Originally Posted by Doug Blackburn
What the HECK is "less aggressive gamma tracking"???? You are making things up.
Maby David´s "hammering" is better term
I´m just DIY rookie calibrator so sorry if I mix things
Just noticed with my´n set that you get flatten base gamma with lower cell light and higher contrast settings, and because gamma seems to change depending what kind of APL patterns to use then if hammered it with 10-point to track with one APL it don´t serve with other...well however that´s just too frustrating for me. If there´s one and only correct APL pattern for calibration that model I would be glad to hear that
I´m good to go with AVS HD APL patterns (small windows) and happy with them, at least it looks good by eyes.
Originally Posted by hungro
Remember the rules of contrast, no pinking or discoloration, no clipping and no eye strain then your good to go . Use a white clipping pattern. When you had contrast at 98 for the one example that is already to high and you are pinking. For the samsung d series it is best to keep contrast at 95 or below but not lower then 90 let's say to keep the 10pt aligned
. Having a lower contrast can be done but then you need to play around with a grey ramp to see where the 10pt shifted too. I think it's more trouble then it's worth in my opinion , more frustration in the equation.
Thanks hungro, pinking is totally new term for me, any link for explanation?
Sure I always measure near white for no clipping any white levels.
Bolded text from your answer seems to be the whole case why use lower Cell Light value, if your peak white target is 35ftL / 120cd/m2 it´s must to lower Cell Light at least with PS64E8000 with latest FW to keep contrast with higher level because of less hammering 10-point
Originally Posted by Doug Blackburn
You do NOT tweak gamma by using the Cell Light control which... (why this is so difficult to understand, I'll never know) the MANUFACTUTER'S technical spokesperson said is not
a control that is useful for anything
-- Cell Light only exists to allow Samsung to maintain identical menu structures for LCD and plasma TVs.
Thanks for info, yes read before that one person from Samsung told that.
Earlier also with PS64E8000 peak white with Movie mode was limited
to something like 31.8ftL / 109cd/m2 but not anymore, maby Samsung didn´t examine enough how it affects to performance when they released new FW which removed limit and now you can get 50.4ftL / 170cd/m2 with same Movie mode.
Somehow it´s hard to believe it´s just and only control over contrast because why it cause behavior like this. If results would be same with same light output if you use e.g. 20 / 83 or 16 / 95 then I would accept that.And yes, now I know behavior is totally different than with 2013 Panasonic´s Panel Luminance Setting.
Screen fit (disabled overscan) for external 720p signal (cable receiver) is working but with internal dvb-c tuner with same 720p signal that´s not working(option is grayed), "That´s not fault but feature" said also person from Samsung to me
I wonder why they don´t let us disable overscan also with SD-material like you can do with Panasonic models.
Here is newest measurements and settings (comments are however mostly in finnish
Open with latest build of HCFR
Samsung PS64E8000 calibration.zip 146k .zip file
"Samsung PS64E8005 130h 2D Movie calibrated with GCD Disk APL Pana1 matrix.chc" show with GCD disk adjusted Primaries and Secondaries dE´s wrong because used AVS HD after that"Samsung PS64E8005 135h 2D Movie calibrated with AVS HD Disk APL Pana1 matrix.chc" is mode which I use most.
btw, One thing you should notice is (at least with European models) Samsung´s ABL behavior
and someones have report that using lower Cell Light is also somekind of cure to that. I assume it´s same case with E8000 than E6500, don´t have Klein K10-A to measure that.http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-ps60e6500-ps51e6500-201207262022.htm?page=PerformanceEdited by Make73 - 4/14/13 at 2:06am