Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice
I believe/hope you mean vertically.
Horizontally aligned, vertically oriented.
Originally Posted by Archaea
eD Cinema 12 center is the only true center channel that I've ever heard and liked.
Most center channels sound small and boxy to me. The way around it is an acousticly transparent screen and three identical matching speakers setup vertically.
I like JTR, Seaton, and DIY Statement speakers for center channels too, but these other options are just basically small towers that you orient how you want --- so that isn't really what the question is asking IMO. The eD is the only true center I've heard or owned that I liked which is a true center channel with a non standard L/R layout. It is an excellent center. Dialogue in movies is fantastic and clear.
I always liked ED, and their typical offerings. The ED Cinema two way made so much sense, and I was glad they finally went in that direction.Especially, when they were convinced to utilize the superb B&C DE250. Too bad they couldn't get their house in order. I never understood why one wouldn't simply use their normal/vertically oriented Cinema 12 as a center, .. unless of course vertical space was a premium. Several AVS'ers ordered the custom, side-to-side config'd design and I always thought they'd be better off with the normal model. .
In my primary home system, I've never used anything but three identical LCRs. And it seems as if oftentimes enthusiasts don't even consider it, ... they simply are conditioned to get a horizontally oriented design. To me, seems like the thing to do is get three identical mains, and make it happen.
Originally Posted by Mr.SoftDome
Of course a matching center that is identical to left/right is best but how many in this forum have a dedicated theater room to support this? I bet less than 10 percent. Most of us have to get by
I have quite a modest room, .. a typical residential, sprawling 70's era ranch home. We use our family room, which is 13'x25', and that includes an open kitchen to the rear. Point being, it's not a dedicated theater, yet I've always utilized three identical mains. Prior to the Catalysts, I had three identical 8" two ways, .. all even in a row established off the top of the display. Somewhat of a pro audio, or studio technique, above and aiming down and in ... all at the primary LP. Worked great with a variety of different two-ways I've owned or experimented with,.. I simply built three individual, .. simple yet stout brackets/shelves to the front wall, and used Mopads to isolate, and angle the speakers downward appropriately.
The height was just enough to allow the center to be above the then, 60" display. Currently, I've moved to a 65" Panny plasma, and my Seaton Cat12 center is horizontally oriented below the display, that's angled down somewhat and mounted to the wall on a robust, and very nice full motion articulating arm wall mount. It sticks out off the wall about two feet or so, enabling me to entirely cover the front wall in very thick absorption.Here
is the mount. It was the only one I found that I liked that allowed a great deal of space behind the display, and allows downward angling ... it's great. A bit scary having that big ass 65" plasma, dangling over the top of the Seaton Cat12C.
It doesn't take a dedicated room, or an AT screen, although those are clearly the ideal. My next upgrade is likely a projector, and AT screen. But the 65" plasma is superb, priorityo has always been my priority.
Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice
I was referring to the orientation of the speakers, and if he has the drivers on the horizontal plane he's inviting comb filtering and narrowed dispersion. If one is forced to have the drivers horizontal with the center because that's the only way it can physically fit then you have to live with it. But there's no reason to place the L/R horizontally, so don't.
The Catalysts I use, have a coaxial MF/HF, handing off to a pair of twelves downaround 180hz. So turning them on their side doesn't incur the troublesome lobing/comb-filtering that inflict other such design approaches.