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Poll Results: Which movie will win or should win the A.A. BP

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 0% (0)
    Amour
  • 34% (9)
    Argo
  • 0% (0)
    Beasts of the Southern Wild
  • 7% (2)
    Django Unchained
  • 11% (3)
    Les Miserables
  • 3% (1)
    Life of Pi
  • 15% (4)
    Lincoln
  • 15% (4)
    Silver Linings Playbook
  • 15% (4)
    Zero Dark Thirty
26 Total Votes  
post #31 of 95
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

I'm amazed They Live has held up as well as it has seeing as it's the best documentary out there on modern society.
post #32 of 95
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

In fact-based films, how much fiction is OK?

“You just have to get rid of things that maybe would have made the story more truthful,” says Reeves.

Huh?

In the instance of Lincoln, why? I can understand that history or everyday life, when taken over the context of time can be boring so you need to spice things up, but saying two voted against the 13th amendment when all four voted for it is pure BS. If you can’t incorporate that fact and somehow make it just as compelling, then maybe you aren’t that good of a screenwriter and need to find another occupation. It fries my rear that today so many who are given airtime and are not historians (I can think of 3 highly rated on-air personalities whose credentials are a high school diploma, who think they are Gods gift to man when it comes to political babbling), are trying to rewrite history in order to serve their agenda.
Edited by Aliens - 2/21/13 at 1:31pm
post #33 of 95
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Huh?

In the instance of Lincoln, why? I can understand that history or everyday life, when taken over the context of time can be boring so you need to spice things up, but saying two voted against the 13th amendment when all four voted for it is pure BS. If you can’t incorporate that fact and somehow make it just as compelling, then maybe you aren’t that good of a screenwriter and need to find another occupation. It fries my rear that today so many who are given airtime and are not historians (I can think of 3 highly rated on-air personalities whose credentials are a high school diploma, who think they are Gods gift to man when it comes to political babbling), are trying to rewrite history in order to serve their agenda.
I just hate it when you interject FACTS into this forum....biggrin.gif
post #34 of 95
The thesis of Lincoln and Doris Kearns Goodwin's book, A Team of Rivals, upon which the film is based, is that Lincoln pulled off a near miracle in getting his fractious cabinet and a congress, much of which was stridently hostile, behind the 14th Amendment. Consequently, I didn't sweat such minutiae as precisely who in the congress voted to submit the proposed amendment to the people.
post #35 of 95
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The thesis of Lincoln and Doris Kearns Goodwin's book, A Team of Rivals, upon which the film is based, is that Lincoln pulled off a near miracle in getting his fractious cabinet and a congress, much of which was stridently hostile, behind the 14th Amendment. Consequently, I didn't sweat such minutiae as precisely who in the congress voted to submit the proposed amendment to the people.
It's important.
By saying CT reps voted against it, it leaves the impression the majority of their constituency was pro-slavery....and that's serious business:
http://www.livescience.com/27364-oscars-innacurate-historical-films.html
post #36 of 95
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It's important.
By saying CT reps voted against it, it leaves the impression the majority of their constituency was pro-slavery....and that's serious business:
http://www.livescience.com/27364-oscars-innacurate-historical-films.html

It depends on what's important. That the film's title was Lincoln is telling, I think. The underlying politics in the country at the time were far less important in Spielberg's storytelling than was Lincoln's conduct, at least it seems so to me. What can I say? The historical errors did nothing misleading in terms of showing us who Lincoln was and what he did at that critical time.

This is a remarkable year for the Oscars. I can't remember a year when there have been so many critically acclaimed box office successes nominated for Best Picture. The competitors in the acting categories are equally strong. The Best Director Oscar competition is another matter but I can't dwell on it for this way lies madness.smile.gif
post #37 of 95
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

It depends on what's important. That the film's title was Lincoln is telling, I think. The underlying politics in the country at the time were far less important in Spielberg's storytelling than was Lincoln's conduct, at least it seems so to me. What can I say? The historical errors did nothing misleading in terms of showing us who Lincoln was and what he did at that critical time.
The problem, as the article in the link points out and American politics demonstrates, is a lie told often enough becomes truth.wink.gif

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The Best Director Oscar competition is another matter but I can't dwell on it for this way lies madness.smile.gif
Now you know why I am the way I am....biggrin.gif
post #38 of 95
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The problem, as the article in the link points out and American politics demonstrates, is a lie told often enough becomes truth.wink.gif

Alas, there are always those who will accept as unqualified fact anything put forth in a motion picture that is "based on a true story." Those of us with a more wary (Cynical?) point of view tend to keep in mind that any such film nearly always is a lot more "based on" than it is "true."smile.gif
post #39 of 95
Thread Starter 
T minus 1.5 hours to until the show begins.

Who is going to be watching live?

Update the thread during the broadcast if you like...smile.gif
post #40 of 95
Brave....ehh was rooting for wreck-it ralph
post #41 of 95
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Brave....ehh was rooting for wreck-it ralph

I was rooting for Paranorman, but I haven't seen wreck-it-ralph. My 10 year old says that the academy blew it on that one.
post #42 of 95
LEs Mis for best sound mix?

Zero Dark and Skyfall for sound editing
post #43 of 95
Wow. Skyfall winning two academy awards this year. Sound Editing (Shared) and Best Original Song. As a fan of James Bond films this is nice to see them basically double their entire catalogue's total number of awards.
post #44 of 95
Go Ben!
post #45 of 95
My predictions, or should I say most of my preferences, turned out right after all! So glad Argo and Jennifer Lawrence won!!!! smile.gif
post #46 of 95
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A little surprised Argo won, SLP was much more in line with the voter's interests.

Haven't seen neither, I can't really comment on the worthiness of the winner.

I was pulling for my underdogs: Beasts of the Southern Wild and Quvenzhané Wallis...
Alas, not to be.
post #47 of 95
Thread Starter 
I am doing a separate post for a completely different issue.

Originally sat down to watch the show LIVE....something I never do.

Aaaaannnnnnd then came the opening monologue....
Yep, you guessed it.
For the first time in history, one of Capt. Kirk's predictions came true: Seth MacFarlane is the worst ever.mad.gifmad.gif

"We saw your boobs, we saw your boobs...."
REALLY...TRUELY???????
I walked out of the room and told the wife I couldn't take it anymore.

One BILLION people watching around the world.redface.gif

Thanks Seth....you just confirmed humanity's suspicion America is a nation run by 9th grade boys.rolleyes.gif
post #48 of 95
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I walked out of the room and told the wife I couldn't take it anymore.

One BILLION people watching around the world.redface.gif

Thanks Seth....you just confirmed humanity's suspicion America is a nation run by 9th grade boys.rolleyes.gif

Its OK OINK, most of humanity was sleeping by then. wink.gif
post #49 of 95
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I am doing a separate post for a completely different issue.

Originally sat down to watch the show LIVE....something I never do.

Aaaaannnnnnd then came the opening monologue....
Yep, you guessed it.
For the first time in history, one of Capt. Kirk's predictions came true: Seth MacFarlane is the worst ever.mad.gifmad.gif

"We saw your boobs, we saw your boobs...."
REALLY...TRUELY???????
I walked out of the room and told the wife I couldn't take it anymore.

One BILLION people watching around the world.redface.gif

Thanks Seth....you just confirmed humanity's suspicion America is a nation run by 9th grade boys.rolleyes.gif

I did like Flight- The Sock Puppet Rendition biggrin.gif
post #50 of 95
Thread Starter 
I'm sorry, but did anyone in the audience LOOK like 9th graders who never got past grade school?rolleyes.gif

If the Academy doesn't change their Rotate-The-Show's-Producers policy, I am done with watching their f_cking "show."

It isn't often I feel embarrassed to be American.....
post #51 of 95
Only Seth MacFarlane could come up with a song like that

F*cking genius!
post #52 of 95
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

"We saw your boobs, we saw your boobs...."
REALLY...TRUELY???????
I walked out of the room and told the wife I couldn't take it anymore.

That was juvenile, but I did laugh when Seth started listing ALL of the movies that Kate Winslet has shown her boobs.


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Originally sat down to watch the show LIVE....something I never do.

That was your first mistake. tongue.gif I hit the play button 50 minutes after it started and caught up at 11.

Regarding hosts; to me Johnny Carson had the best one-liners, but Billy Crystal excelled because of his “performances” throughout the show. I actually liked Seth (I laughed a lot) and thought it was one of the few Oscars that didn’t bore me to death, which is why I didn’t have as many FF moments as I usually do.

I had to laugh when Tarantino gave his speech. With his pauses, he sounded so much like the Jon Lovitz pathological liar character that it cracked me up.

Nora Jones sounded great.

I’m looking forward to watching all of these great looking movies.
post #53 of 95
I didn't tune in. I have a hard time watching people pat themselves on the back after getting paid handsomely for plying their trade. And to this day, I can't wrap my mind around how someone can win a best actor for one movie, best actress for another, a best supporting actor for another, a best suppoorting actress for another, but the best picture award goes to a totally different movie. Oh yeah, and this...

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Edited by smudge981 - 2/25/13 at 7:28am
post #54 of 95
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I have a hard time watching people pat themselves on the back after getting paid handsomely for plying their trade.

And because they're paid handsomely means they should just shut up? I don't get this sorry. Awards (not just the oscars) are simply here to recognize a quality of work. They work in a business where they usually get (very) rich, but there are artists as well in that business. Artists don't have to be poor and unknown to be genuine. Does Daniel Day-Lewis do it for the money? I don't think so. Did Ben Affleck expect to get so many accolades for his film? I don't think so. It could be argued that the oscars don't mean much, but a little recognition from your peers can't hurt every once in a while - I think it's kind of a sane exercise, despite the bling-bling and the same decades old boring speeches (with some exceptions).
post #55 of 95
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

And because they're paid handsomely means they should just shut up? I don't get this sorry. Awards (not just the oscars) are simply here to recognize a quality of work. They work in a business where they usually get (very) rich, but there are artists as well in that business. Artists don't have to be poor and unknown to be genuine. Does Daniel Day-Lewis do it for the money? I don't think so. Did Ben Affleck expect to get so many accolades for his film? I don't think so. It could be argued that the oscars don't mean much, but a little recognition from your peers can't hurt every once in a while - I think it's kind of a sane exercise, despite the bling-bling and the same decades old boring speeches (with some exceptions).

You can't be this naive, Hollywood has it's own "K street" labor unions, and lobbyists, all within their own circle. In other words corruption much like Washington. If this show was just some peer to peer recognition, many more of us would have tuned in actually.
post #56 of 95
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

And because they're paid handsomely means they should just shut up? I don't get this sorry. Awards (not just the oscars) are simply here to recognize a quality of work.

Yeah, businesses worldwide have extravagant conventions where they hand out awards. Just look at these egomaniacs. wink.gifHENAAC (Hispanic Engineer National Achievement Awards Corporation)

I can understand not liking or watching the Oscars, but we get this complaint every year. I can’t say I understand it (actually, I think I do wink.gif ). Especially when, as I say, corporations do this all the time. With 40 million viewers, the Oscars blow the competition out of the water.
Edited by Aliens - 2/25/13 at 9:26am
post #57 of 95
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

In other words corruption much like Washington.
You can't be so paranoid....
post #58 of 95
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Originally Posted by thehun View Post

You can't be this naive, Hollywood has it's own "K street" labor unions, and lobbyists, all within their own circle. In other words corruption much like Washington.

I know. All I 'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, in some cases, it's not *only* that. At least I hope so. Regarding yesterday's oscar night, I think we've seen much worse. There were many good movies in competition, and different types of movies even. That alone was kinda refreshing imo.
post #59 of 95
Because so many outstanding films were in Oscar contention this year, I watched this year's Oscars telecast live and loved it. Sorry guys, but I thought Seth MacFarlane was a hoot and he can sing and dance too. Who knew?smile.gif I suspect that Tine Fey and Amy Poehler will host the Oscars next year but if they decide to bring back MacFarlane that will be just fine with me.

When Ben Affleck's Argo was announced as the Best Picture Oscar winner I cheered. What a wonderful way for the Academy to give a big Bronx cheer to the Director's Guild for passing over more deserving directors in favor of a couple of art house films, Amour and Beasts of the Southern Wild and another, which I thought was badly paced, Life of Pi. Anyway, huzzahs to Affleck! The Academy owes him a Best Director nomination one of these days, at least.

I found myself sweating blood over the Best Supporting Actress winner's announcement. I really wanted Anne Hathaway to win for her luminous performance as the doomed Fantine in Les Miserables and she did! In this connection, I thought the Les Mis production number with most of the film's cast was wonderful stuff, the Oscars at their best.

As happy as I was that Jennifer Lawrence won the Best Actress Oscar for her performance as the flawed heroine in Silver Linings Playbook, I had hoped, but didn't hold out much hope, that Jessica Chastain might win for her great performance as the driven CIA agent in Zero Dark Thirty.

Christoph Waltz's winning his second Best Supporting Actor Oscar for his performance as the lethal doctor in Django Unchained excited me almost as much as Hathaway's win. I thought Waltz's was clearly the best among the nominated Best Supporting Actor performances.

Finally, I had long since discounted any serious possibility that Daniel Day-Lewis wouldn't win another Best Actor Oscar. His performance as Abraham Lincoln in Lincoln was one of the best, perhaps the very best, performances in the history of film.
post #60 of 95
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Originally Posted by smudge981 View Post

I didn't tune in. I have a hard time watching people pat themselves on the back after getting paid handsomely for plying their trade. And to this day, I can't wrap my mind around how someone can win a best actor for one movie, best actress for another, a best supporting actor for another, a best suppoorting actress for another, but the best picture award goes to a totally different movie. Oh yeah, and this...

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Soooo what about watching athletes winning an award?
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