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post #211 of 264
monkiboy,

I didnt read the last 2-3 pages in full. I am VERY interested in this new CA player to replace my 4010 Denon. What I NEED is that adjustable sync mode for the 7.1 analog inputs. I am running I think +120m/s on my denon and it is about perfect. With no sync mode, it is going to be terrible.

Did the new update allow this to be adjustable?

Thanks to anyone who knows.
post #212 of 264
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Originally Posted by MBarnesGT View Post

monkiboy,

I didnt read the last 2-3 pages in full. I am VERY interested in this new CA player to replace my 4010 Denon. What I NEED is that adjustable sync mode for the 7.1 analog inputs. I am running I think +120m/s on my denon and it is about perfect. With no sync mode, it is going to be terrible.

Did the new update allow this to be adjustable?

Thanks to anyone who knows.

It was the previous firmware update that included lipsync adjustment.

17th June 2013: 752BD(CU)-13-0604
2. Added a feature that allows the adjustment of the audio delay time within the range of -100ms to +100ms. This can be set in "Setup Menu"->"Audio Processing" -> "A/V Sync", and the delayed time will be applied to all output terminals including HDMI 1 and 2, Coaxial, Optical, and 7.1 outputs (including the Stereo outputs of the 752BD).

Hope this helps you.
post #213 of 264
yes,Oppo 105 weighs 17 lbs while CA 752 is around 11 lbs. Looks like it is based on 103 with improved DACs.P5zQBq
post #214 of 264
Anybody have any luck playing a > 2 TB hard drive on the 752BD? I just picked up a USB 3.0 4TB drive and I can' t get the player to recognize (yes, partitioned as either MBR or GPT). One issue is I still haven't upgraded the firmware basically beyond stock (due to other reasons at the moment)--would that fix anything? I do recall one of the FW upgrades was improved support for large capacity drives...so maybe it would?

I just wanted to add my 2 cents on FLAC playing. I am in awe at how well this plays the hi-res FLAC files. Some of my favorite seminal albums have been skillfully digitized into 24bit FLAC (up to 192k) and released by either HDtracks or to the underground world (one amazing Russian site in particular). That is basically 2ch DVD-Audio qualty! smile.gif

Now if I could just get it to recognize my 4TB drive, I'd be one happy camper...
post #215 of 264
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Originally Posted by omegajuicers View Post

yes,Oppo 105 weighs 17 lbs while CA 752 is around 11 lbs. Looks like it is based on 103 with improved DACs.P5zQBq

Yes the Cambridge is based on the BDP-103 with a different DAC implementation.smile.gif
post #216 of 264
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Originally Posted by scottm18 View Post

Anybody have any luck playing a > 2 TB hard drive on the 752BD? I just picked up a USB 3.0 4TB drive and I can' t get the player to recognize (yes, partitioned as either MBR or GPT). One issue is I still haven't upgraded the firmware basically beyond stock (due to other reasons at the moment)--would that fix anything? I do recall one of the FW upgrades was improved support for large capacity drives...so maybe it would?

I just wanted to add my 2 cents on FLAC playing. I am in awe at how well this plays the hi-res FLAC files. Some of my favorite seminal albums have been skillfully digitized into 24bit FLAC (up to 192k) and released by either HDtracks or to the underground world (one amazing Russian site in particular). That is basically 2ch DVD-Audio qualty! smile.gif

Now if I could just get it to recognize my 4TB drive, I'd be one happy camper...

Previous firmware might have addressed this issue too:

17th June 2013: 752BD(CU)-13-0604
13. Improved the support for large capacity external hard drives. The maximum size for a single partition can be up to 16 TB when using GPT partition table and NTFS or ExFAT file system.

Hope this helps.
post #217 of 264
I decided to keep firmware as is for now and just connect the big harddrive off my laptop (I value too many things they removed with the upgrades). Anybody try J River's media organizer/server MediaCenter program....and specifically the Gizmo phone app? If you arent all aware, unlike the previous generation Oppo/Cambridge player, this new version is a higher-tier Digital Media Renderer (DMR) in addition to a DMP (player). That means you can "Push" to the device in addtion to simply stream from DLNA servers. What that really means is Gizmo...one of the coolest phone apps around, giving complete control to your audio/video library, including album/video art sorting. And for once the definite preference for platform is Android over Apple. The JRiver app also supports cue sheets for the most part...one of the CA upgrades I was waiting for. This is what Gizmo looks like (yes, it's this slick)--and it's lightning fast too:

http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Gizmo

It's a bit quirky as many network apps are, but when it works it's pretty amazing. Give it a try for free and see what you think.
post #218 of 264
I got this player yesterday, and I wonder about the filter setings
What is the best filter for movies: Linear, minimum or steep?
post #219 of 264
Seriously considering pulling the trigger on one of these very soon. How do you like it so far? (I'm also considering the Oppo 105.)

I'm really torn between the two. My set-up is analog stereo audio only, no surround, nothing other than L-R. Never owned a Blu-Ray. Planning to run my set-top box in native mode to HDMI-IN. Just bought a few weeks ago a Vizio M-Series 60-inch set. Also, hopefully run the digital output of my Airport Express into digital audio in for iTunes sharing.


Thanks!
Edited by paul54 - 10/8/13 at 8:17am
post #220 of 264
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post

Seriously considering pulling the trigger on one of these very soon. How do you like it so far? (I'm also considering the Oppo 105.)

I'm really torn between the two. My set-up is analog stereo audio only, no surround, nothing other than L-R. Never owned a Blu-Ray. Planning to run my set-top box in native mode to HDMI-IN. Just bought a few weeks ago a Vizio M-Series 60-inch set. Also, hopefully run the digital output of my Airport Express into digital audio in for iTunes sharing.


Thanks!

Paul,

The Oppo BDP-105 will offer more features and beyond that it would depend on what sonics (DAC implementation) you prefer. If possible you would want to audition both in your setup. I know Oppo has a 30 day return policy and Crutchfield sales both players with a 60 day return period. All we can do here is offer you our subjective and some biased opinions.cool.gif Trust you ears.smile.gif
Edited by bakerwi - 10/9/13 at 7:14am
post #221 of 264
Thanks very much. Yes, I was already going to go the Crutchfield route. I'm leaning Oppo mostly because of the larger user base (and the support that creates in terms of questions, although I realize many will overlap with the CA) and the company's responsiveness to questions I've ALREADY posed to them.

Likely going to purchase tomorrow. Still not sure which…first(?)eek.gif
post #222 of 264
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Originally Posted by paul54 View Post

Thanks very much. Yes, I was already going to go the Crutchfield route. I'm leaning Oppo mostly because of the larger user base (and the support that creates in terms of questions, although I realize many will overlap with the CA) and the company's responsiveness to questions I've ALREADY posed to them.

Likely going to purchase tomorrow. Still not sure which…first(?)eek.gif

Paul,

Both players are excellent at what they do. My only experience with Cambridge is I presently own the Cambridge Azur 640C v2, which is quite good so I wouldn't expect anything less from the 752BD. Good luck.smile.gif
post #223 of 264
Thanks. I actually ended up going for the Oppo. Just ordered and should be delivered Monday.
post #224 of 264

Hi, first post here =)

 

Have anyone tried disabling subwoofer in the menus?

 

Im running a ht system without a sub, and I have a Parasound C2 processor which dont have DTS-HD and the other HD formats, so I need a bluray player that have atleast 5.1 analog out, and can mix the sub track/bass into the front speakers on bluray playback..

 

Is the 752bd the bluray for me?

 

Also, is this player region free on blurays? And capable of playing dual layer? My current Pioneer bdp-51fd sure isn't :P

post #225 of 264

Anyone? =)

post #226 of 264
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Originally Posted by tamw View Post

Hi, first post here =)

Have anyone tried disabling subwoofer in the menus?

Im running a ht system without a sub, and I have a Parasound C2 processor which dont have DTS-HD and the other HD formats, so I need a bluray player that have atleast 5.1 analog out, and can mix the sub track/bass into the front speakers on bluray playback..

Is the 752bd the bluray for me?

Also, is this player region free on blurays? And capable of playing dual layer? My current Pioneer bdp-51fd sure isn't :P

The 752BD has 2 channel, 5.1 and 7.1 analog out. Yes, you can disable the subwoofer and send the low frequencies to the mains. AS far as I know, all players can play dual layer discs. I don't believe it is region free, but I have not tried it.
post #227 of 264

Cammbridge Audio 752BD - Network abilities

Hello *!
I recently bought a CA Azur 752BD and now I try to play different files over my network.
I tried to play different file types.
WAV and FLAC or AIFF files are no problem. The UI shows them.
DFF, DSF and even CUE files are not shown by the UI.
When I copy them on a USB device or even when I burn them on a data disk (DVD) the UI shows everything and plays every file.
Is there someone who tried those kind of things?
Does anyone know a work around (other than having everything on a USB disk)?
Cheers
Alex
post #228 of 264
bitkrack - I am having the exact same problem. Mine wouldn't even recognize the FLAC on my network. At least it will recognize DFF and DSFs anf FLACs using a USB off my portable hard drive. It would be nice to just use the network. Since you sent your question three weeks ago now, I'm not encouraged anybody has the answer!
post #229 of 264
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Originally Posted by jake51 View Post

I got this player yesterday, and I wonder about the filter settings
What is the best filter for movies: Linear, minimum or steep?
Hey Jake As you've probably figured out by now, there isn't a straight answer for that. The sound changes can be sublte unless you are already aware of that level of sound coming from CDs. CD sound can bother me (compressed, shrill) so I appreciate the filters. I find the filters are most effective correcting sound deficits of older AAD CDs. Modern, well mastered CDs and BRDs don't seem to need anythng other than the line. On those it seems best to my ear, in my system.
post #230 of 264
I prefer the "Minimum" setting with the Stream Magic 6 (music only obviously) if that helps.
post #231 of 264
Hi guys. Brought home my 752bd tonight, and managed to have a bit of a play, but a couple of questions have emerged. I'm ruining HD audio and video via hdmi. That's all good, but I want to run stereo to my avr for music files either from cds or shared from my NAS. First question is how do I make sure music is sent via the rcas and not the HDMI.

The second question is potentially more about my avr, but someone here might be able to help. As I have the 752s hdmi connected to the Bluray input I the denon, and the rcas connected to CD, when I switch to the CD channel on the avr to play music, I loose video. I need the video to be able to search my media, but the avr won't allow the hdmi coming from the 752 to be used for both the CD and the Bluray channels. Any advice? Can I maybe connect another form of video output from the 752 to the avr for the CD channel?
Edited by lcslattery - 12/4/13 at 4:32pm
post #232 of 264
I am currently using an OPPO BDP-83, and in the next couple weeks I plan to purchase a Cambridge Audio Azur 751R receiver. I was wondering, would I get a noticeable improvement in audio quality, if I replaced my OPPO with the 752BD? The Cambridge receiver already does 24-bit/192kHz up-sampling, so would it be pointless to purchase a blu-ray player that does the same thing? I am not currently concerned about 3D or 4K, because my projector only does 1080p, and it will be a couple years before I even consider replacing it.
post #233 of 264
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Originally Posted by pbmax542 View Post

I am currently using an OPPO BDP-83, and in the next couple weeks I plan to purchase a Cambridge Audio Azur 751R receiver. I was wondering, would I get a noticeable improvement in audio quality, if I replaced my OPPO with the 752BD? The Cambridge receiver already does 24-bit/192kHz up-sampling, so would it be pointless to purchase a blu-ray player that does the same thing? I am not currently concerned about 3D or 4K, because my projector only does 1080p, and it will be a couple years before I even consider replacing it.

I would say if the DAC implementation in the 751R is comparable to 752BD, then I would say go with the 751R as all your other components would benefit from its audio quality. As far as a noticeable improvement between the BDP-83 and the 752BD only your ears would be able to tell you if it is noticeable.smile.gif
post #234 of 264
is 752BD support HDMI pass thru? My setop has HDMI output, I want to connect it to 752BD, while I am just watching TV, I can turn off 752BD.
post #235 of 264
Hi,
does anybody have the previous firmware? EU-Player/RegionB?
My 752 with Bluraychip.dk Multiregion free Pro Kit does not change the BR Region Code any more with the new FW (FW 752BD-15-1204).
I hope that it could be possible to install the previous firmware version (but I dont know-if it is possible).
Regards
Andreas
post #236 of 264
Just thought I would add a few comments on my experience with the 752bd of issues which are not commonly seen in the reviews or marketing collateral.

I use the 752bd primarily for streaming video and music from my local WHS v1 and windows 8.1 servers using DLNA and UMS (Universal Media Server) over a Gb network. I had to create my own device configuration for the UMS access - see the UMS forum - http://www.universalmediaserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1585. I have set my UMS playback settings to lossless. It handles all my file types (mp4. m2ts, ts, mkv, avi, flac etc) natively with no rendering requirement - the PS3 has limited codec support. This places much less strain on the server. The 752bd also seems to place less demands on the network than the PS3.

I get 10 items per page as opposed to 12 for the PS3. The 752bd does not display thumbnails - just the file name and media type. When you pause on a file the 752db also tries to display the file duration and resolution. The 752bd network media scroll access is not as fast as the PS3 but you do get a page down / page up function to scroll through the entries. You can also jump to a row number using the 'goto' function. It does not display thumbnails but just the name and media codec. When you go back to the main network page it does take sometime (5 seconds?) identifying all the online media sources. I use HDMI to connect the PS3 and 752bd to my receiver (currently an Onkyo 708) and the quality of both the sound and video are a significant improvement on the PS3. The sound has much greater transparency increased dynamics and wider spatial awareness. A lot of my media is ripped bluray files of size 10GB to 40GB. The video is 'jitter' free. Network speeds peak 50mb/s for the 40GB playback and 10Mb/s for the 10GB playback. This is a lot less than the PS3. I have purchased a 751r and expect an even greater improvement in sound and picture once I set it up.

I have also tried the SMB/CIFS network connection. This works fine for WHS but I have had no luck with Windows 8.1. The directory access is a lot smoother and faster than the UMS DLNA, video is about the same, and the sound seems to have better dynamics.

I have also connected my Sky cable box to the 752db for playback through the Onkyo 708 rather than going direct to the Onkyo. The improvement in the PQ and sound are remarkable.

Re an earlier post I intend to use the 7.1 output of the 7752bd to the 751r (once I have the cables and the 751r is configured) rather than the current HDMI to the Onkyo.

Note I also have a HTPC using r9 720 GPU and Mediabrowser3 theatre using MPC player, Madvr upscaling, LAV codecs and reclock for 24fps playback .I would say the video quality is on a par with the 752bd but the sound (HDMI to the Onkyo) is significantly lacking. I am looking forward to see if the 751r to the HTPC using HDMI is as good as the 752bd.

Note I manage all devices using a Logitech harmony remote for one touch access to either Sky or local media. It's still early days but I am having difficulty getting the 752bd to start on the network setting. The 752bd takes a while to initialise before it will accept commands from the remote. The 752bd access is not as responsive as the PS3 with the result my family still prefers the PS3 for local file streaming. However, they all agree the 752bd is a significant improvement in picture and sound.
post #237 of 264
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Originally Posted by esixty View Post

is 752BD support HDMI pass thru? ... while I am just watching TV, I can turn off 752BD.

Huh? You just answered your own question?
post #238 of 264
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Originally Posted by TripleFun View Post

... not commonly seen in the reviews or marketing collateral.

LOL @ auto-correct.

Your system seems very complex and probably pushes the BD player beyond what most users could even comprehend. I have to wonder why you don't just stick with HTPC or PS3.

But then you say sound quality is somehow improved by the BD. Are you using the analog outputs to your amp? You mentioned using HDMI to an Onkyo... in that scenario it makes no sense that sound would be different than your computers (unless they are not properly playing the lossless soundtracks).
post #239 of 264
Anyone using this unit as pre-amp ?

If so how do you correct the -10dB (or -15 with the player's bass management enabled) on the SW analog out ?
Edited by Rogier75 - 2/12/14 at 7:46am
post #240 of 264
One thing that does concern me is how quickly CA stops issuing firmware updates. For the 751, the last update was May 2012. People that own that player are going to have serious problems playing newer BD's, as they are released, IMO.
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