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post #31 of 372
I tried to buy from ViewSonic also but they must have sold out.

For those also trying to buy one, I called ViewSonic Online Stores because if you try to checkout online with ViewSonic, you can't choose shipping method and thus can't check out. The ViewSonic Sales Rep said the unit has not been released yet and it will be released in about two weeks. Of course, I have no idea about the accuracy of that release date. And Leckian must have got an early/pre release of the unit.

J&R jr.com has them for $700 and so does CDW - pre-order only. I haven't received any info on when i can expect to receive it. If you order from ViewSonic Directly, they have it for $820 and I'd have to pay sales tax (in Texas) of ~$68 for a total of ~ $890. I haven't read the fine print yet and I hope J&R doesn't change the price on me, but for $190 bucks cheaper, I'll go with J&R. Of course, it may take longer depending on how the units are distributed to retailers but I can a wait a week or two longer to save $190.

I'll post if i get any more info.
post #32 of 372
I would have to say that for all the features it offers this probably one if not the best i've seen for price and so on. I wonder what type of 3D it uses. Side by side, page flipping over 120 htz. The resolution it offers beats everything i've seen. And if the amount of light is lost in 3D mode is as little as you think then that is so cool. I am a little concern about no being able to lessen the wash out once it's in 3D mode. Can you make any adjustments in 3D mode to help it. I wonder if the 3D offered over the HDMI is the same as the 3D would be over the VGA if that's what i did. So you have anyway to hook this up to a computer and check it out that way via the VGA connection??
post #33 of 372
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Right now this projector comes with a free screen and mount, however customer has to pay for shipping and the shipping is on the high side. For a 100" pull down screen and mount the shipping charge is $103.

Link for "free screen and mount"
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWork/Rebates_Promos/033113_VIEWSONIC_Screen.pdf


Link for shipping costs: http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=846&lang=en

Link to Rebate Form
www.elitescreens.com/vs2
post #34 of 372
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Once I get it I can do some of that and post it. Cost only $699..was surprised to see it has CMS built-in...probably not good for someone sensitive to rainbows though.
what is CMS and what does it have to do with rainbow effect? thanks
post #35 of 372
garibay_2004 - Check this thread out, http://www.avsforum.com/t/1177721/cms-menu-in-projectors
It might give you a better understanding rather than myself trying to explain it in one post smile.gif


Thread Question:

I just noticed this while looking for an upgrade to a 1080p projector. I have never been a fan on viewsonic in fear that they where "cheep". Do you guys think this might be an upgrade from my Acer h5360. I love that thing. But want 1080p as I sit close. + I wonder if it works with my nvidia 3d glasses kit. hmm..

But anyhow, in your opinions would this be an upgrade from my existing acer h5360?

Seems like a good deal. *shrug* Your Thoughts?
Edited by cmerola - 3/2/13 at 8:43pm
post #36 of 372
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what is CMS and what does it have to do with rainbow effect? thanks
CMS is color management system usually not found in cheap projectors. It has nothing to do with rainbows which relates to the color wheel speed and the type of color segments on the wheel.
post #37 of 372
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I received my 3D blu-ray player and 3D glasses today and watched two 3D movies on the PJD7820HD. The 3D works well and it is great fun...but PQ suffers because all the projector color controls are disabled in 3D mode and the picture that is gorgeous in 2D mode becomes washed out. The 3D glasses because they darken the picture helps to mitigate this problem and well lite scenes look ok but the darker scenes that would otherwise look good in 2D mode are not that satisfying. I think this issue could be addressed by using a 3D blu-ray player that has the typical TV color/image controls like brightness, contrast, color saturation and hue in their menu system. LG, Pioneer and Toshiba models tend to have these controls. Unfortunately my favorite cheap brand, Panasonic does not. I have to emphasize the 1080P 2D picture this projector puts out for the price point of $699 is outstanding. If a 3D blu-ray player with color/image controls can address the PQ issues in 3D mode than this projector will be a tremendous bargain. Due to lack of experience with the Viewsonic brand I can't vouch for the reliability over the long term for this projector. I did have problems syncing with the projector in 3D mode. I discovered that there was no problem if I connected directly to the projector from the DVD player, but when going thru my Pioneer 3D capable A-V receiver it was problematic...once it would sync going thru the receiver it would remained locked with no problems but the initial sync was hit or miss. What was odd with the DVD player output set to 1080P the projector reported the signal as1920x2205x24Hz.
Edited by leckian - 3/3/13 at 9:28am
post #38 of 372
Do you have a computer or lap top you can hook this projector up to via VGA or HAMI. First, hook the computer up via the VGA and try the 3D that way. Go to YouTube or something and try watching a video in 3D. you might have to have the refresh rate of the computer to 120htz to see the 3D effect. When using the computer hooked up via VGA you might have less option greyed out in the menu of the projector like you do hooked up via HDMI. Again, what type of 3D does this projector use? Side by side, interlaced, page flipping, top or bottom..etc?? With some projectors you can do more tweaking with the projector when its hooked via VGA. Not to mention you have the options of changing the colors through the display setting on the computer and can compensate for the wash out of colors that occurs when switched to 3D. My source to play my 3D stuff is through my PC. I have a Home Theater PC. Let me know the outcome of these ideas.
post #39 of 372
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Do you have a computer or lap top you can hook this projector up to via VGA or HAMI. First, hook the computer up via the VGA and try the 3D that way. Go to YouTube or something and try watching a video in 3D. you might have to have the refresh rate of the computer to 120htz to see the 3D effect. When using the computer hooked up via VGA you might have less option greyed out in the menu of the projector like you do hooked up via HDMI. Again, what type of 3D does this projector use? Side by side, interlaced, page flipping, top or bottom..etc?? With some projectors you can do more tweaking with the projector when its hooked via VGA. Not to mention you have the options of changing the colors through the display setting on the computer and can compensate for the wash out of colors that occurs when switched to 3D. My source to play my 3D stuff is through my PC. I have a Home Theater PC. Let me know the outcome of these ideas.
I will give it a try tomorrow...but I am ordering a LG 3D Blu-Ray player because it has color, contrast, and brightness controls. I tried a Walmart Philips 3D blu-ray player today and although it did not have real color controls it had video presets like vivid, cool, animation and action and using those I was able to brighten up and improve the contrast...just not enough so I am hoping the LG will provide enough control. Quite honestly for what I paid for this projector I am thrilled.
post #40 of 372
Hey guys, i was about to buy the epson powerlite home cinema 710hd but then i saw this new 1080p viewsonic! Do yu guys think i should wait for it? Is it an obious decission as in one is 720p and the other 1080. Its only about 150 bugs more... i will be using it for movies and games at home. Please help me decide between these 2
post #41 of 372
Hey Leckian, i also forgot to mention whether you could elaborate more on how the controls contrasts and colors become greyed out when connecting this projector with HDMI. I want to use it as a home entretainment system, do you think its a nice chice or better go with the epson 710hd? Does this mean you cant change them? Wouldnt you be changing it through the device your sroucing it from anywayz? srry first projector buy hopefully soon!


Many thanks
post #42 of 372
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I will give it a try tomorrow...but I am ordering a LG 3D Blu-Ray player because it has color, contrast, and brightness controls. I tried a Walmart Philips 3D blu-ray player today and although it did not have real color controls it had video presets like vivid, cool, animation and action and using those I was able to brighten up and improve the contrast...just not enough so I am hoping the LG will provide enough control. Quite honestly for what I paid for this projector I am thrilled.

Hooked up a computer both VGA and HDMI...color, tint sharpness controls are disabled. If you have a decent video card you can use your video overlay settings to control picture.
Edited by leckian - 3/4/13 at 10:15pm
post #43 of 372
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Originally Posted by Camil Planella View Post

Hey guys, i was about to buy the epson powerlite home cinema 710hd but then i saw this new 1080p viewsonic! Do yu guys think i should wait for it? Is it an obious decission as in one is 720p and the other 1080. Its only about 150 bugs more... i will be using it for movies and games at home. Please help me decide between these 2

The Viewsonic picture quality completely trounces the Epson 710HD and the 8350 as well.
post #44 of 372
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Hey Leckian, i also forgot to mention whether you could elaborate more on how the controls contrasts and colors become greyed out when connecting this projector with HDMI. I want to use it as a home entretainment system, do you think its a nice chice or better go with the epson 710hd? Does this mean you cant change them? Wouldnt you be changing it through the device your sroucing it from anywayz? srry first projector buy hopefully soon!


Many thanks
Using the HDMI input the brightness contrast and gamma, color temperature work but the color, tint sharpness controls are disabled. You can adjust the color using the CMS but that is not a simple process and doesn't lend itself to making some quick touch-ups if the program material needs it. It does have a short throw so you should make sure that it will work for you.
post #45 of 372
Fantastic!!! Ive made right choice! yeah a short throw is what i was also after. So when you say you can use 3d using cheap d link glasses, do they have to be some sort in particular? Ive looked and there are so many different types, what should their charecteristics be? Ive got an nvidia gtx265 which im pretty sure can do 3d... so planning to use that to play games and movies. So happy, ill also be using the rebate you mentioned fot he free screen & mount! Many thanks & BEst Regards
post #46 of 372
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Originally Posted by Camil Planella View Post

Fantastic!!! Ive made right choice! yeah a short throw is what i was also after. So when you say you can use 3d using cheap d link glasses, do they have to be some sort in particular? Ive looked and there are so many different types, what should their charecteristics be? Ive got an nvidia gtx265 which im pretty sure can do 3d... so planning to use that to play games and movies. So happy, ill also be using the rebate you mentioned fot he free screen & mount! Many thanks & BEst Regards

These are the glasses I bought, they are cheap...could break if you are not careful..but they work..I bought 6 pairs so that is why I went cheap. You can read users reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AASENXC/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
post #47 of 372
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The Viewsonic picture quality completely trounces the Epson 710HD and the 8350 as well.
"Completely trounces" the 8350? Really?
post #48 of 372
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"Completely trounces" the 8350? Really?
Yes in terms of the picture... the black level is significantly better. Not saying the Viewsonic is as well made and the 8350 is easier to use, setup and has great zoom, lens shift and fantastic placement flexibility.
post #49 of 372
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Yes in terms of the picture... the black level is significantly better.
Thanks. Were you able to view both side by side or at least relatively close in the same environment? Don't take offense, but my skeptical hairs stand up when i see terms like "completely trounces" and "blows away" in these forums.
post #50 of 372
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Thanks. Were you able to view both side by side or at least relatively close in the same environment? Don't take offense, but my skeptical hairs stand up when i see terms like "completely trounces" and "blows away" in these forums.
I have owned Epson projectors for years. Currently I have a 8500UB...the Viewsonic is no match for the Epson 8500UB. The 8350 I am quite familiar with. I have installed and setup this projector as well. Trounce is a probably an overstatement..it is born from my enthusiasm of how good this projector is for $699.
post #51 of 372
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I will give it a try tomorrow...but I am ordering a LG 3D Blu-Ray player because it has color, contrast, and brightness controls. I tried a Walmart Philips 3D blu-ray player today and although it did not have real color controls it had video presets like vivid, cool, animation and action and using those I was able to brighten up and improve the contrast...just not enough so I am hoping the LG will provide enough control. Quite honestly for what I paid for this projector I am thrilled.

I am happy to say overall I feel I have arrived at a good solution for 3D playback with this projector. As you know in 3D mode several of the color, brightness, contrast controls are disabled and the resulting image is washed out and lacks contrast. Today I hooked up the LG BD670. This 3D player has color, brightness, contrast and a few other controls. The resulting image is much better, more saturated colors and better contrast. Unless someone has color controls in their A-V Receiver, I would say this is a must for 3D playback from a Blu-Ray Player. If you are using your computer and you have your video overlay control that should work as well.
post #52 of 372
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I am happy to say overall I feel I have arrived at a good solution for 3D playback with this projector. As you know in 3D mode several of the color, brightness, contrast controls are disabled and the resulting image is washed out and lacks contrast. Today I hooked up the LG BD670. This 3D player has color, brightness, contrast and a few other controls. The resulting image is much better, more saturated colors and better contrast. Unless someone has color controls in their A-V Receiver, I would say this is a must for 3D playback from a Blu-Ray Player. If you are using your computer and you have your video overlay control that should work as well.

Hey Leckian, I'm still curious to know what type of 3D this projector uses. Does it use the 120 htz for page flipping, or does it do side by side, top and bottom or interlaced?? When you go to youtube via the computer hook up what method of 3D do you have to choose for it to work?? Could you hook it back up to the computer to find out?? This seems like an awesome projector and if nothing else comes out better then when i go to buy a new one at the end of the year then this will be it.
post #53 of 372
Have you guys noticed that many sites advertise it as an LED projector rather than the DLP it is...
finding it hard to find a site in canada that has it in stock & good price... was't viewsonic suppose to be selling it for 699 as an intro price... i saw it on a flyer...ill just have to wait a bit more xD
post #54 of 372
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Hey Leckian, I'm still curious to know what type of 3D this projector uses. Does it use the 120 htz for page flipping, or does it do side by side, top and bottom or interlaced?? When you go to youtube via the computer hook up what method of 3D do you have to choose for it to work?? Could you hook it back up to the computer to find out?? This seems like an awesome projector and if nothing else comes out better then when i go to buy a new one at the end of the year then this will be it.

Yes I can take another look at that...please reply with a link to a 3D video you are familiar with and have tried so we can compare apples to apples.
post #55 of 372
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Yes I can take another look at that...please reply with a link to a 3D video you are familiar with and have tried so we can compare apples to apples.

you should be able to view any of the 3D video off of youtube site that they offer. here's a link to The great and powerfull OZ 3d trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JygR0E6nM

click on the 3D icon and go through the selection to you find out which one comes out 3D on your projector. they offer the normal colored glasses as well as interlaced and side by side. Your projector might or might not work with those 2 option though just in case that 3D projector does top and bottom or page flipping. I just want to find out which 3D method this projector uses.
post #56 of 372
you also stated that your image size is 88 inches. is 88 inches the max because that is as big as your screen, you have the projector projecting on, or could you actually go bigger if you had a bigger screen with the picture still being of good quality? let say if you went to a 90 inch or 95 inch or maybe 100 inches. how much bigger do you think you could make your image??
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you also stated that your image size is 88 inches. is 88 inches the max because that is as big as your screen, you have the projector projecting on, or could you actually go bigger if you had a bigger screen with the picture still being of good quality? let say if you went to a 90 inch or 95 inch or maybe 100 inches. how much bigger do you think you could make your image??

This projector is now in stock and shipping from some online sellers like Provantage. My screen size is a limitation of my wall space and a close viewing distance of 11'. This projector would have no problem supporting a much larger screen. Bear in mind my Vutec Silverstar is an extremely high gain screen. I think even with a lower gain screen you could easily go with a screen of 150" or more in a light controlled room.
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you should be able to view any of the 3D video off of youtube site that they offer. here's a link to The great and powerfull OZ 3d trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JygR0E6nM

click on the 3D icon and go through the selection to you find out which one comes out 3D on your projector. they offer the normal colored glasses as well as interlaced and side by side. Your projector might or might not work with those 2 option though just in case that 3D projector does top and bottom or page flipping. I just want to find out which 3D method this projector uses.
There has been a delay in trying this out again because my power for my laptop stopped working. My new power supply should be here in a day or two and I will give this clip a try.
post #59 of 372
I was reading info for the projector at viewsonic website on the projector and one piece of info about the projector is that at only a 6 1/2 distance the projector throws out a 72 inch picture. My current projector is about 10 1/2 feet from screen and throws out about the same picture. I just wanted to make sure that in the future i buy this then the image thrown out would still be good even though the image would be about 100+ inches at that distance.
post #60 of 372
NOOB question. I have a small room maybe 8x15. No windows, underground, so no external source of light. With this projector in this room, will a screen make a noticeable difference, or can I project directly onto the wall. I've also heard that you can buy a special paint for the wall. Does anyone have experience with this?
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