiters/adjusters/etc off)

i believe the big differences between game and cinema would be the gamma–0 for gaming (2.2) and -2 for cinema (2.4). You can adjust both settings however you are limited w/ motionflow options in gaming mode.
The default gaming setting kills most of the video processing in favor of a maxed out contrast.
post #711 of 4369
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Originally Posted by helvetica bold View Post

i believe the big differences between game and cinema would be the gamma–0 for gaming (2.2) and -2 for cinema (2.4). You can adjust both settings however you are limited w/ motionflow options in gaming mode.
The default gaming setting kills most of the video processing in favor of a maxed out contrast.

So no matter what you do with the settings while in Game Mode you can't make that "maxed out contrast" the same as it is in Cinema without switching to Cinema?
post #712 of 4369
I managed to get a demo of the W9 at my local store today. I took my Xbox 360 with me (they already had a PS3 hooked up to it) and tried out a selection of games for 45 mins or so. I specifically went to compare it to my current HX850 in terms of gaming.

The main differences between the HX850 and W9 is the improved input lag and more colorful image. Everything else including motion blur/ghosting was pretty much the same and I couldn't tell much difference (if any) between the two TVs.

Input lag on the W9 was superb, it was almost like being back on a CRT again, black levels again were great and I had a good look at viewing angles and they are IMO very good, there is a little drop of in contrast but nothing like some reviews made in out to be. I also tried the impulse setting when gaming and there is a big drop in brightness, input lag is still great, this mode got rid of all blurring but really showed up the double imaging of 30FPS games (I preferred the look when motionflow was off). The impulse mode on the W9 seamed to darken the picture more than on my HX850, but there seems to be less flicker on the W9. Some people may like it (especially for 60fps games) but for me it would cause me too much eye strain. Nice option to have though.

So am I going to swap it for my HX850? No, I am more than happy with the input lag on mine and since the W9 performed very similar in terms of gaming motion, a little more color is not going to make me swap.

I agree with everyone else though, the W9 is an awesome gaming TV!
post #713 of 4369
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Originally Posted by taoofjord View Post

So no matter what you do with the settings while in Game Mode you can't make that "maxed out contrast" the same as it is in Cinema without switching to Cinema?

sorry if I wasn't clear. You can change the game mode to match the same settings as cinema.
I was just explaining how the TV comes preset.
I keep all the processing off, no Motionflow etc but keep everything else the same as cinema.
You can even change the gamma in game mode..
The only limit is the Motionflow options in game mode, otherwise you can chance whatever you want.
post #714 of 4369
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Originally Posted by taoofjord View Post

A few questions, perhaps more general than W900A related but here goes:

- When setting Game vs Cinema vs whatever else, are there any differences in these modes ASIDE from what you can change in the menu? Meaning, if I use the same settings in Cinema as I go in Game am I getting the same picture or is there something else going on that we can't adjust?

- Any explanation on why Warm 2 (and Warm 1) are preferred by videophiles? As far as I can tell, most games and software are created using the equivalent of neutral... so is this mainly for watching movies and TV?

On the X9 picture modes are calibrated differently (they look different even with same settings). W900 probably the same.

Warm 2 is considered the most natural.
post #715 of 4369
those w/ xbox's, are you using RGB / Expanded? When I have this set the Xbox crushes blacks.
I might try 709 and see if that works. If not I'll keep it set to standard.
post #716 of 4369
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Originally Posted by electrofascist View Post

On the X9 picture modes are calibrated differently (they look different even with same settings). W900 probably the same.

Warm 2 is considered the most natural.


Thanks. I'll have to play around with customizing the different scene selects then.

Regarding Warm 2... could you elaborate a little more? What do you mean by "natural"? And how does this all fit in with video games and when using the TV as a computer monitor?
post #717 of 4369
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Originally Posted by taoofjord View Post

Thanks. I'll have to play around with customizing the different scene selects then.

Regarding Warm 2... could you elaborate a little more? What do you mean by "natural"? And how does this all fit in with video games and when using the TV as a computer monitor?

It has to do with color temperature. Here's an explanation:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20064010-1/what-is-tv-color-temperature-and-why-does-it-matter/
post #718 of 4369
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Originally Posted by taoofjord View Post

Thanks. I'll have to play around with customizing the different scene selects then.

Regarding Warm 2... could you elaborate a little more? What do you mean by "natural"? And how does this all fit in with video games and when using the TV as a computer monitor?

Just for reference, I like Warm 1 on my sets. Looks more natural to me. Warm 2, well, the whites just have too much red in them.
post #719 of 4369
Wow, this thread came to a screeching halt!eek.gif
post #720 of 4369
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Originally Posted by electrofascist View Post

Wow, this thread came to a screeching halt!eek.gif
Everyones too busy watching their W900s LOL
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