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post #31 of 115
Please help me out. Saw the movie skyfall walk out trying to figure out was this film a reboot of a reboot? It seems to suggest that the movie casino Royale and quantum of solace didn't happen or did they? Help me out here okay I must have missed something.
post #32 of 115
Ralph...DITTO! an easy 100 as SKYFALL is arguably the sharpest, most detailed bluray ever. The blacks and shadow details were second to none. Fleshtones, color palet, depth, realism and textures......ah...a tour de force blu ray!

THE DEMO disc of the year.
post #33 of 115
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Excellent review! I watched SKyfall today. In many ways it was the best Bond of all. Because it revealed very real consequences. And told us much more about Bond, M and the entire storyline. Ian Fleming would have liked this Bond bestof all IMO. I own all of the Daniel Craig Bonds on Blu-Ray. But surprisingly...none of the others. Sean Connery was my favorite Bond before Craig. But Craig carries more mystery in his portrayal of the character IMO. I like him because he presents Bond as gritty, tough, vulnerable and ruthless. Finally...I like it that the Daniel Craig Bonds lowball the comedy and focus on the Spy sttorytelling. That is a much more compelling way to integrate the action with the characters IMO. The Craig sagas seem much more like real spy movies versus spy comedy in a chain of light entertainment. For the record...I thought Sir Roger Moore's Bonds were the worse...by a huge margin.


I'm 32 years old and I got the Bond set for my birthday in October. I've been slowly working my way through looking at the history of bond and trying very hard not to put 2013 expactions on 50 year old movies. While I agree Roger Moore had some embarassing moments during his bond sets ie. Moonraker was awful the worst Bond movie by far and playing a clown in Octopussy wasn't his best moment either lol. He had two of the better bond movies in "Live and Let Die" and "The Spy Who Loved Me" (not to mention some unique villians in his bond). He did more bond movies then anyone ( he did 7) and with that many movies your bond to have some duds.

Even the great Sean Connery had a bad one Diamonds are Forever he was showing a little age and was heavier set then in his previous bonds (I'm glad it was his last film) and Thunderbal was an underwater version of Moonraker lol. Just my opinion, one from someone who didn't grow up completely with bond francise. I started with License to Kill, Which I thought was pretty good. Timothy daulton and Daniel Craig shere some simularities with their Bond

Ralph, I appologize in advance for my response to this. I know this really isn't the thread for this typic.
post #34 of 115
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Please help me out. Saw the movie skyfall walk out trying to figure out was this film a reboot of a reboot? It seems to suggest that the movie casino Royale and quantum of solace didn't happen or did they? Help me out here okay I must have missed something.

It is easy to understand why you may think of this as a "reboot of a reboot", some of the timelines seem out of sync. However, the film references many other previous films. Regarding "Casino Royale", James Bond (in Skyfall) takes out the "original" Aston Martin which he won in a poker game in CR. Also, of paticular note, Casino Royale had to have happened, as Bond has his "00" status, which he earned in Casino Royale.

Overall, I thought the film's technical qualities were excellent. However, as a movie, I found it very "campy" and disappointing. The "tributes", or throwbacks to classic Bond films were done poorly IMO. I felt the "humanizing" of Bond, attempted through the story of "Bond getting old" was also poorly done.

For all the hype of this movie, I was very disappointed. I give it a 5 out of 10.
post #35 of 115
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Originally Posted by Warwick8 View Post

Please help me out. Saw the movie skyfall walk out trying to figure out was this film a reboot of a reboot? It seems to suggest that the movie casino Royale and quantum of solace didn't happen or did they? Help me out here okay I must have missed something.


I think that quatom of solance was the "part two" of casino royale.. It kinda ended that set, Skyfall stands as a "new set" or on it's own... But I haven't been able to to re-watch those three movies for sometime now maybe someone who's seen them recently can give you a better answer.

They've done it before in the bond francise with "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" and "Diamonds are Forever" where they kind of complete the first movie with the second.
post #36 of 115
You guys are killing me! Picked it up Friday but things just didn't work out to allow time for me to watch Skyfall yet and I probably won't be able to do so (uninterrupted) until Wednesday. Next time guys, call spoiler alert before you say "it's the greatest demo disc in the universe" biggrin.gif
post #37 of 115
I had an out of town guest and I demastrated my theater with this DVD. Between a new projector bulb and the quality of this movie, my guest was blown away. He has been thinking about putting in a home theater in his house and after his experience in my theater, he's starting his project.

I will enjoy watching this DVD over and over.

Don
post #38 of 115
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I had an out of town guest and I demastrated my theater with this DVD. Between a new projector bulb and the quality of this movie, my guest was blown away. He has been thinking about putting in a home theater in his house and after his experience in my theater, he's starting his project.

I will enjoy watching this DVD over and over.

Don

I hope you alerted him that this blu ray is one of the absolute best transfers on the format. I hope he is not expecting everything to look like Skyfall! tongue.gif
post #39 of 115
The nighttime fight in Shanghai was one of the most visually awesome scenes ever. Lots of contrast displayed on my Sony VW95ES projector. There were some couch shaking explosions as well.
The plot was somewhat weak, however. My wife was second-guessing the intelligence and strategic planning of 007 at the end. A James Bond film shouldn't end with my wife repeatedly calling him "stupid."
post #40 of 115
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The nighttime fight in Shanghai was one of the most visually awesome scenes ever. Lots of contrast displayed on my Sony VW95ES projector. There were some couch shaking explosions as well.
The plot was somewhat weak, however. My wife was second-guessing the intelligence and strategic planning of 007 at the end. A James Bond film shouldn't end with my wife repeatedly calling him "stupid."

Talk about varying perspectives. My fiance' doesn't want to watch the BD with me because she felt Bordem's character was so disturbing rivaling that of Dark Knight's Joker. But "stupid" never entered any of her responses and she's the type of person that analyzes everything and presses to figure it all out and make sense of it all within the first 30 mins. Regardless, you got a gal that will sit down and watch Bond with you. I don't call that stupid. I call it cool! cool.gif
post #41 of 115
Thanks Ralph, Waiting for the steel book i ordered to arrive from the UK. I am totally going to enjoy this.
post #42 of 115
Hi

Thanks for the observation that the disc is +5db hot. What impact does that have for sound quality and why is it bad for the who have Audessey Dynamic EQ? and how would you counter that, i.e. what settings would you change when watching Skyfall?

Thanks
post #43 of 115
Thanks for the review Ralph. I watched this last night with my wife and I really agree about the picture and sound quality. It looked and sounded fantastic. I'm in the minority though in that neither my wife nor I really liked the movie much.

I see lots of you feel the new grittier Bond is a good thing but to me Craig lacks much of what I always liked about Bond. That, yes, he could hold his own in a fight, but he could be right at home at the opera as well. Craig looks out of place in a tuxedo, and is not credible and mostly silent around beautiful women.

I didn't really get interested much in the plot either which is this guy wants to kill M. I think this sort of Bond seems more like a typical action film which is OK but not a genre I usually care for.

Dave
post #44 of 115
Very excited about this movie, thanks for the great review!
post #45 of 115
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Thanks for the observation that the disc is +5db hot. What impact does that have for sound quality and why is it bad for the who have Audessey Dynamic EQ? and how would you counter that, i.e. what settings would you change when watching Skyfall?

Audyssey DEQ boosts bass and makes its other changes based on the master volume setting. If a track is 5dB hot you'll turn the master volume down by 5dB to compensate, and that will cause DEQ to boost more than it should. I've seen posts in the other Skyfall thread where people preferred DEQ off for this movie, or they set the Audyssey Reference Level Offset to 5 or 10dB. You'll have to experiment to see which you prefer.
post #46 of 115
Reference PQ but not even close to reference SQ. Still good SQ but nothing to write home about.
post #47 of 115
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Talk about varying perspectives. My fiance' doesn't want to watch the BD with me because she felt Bordem's character was so disturbing rivaling that of Dark Knight's Joker. But "stupid" never entered any of her responses and she's the type of person that analyzes everything and presses to figure it all out and make sense of it all within the first 30 mins. Regardless, you got a gal that will sit down and watch Bond with you. I don't call that stupid. I call it cool! cool.gif

I second that!

Looking forward to my BD copy, which I'm sorry to say I won't be getting till next month. Glad to hear you liked it that much Ralph! Thanks! Saw it at the movies and have been waiting to add this to the collection. As for pt 24? Bring it on! cool.gif
post #48 of 115
My anticipation is only mounting in hopes that I'll actually get the time tomorrow night to view Skyfall. It's just now sinking in that Ralph's video rating for Skyfall is, I believe, higher than any other movie I own (that's not animated). And considering there's not a lot of CGI in this movie (I don't think, but they're so good at it these days who knows) that's really saying something about the PQ of this film.
post #49 of 115
Nice review, Ralph. Totally agree with your assessment of the film. This has become my hands-down favorite Bond reboot since Sean Connery. Although, I initially had my doubts about Craig as Bond, I think with this film, he has solidly taken command of the character and made Bond a relevant spy for the 21st century. In this film, you see a more "human" Bond character with a cynical edge often questioning his role as a government black op and whether he can still take the physical and mental punishments of the job.

Technically, this is a stunning film presentation - easily the best I've seen a live action film on BD. Colors are rich and saturated where needed and detail is precise. The audio quality is really well thought out with sounds coming at you from all directions. A couple of times during the motorcycle chase scene, it felt like the motorcycle was coming up past my shoulder as they whizzed into frame. Although some fans have criticized the length of the film, I found myself mesmerized from beginning to end and this after seeing it in an IMAX theater! You need this film in your collection to remind yourself just how good the home theater experience can get when it's done right.
Edited by elkabong16 - 2/19/13 at 9:28am
post #50 of 115
Best Bond film since Sean Connery held the reins. Excellent, excellent BD and film!
post #51 of 115

98 that's the highest! Is the sound better than Prometheus!  DTSMA7.1 ?  Talk about reference sound :)

post #52 of 115
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I originally thought it was silly that Deakins decided to use the Alexa to film this when there was the Red Epic available. I thought it would look eh on the big screen but damn was I wrong! This film looks AWESOME !

Arri is a better camera than Red Epic imo. It has a film look to it. Which is huge for me since I prefer film over digital. The Red camera is too digital looking and clean. Flat with no depth. Look at the Social Network; it had no detail and dementionality at all. Now look at a movie like In Time. It looks like it was shot on film. And now so does Skyfall.
post #53 of 115
I was eagerly anticipating this review from Ralph and can't wait to throw this on for the Saturday night feature.
post #54 of 115
Tried watching my BD copy of Skyfall tonight, but the disc kept freezing up every few minutes, then would play fine, and then freeze up again at the midway point of the movie. I ended up switching to the DVD copy and it played fine. Anybody else had any issues. I may have to see if my Oppo player has the latest firmware update. I watched several BD over the last couple of nights with no issues, so I am thinking it could be a bad transfer.
post #55 of 115
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Arri is a better camera than Red Epic imo. It has a film look to it. Which is huge for me since I prefer film over digital. The Red camera is too digital looking and clean. Flat with no depth. Look at the Social Network; it had no detail and dementionality at all. Now look at a movie like In Time. It looks like it was shot on film. And now so does Skyfall.

Been watching the other films that were filmed with the Alexas and I must agree. Prometheus though did look pretty good which was filmed with an epic.
post #56 of 115
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Originally Posted by Matts View Post

Tried watching my BD copy of Skyfall tonight, but the disc kept freezing up every few minutes, then would play fine, and then freeze up again at the midway point of the movie. I ended up switching to the DVD copy and it played fine. Anybody else had any issues. I may have to see if my Oppo player has the latest firmware update. I watched several BD over the last couple of nights with no issues, so I am thinking it could be a bad transfer.

I read on another forum that some people were experiencing some audio problems (I believe it was on certain panny players), but nothing about freezes. You might have a defective disk.
post #57 of 115
My wife and I spotted this flick over the weekend while at Costco for $20+ so we picked it up and watched it late Sun evening. I set the HD aspect adjustment on my GT50 to full (100% vs 95% scan) and it looked terrific. Can't commend too much on the sound as my setup has the DTS master soundtrack being output as a PCM signal to my DD amp, but I can't honestly notice. I was picking up effects that were as discrete as ever.

Of the 3 Daniel Craig Bond movies I'd rank Skyfall second best, with Casino Royal being #1. This may very well be due to the fact that Craig was looking every bit his age in Skyfall, which jives perfectly with the plot. Go back now and watch him kick ass in your Casino Royal BD and you'll see what I mean.
post #58 of 115
Great movie, although I gave it a 92. I thought the From Russia with Love had more suspence. Haven't watched the Blu-ray Version of it yet to see how the PQ came out, but it kept you on the edge of your seat: Skyfall great PQ, but no edge of my seat though.
post #59 of 115
Anyone not able to skip the coming attractions/bluray advertising ..... I wast not able to skip all this and go directly to the movie....anyone else have this problem...
very annoying...
post #60 of 115
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Originally Posted by bignorm View Post

Anyone not able to skip the coming attractions/bluray advertising ..... I wast not able to skip all this and go directly to the movie....anyone else have this problem...
very annoying...

Greetings,

The only way to skip them is to hit the chapter advance for each until you arrive at the main menu. This is a common practice by the studios and I agree that it is indeed annoying.


Regards,
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