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post #4261 of 15148
I own a Samsung PN60E7000 and I got these for me. I wear prescription glasses and these are great and work perfectly with my tv.
They cost around 64us but they are worthed imo.


Panasonic VIERA TY-ER3D4MU Active Shutter 3D Eyewear (for 2012 and 2013 Panasonic VIERA 3D TVs)
post #4262 of 15148
I'm too cheap to drop that much for just messing around wink.gif I have the Panasonic TC-P65GT30 and I've read in the thread here the cheaper $20 Sony's work just as well.
post #4263 of 15148
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/prepare-pay-playstation-vita-wont-work-extra-ps4-controller-says-6C10784610

Article is a bit confusing, but my take is that the PSV can be used as a remote controller / second screen as long as the developers codes / supports it (like the WiiU). It won't have that functionality by default.


We know that all games will support remote play at the OS level and developers are being asked to provide control schemes for that for their titles. So not sure why just using it as a controller is not an option...
post #4264 of 15148
After seeing the possibilities Oculus Rift opens up, I lost any interest I had in 3D to be honest. I also have no doubt that someday we'll see a much less bulky version of it that's closer to a regular pair of glasses.
post #4265 of 15148
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/prepare-pay-playstation-vita-wont-work-extra-ps4-controller-says-6C10784610

Article is a bit confusing, but my take is that the PSV can be used as a remote controller / second screen as long as the developers codes / supports it (like the WiiU). It won't have that functionality by default.


We know that all games will support remote play at the OS level and developers are being asked to provide control schemes for that for their titles. So not sure why just using it as a controller is not an option...

From the link:
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The PlayStation Vita may not be as useful as many gamers had originally hoped.

Outside of the narrow range of titles for Cross Controller play, is there anyone who expected almost all PS4 games to be optionally controlled by the Vita? Who are these "many gamers" he speaks of? I haven't seen any clamoring for this feature to be near-universal. What a stupid article.
post #4266 of 15148
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

After seeing the possibilities Oculus Rift opens up, I lost any interest I had in 3D to be honest. I also have no doubt that someday we'll see a much less bulky version of it that's closer to a regular pair of glasses.

I'm definitely getting one as soon as the release version comes out.
post #4267 of 15148
I want one, but I am going to hold off until I am sure that support will last beyond the innitial launch hype. The Oculus Rift may change the world, or it may be another Ouya, great concept, but poor reception and support.
post #4268 of 15148
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/prepare-pay-playstation-vita-wont-work-extra-ps4-controller-says-6C10784610

Article is a bit confusing, but my take is that the PSV can be used as a remote controller / second screen as long as the developers codes / supports it (like the WiiU). It won't have that functionality by default.


We know that all games will support remote play at the OS level and developers are being asked to provide control schemes for that for their titles. So not sure why just using it as a controller is not an option...

Yeah that doesn't make much sense unless Sony has changed their mind about allowing it unfettered access via the OS. Man Gamescon can't get here fast enough, hopefully they'll expand on that a bit. It's the main reason I'm even considering a Vita now.
post #4269 of 15148
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Yeah that doesn't make much sense unless Sony has changed their mind about allowing it unfettered access via the OS. Man Gamescon can't get here fast enough, hopefully they'll expand on that a bit. It's the main reason I'm even considering a Vita now.

I've been messing around with the one I bought refurbished from EB Games. It is an amazing little device for how much it cost. Uncharted and Wipeout look great, and the AR games are super neat (I'm hoping they will do more with this feature). The screen is nice and big, the touch sensitivity is awesome. And there are a fair amount of new games coming out for it. Check out this video (start at 1:25):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGT5Rxyuzio

Can't wait for that game!
post #4270 of 15148
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Originally Posted by MaxDam77 View Post

At first I was crazy about 3D too when I got my 60 inch plasma, but all the fuss is gone. In movies it distract me a little sometimes.

I played few games in 3D. Uncharted 3 for example and It looked worse imo, some texture look better in 2D than 3D.
Never played a 3D game since.


In my opinion field of vision is key in 3D really working. So unless you are right up on a monitor or TV, over 100 inches with a projector or future TV's is the way to go for 3D couch viewing. Having your peripherals in the 3D view just tricks the brain so much better and just makes it "work".

But I hear you about Uncharted 3D, the 3D was implemented well, but at sacrifice of the textures, which kinda killed it for me.


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Originally Posted by defdog99 View Post

The real questions of the day are:

1) has anyone played PAIN in 3d ?

I've mess with in in 3D, it's fun, but I wasn't a huge Pain fan before 3D, so it was just meh for me.
post #4271 of 15148
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

I want one, but I am going to hold off until I am sure that support will last beyond the innitial launch hype. The Oculus Rift may change the world, or it may be another Ouya, great concept, but poor reception and support.

http://kotaku.com/lets-look-at-the-big-name-titles-playable-on-oculus-ri-958577906
http://www.techradar.com/au/news/gaming/oculus-rift-in-space-gaming-s-final-frontier-1169689

There is quite a bit of support growing around the Rift (216 planned launch titles). And I want to experience a bunch of them. Especially games like MYST 5 (End of Ages), Half Life series, Mirrors Edge, Bioshock Infinite, Mass Effect 2, Dirt 3 and new IPs. However, they are all planned for PC only. Which is initially a good thing IMO. That of course can change...if OR allows all 3 console players to open up their exclusive catalogs and hardware and support it too.
post #4272 of 15148
OR could drive me to be a PC gamer.I wonder how they handle 360 degree movement? Meaning, if I want to turn 180 degrees and go back the direction I just came from, that's more than turning my head a bit. I'm sure it's a combination of head movement and joystick input, but I wonder how well those two actions integrate.
post #4273 of 15148
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Originally Posted by metallicaband View Post

After seeing the possibilities Oculus Rift opens up, I lost any interest I had in 3D to be honest. I also have no doubt that someday we'll see a much less bulky version of it that's closer to a regular pair of glasses.

I agree that Oculus Rift looks cool, I'm just not convinced that it will be any more of a success then other past peripherals. Plus, I already own everything I need for 3D. If Oculus Rift ends up being less the $100 it will get me to look at it but, if it is more then $100 then I will not even consider it until it proves that it is not the next Ouya.
post #4274 of 15148
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

I agree that Oculus Rift looks cool, I'm just not convinced that it will be any more of a success then other past peripherals. Plus, I already own everything I need for 3D. If Oculus Rift ends up being less the $100 it will get me to look at it but, if it is more then $100 then I will not even consider it until it proves that it is not the next Ouya.

How could they even get the price that low?
I would think even $200 would be difficult.
post #4275 of 15148
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

How could they even get the price that low?
I would think even $200 would be difficult.

I'm surprised they can't build it for less. It's not much more than a smartphone display, a few commodity gyros/accelerometers and optics prob made from cheap plastic.
post #4276 of 15148
Well they do have to factor in r&d expenses, etc. when deciding what to sell the unit at. It's not just parts used. I wouldn't be surprised to see it priced at $400 or more. If they're smart they'll price it at what the market will bear.
post #4277 of 15148
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

I'm surprised they can't build it for less. It's not much more than a smartphone display, a few commodity gyros/accelerometers and optics prob made from cheap plastic.

The big selling point is the optic projection system that turns the display into a realistic FOV 3D view. Good glass lens to make that happen isn’t going to be very cheap, especially to start with. The rest shouldn’t be too expensive, but I think they said the final version is going to be going with a 1080P display which will add to the cost. If successful, 4K would probably be in the pipeline to reduce any screen door effect (which has been noted on the 720P dev units).

Not to mention a large chunk seems to be working to create developer API's to make adoptiong that much more easy.
Edited by TyrantII - 7/31/13 at 8:10am
post #4278 of 15148
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Originally Posted by TyrantII View Post

The big selling point is the optic projection system that turns the display into a realistic FOV 3D view. Good glass lens to make that happen isn’t going to be very cheap, especially to start with. The rest shouldn’t be too expensive, but I think they said the final version is going to be going with a 1080P display which will add to the cost. If successful, 4K would probably be in the pipeline to reduce any screen door effect (which has been noted on the 720P dev units).

Not to mention a large chunk seems to be working to create developer API's to make adoptiong that much more easy.

Nah...the lenses are probably super cheap, they include three sets in every box. No way it's actual glass, just mass produced polycarbonate, like the stuff you find in $1 reading glasses.

If they ever hit critical mass and sell millions of them, I could see the price easily dropping below $99 quite fast.
post #4279 of 15148
The people developing the OR are being very smart about it. Get lots of developers interested, have lots of popular existing games ported to it, show folks what it can do and do well. Even get the console makers interested in possibly adding the OR as a peripheral. The other shoe will drop when they try to sell this thing for $399.00 USD. If it moves significant units at that price then I guess it's for real, if it releases cheaper then $399 then I'll be very surprised.

Is this a future PS4 peripheral? Only if they can sell it for $100 or less.
post #4280 of 15148
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Originally Posted by blastermaster View Post

I've been messing around with the one I bought refurbished from EB Games. It is an amazing little device for how much it cost. Uncharted and Wipeout look great, and the AR games are super neat (I'm hoping they will do more with this feature). The screen is nice and big, the touch sensitivity is awesome. And there are a fair amount of new games coming out for it. Check out this video (start at 1:25):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGT5Rxyuzio

Can't wait for that game!

Dude - The Vita is an Awesome handheld. Play Muramasa Rebirth. That game is just Gorgeous. So many Free games if you are a PS Plus Member. I bought my Vita & 32GB card at Launch and have no regrets whatsoever. My daughter liked it so much I got her one for her B-Day last year off CL for $150 with an 8Gb card and Nerf case. Craigslist is the best place to get a Vita. I see them all the time anywhere between $150 & $200 with SDCards included. Some have games as well
post #4281 of 15148
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Originally Posted by Crash44 View Post

The people developing the OR are being very smart about it. Get lots of developers interested, have lots of popular existing games ported to it, show folks what it can do and do well. Even get the console makers interested in possibly adding the OR as a peripheral. The other shoe will drop when they try to sell this thing for $399.00 USD. If it moves significant units at that price then I guess it's for real, if it releases cheaper then $399 then I'll be very surprised.

Is this a future PS4 peripheral? Only if they can sell it for $100 or less.

You are 100% right on the mark.

You nailed it. No way will this thing launch for less than $300. It is replacing the display itself. And the last time I looked...High end cell phones with 1080p displays were selling for between $300-$800. I think it would be a colossal stupid mistake for them to price this a $99-$199. I know we are focused on games here. But many are forgetting that OR will mate with Mobile devices and even Blu-Ray players...to give an unbelievable VR/3D experience for movies in a perceptual format that exceeds 150"! Witnesses (from articles in the HTPC thread) who have actually observed movies in low resolution OR were amazed about the lifelike 3D experience. Typical claims were..."unreal experience...life altering...disbelief" and etc. That in fact is the bigger market. Display alternatives...especially for the young and young at heart. I suspect that is why Sony was toying with their own expensive system. So...if Sony couldn't bring their system to market for under $500...I don't see why there is any attempt to place a "Cheap" strait jacket on OR. Which blew Sony's unit away BTW. I do see Sony...MS...and Nintendo offerring their own modded peripheral version of OR in the future...for $399. And that will be a great deal if it's seamlessly linked with their respective motion controllers to provide unique new gaming experiences via their consoles. Then we'll be looking at the real and authentic, full blown Next Generation gaming. Whereby PC, consoles and mobile are fully engaged in delivering fully differentiated gaming experiences which embrace the full spectrum of technical possibilities.

Oculus Rift is going to rejuvenate the PC market and sell a lot of gaming computers, mobile phones/devices, Blu-Ray movies and PC games right out of the gate...IMO. I know firsthand that BestBuy is planning a huge muti-category push around it. Sony, MS and Nintendo can procrastinate on this at their own risk. Because the horse has decidedly left the barn. But if I was a betting man...and I am not...I'd bet Nintendo will be first to actually link their mobile system, full catalog and WiiU to OR. Because of their youth orientation. And desire to blunt the PS4 and XB1 momentum. I say stay tuned. IMO, OR is a defining game changer. And it will change the chairs on the console deck too.
post #4282 of 15148
Is the Oculus Rift that useful for watching movies? Even a 3D movie doesn't allow for head-tracking, so I'm wondering what the advantage is.
post #4283 of 15148
the OR is going to be irrelevant to me because I get motion sickness with stuff like that. Heck I can barely play fps games without eventually getting sick so I can imagine how bad this would mess me up.
post #4284 of 15148
might buy OR2, doubt the price will be low enough to warrant a purchase on my end, also the second version should be more polished..
post #4285 of 15148
But wouldn't the OR basically act as an accessory + display at the same time? i.e even if priced at $300, people who wanted a new display for their room or something would see it as an opportunity to actually save some cash? A 4K version would be an absolute bargain.

Or it can't work as a complete display replacement?

I'm not sure how the OR display tech actually works, but how's the PQ on that thing? e.g from contrast, colors..etc besides resolution? I'd hate to be immersed in a virtual world only to see grey blacks all over the place in dark scenes lol.
Edited by metallicaband - 7/31/13 at 2:25pm
post #4286 of 15148
I would think that it would work as a display replacement, but only if you are willing to wear a pair of glasses at all times and never plan on having anyone watch tv with you. Sounds kind of sad.

And I'm guessing if the content isn't made with OR in mind, it probably wouldn't work well (think watching letterboxed content except worse).
post #4287 of 15148
I could of swore this was the PS4 thread =)
post #4288 of 15148
LOL, OR IMO has a pretty big chance to be introduced to the PS4 if it turned out to be a true success and priced right. so it's kinda relevant I'd say.
post #4289 of 15148
No OR convo needs to go back to the OR thread. Virtual headsets suck and we use THIS thread to discuss ps4
post #4290 of 15148
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Originally Posted by l88bastard View Post

No OR convo needs to go back to the OR thread. Virtual headsets suck and we use THIS thread to discuss ps4

Agreed. Get it back in its own thread.
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