HDHomeRun Dual for FIOS?

Your HDHR Dual should be fine. FiOS has the locals in ClearQAM.

Both Cable and FiOS have bene given the green light by the FCC to encrypt those.

I'm pretty sure they will too.

That is why I bought an antenna and have considered building one too....

I am still going to subscribe to FiOS, but use Ceton for the encrypted channels (which is EVERYTHING but the locals, which are available with the antenna anyway), like now, and instead of using SDHR's for the ClearQAM, I will switch them over to ATSC.

Anytime the provider decides to do it as they have the green light now.

I have a dual (ATSC) and a 3 tuner CC. I'm on FiOS. The dual does not see any channels on the FiOS cable, so I have it on an attic antenna. YMMV.

Understood. The Dual worked when I had Time Warner cable (different house) on the ClearQAM channels. I used a Happague PVR-150 and an ATI Home Theater Pro 650 for the analog channels and one ClearQAM channel. But, now that I'm on FiOS, no channels detected by my dual.

Verizon charges me $3 per month for my cable card. Seems to be a rip off, but oh well.

Don't you think they should be able to recoup the cost of the CableCARD and support required for it?

Plus I don't know what verizon needs to develop software or 3rd party licensing solutions for. The 3rd parties like SiliconDust and ceton do that.

They are charging me plenty for my TV service. $3 for the card seems a bit nickel and dime, that's all. With any luck, they will never have to support it either.

I doubt Verizon had anything to do with the development of my HDHR.

I think these cards cost around $100. Charter charges $2/mo. I have had to have support a few times to get it re-paired too. Paying $2/mo instead of the $20/mo DVR "fee" on top of $5/mo per STB doesn't bother me.

For cable there is an incentive as they can encrypt locals at the head end, shutting down passive theft of locals for internet-only subscribers or for unsubscribed customers that they never bothered to physically disconnect. I know around here Comcast hasn't bothered to filter locals when I've subscribed off and on to internet-only service over the years. And last I checked, they've never actually disconnected my line when I dropped their cable service well over a year ago and returned my cable modem.

With FiOS though, if you don't subscribe to at least locals they can just turn off the RF overlay giving you no TV period. No unnecessary encryption equipment needed at the head end. No need for basic converters to decrypt basic channels. No passive theft. It does come with the down side of not having a few dollars a month revenue stream for a small subset of the subscribers, but honestly it's probably a wash when you factor in the hassles in keeping track of all of it.

That's different if it is correct. I would have guessed they were $5.

What is passive theft? There's stealing and then there's paying for something you receive but nothing is passive about theft.

Passive theft is what the movie studios have done to the american public by having the FCC trample on our fair use rights while they sit back and laugh like Satan while raking in mass profits from unfair and unjust rules.

I recently connected an HDHR-dual to FiOS here in Sothern New Jersey (yeah it sucks). I was really surprised at that all the local channels QAM channels were unencrypted. My original plan was to connect this tuner to an antenna. (I want to mothball my Hauppaug 2250)
I now realize that it is possible to have both a HDHR3-CC and HDHR and have five streams of video with FiOS. Statistically it would be unlikely that one would require more than three encrypted channels at one time.

If and when Verizon encrypts local channels, the HDHR will get connected to the antenna.
BTW: My CC rental is $3.99

That is called manipulation of copyright laws. There's no reason that Disney's mouse should be copyrighted forever (99 years is beyond the life-span of most everyone so it is practically forever). The constitution says "for a limited time". 99 years is beyond the intention of that. It was not passive at all on their part. They were quite proactive in getting the laws written this way.

I was being somewhat sarcastic