Originally Posted by MFLUGSTA
Do you guys that have heard both the 212 and 228 Noesis feel that they are voiced pretty similarly? The reason I ask is that while considering a 228 LCR set, I got to wondering if my system, which will be nearly 100% for movies, would benefit from having a 212 as the center channel and 228's for left and right. Are the woofers that Jeff uses sourced from the same company for both models? I would assume that since both compression drivers are BMS that the treble would be seamless enough in this configuration.
Thanks is advance for any help. I've really enjoyed reading through all of the comparisons from you guys and wish I was closer geographically so I could join in the fun!
They are voiced similarly IMO. Still for the the sound of the 212's compression driver... I can't put it into words. It's the only speaker I've ever heard where the highs sound "powerful", that's probably not the right word for it. The best thing I can say about it is when I turn on the system I have a real hard time turning it off. The 212's just do it for me, I think even more than the other KC guys. It was clear to me yesterday that I thought that there was a wider gap between the 228's and the 212's than they did IMO.
The 228's, like I said though, are similar - and I bet for movies your idea would work however I have a feeling the bigger variable will be if you have an AT screen and can place the center vertical. I'm too afraid to try it because I know I'm going to like a vertical center so much that I'm going to want to get going on a false wall right away and I don't want to mess with that right now.
I don't know if the woofers are the same company or not.
How big is your room? I ask because my room is 17 wide 23 deep and the 228's filled it with no problem. With all this praise I'm giving the 212's aside, if I were 100 percent movies I would buy the 228's - at least I'm pretty sure I would. We didn't watch a whole lot of clips, as usual music dominated the day.
I will say this though, we didn't go nuts with the volume like we (errrr I) usually do so I don't know how the 228's handle crazy db levels that the 212's laugh at. And since I love what the 212's do for music so much, I dont' regret for a second buying the big boys. Someone asked me Sat. if I have any regrets about spending this much on my front 3 and my answer is no without hesitation but most of that is due to the fact that I knew going in that I would listen to music A TON with these. Hell, a few years ago when I had Axioms that I could stand but couldn't change due to financial reasons I STILL listened to music all the time on them. Ha, I spent most of my time trying to tweak to get them sounding good, but still... I was listening. My first love (still is ) was simply the music itself and over the years it's morphed into a love of the gear as well, or at least a love of the search for the right gear.
So I knew I would get my money's worth over the years. I'm never giving these speakers up until I find something better and I just don't know if that's going to happen. I used to feel motivated to demo speakers because I wanted to find that perfect for me sound that I loved, well now that I have that I still want to demo speakers but now it's just because I like this hobby and it's fun hearing new gear. Now, if I stumble upon something I like better and can afford it, I'll be all over it but that's not the motivation anymore.
Ok, enough rambling. I don't think there was an answer to your question in any of that incoherent mess of a reply. I'm reminded of the scene in Billy Madison... "we are all dumber for hearing your answer and may god have mercy on your soul."