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Eshift or eshift2

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I'm in the market for my first projector ( don't need it before may) and leaning towards JVC because 2d pq is my main priority.

I have come across some deeply discounted eshift1 units nib. Which one is better is there a major difference.

I will be pairing with a 2.35 120-125" dia. Screen in a dedicated theater.


Thanks in advance

Mike
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Originally Posted by MYHOMETHEATER View Post

I'm in the market for my first projector ( don't need it before may) and leaning towards JVC because 2d pq is my main priority.

I have come across some deeply discounted eshift1 units nib. Which one is better is there a major difference.

I will be pairing with a 2.35 120-125" dia. Screen in a dedicated theater.


Thanks in advance

Mike

I would not use E-shift 1 vs E-shift 2 as the deciding factor. There is not enough difference between the two to really matter. To me the differences to consider are the lamp improvement, lamp warranty, price and re-sale value. If you are considering the 4810, then also need to factor in the extra year of warranty.
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post #3 of 9
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So what's the lamp differences? I'm not worried about resale value just pq
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The older jvc models had lamp issues, they started to dim quicker than they should have. The current jvc models are holding up better. I had the RS55 last year and now the RS48. The RS55 is a slightly better, but not very noticeable. If you had both side by side, maybe you can tell the difference. The 55 had better contrast, however, they look extremely similar to my eyes. If I had to choose between the two it will be the RS48 or 4810, which are the same protector, and they can most likely be found cheaper than a used 55. The RS48/4810 has better 3D and a better lamp that is rated at 4000hrs.
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So what's the lamp differences? I'm not worried about resale value just pq

I am curious about the lamp differences as well? I thought it was the RS50/40 year model that had the bulk of the problems?

Also, anyone care to chime in on eshift and eshift2? Most complaints I saw about eshift2 were tied to a bluray player setting or setting on the PJ producing weird artifacts - though Zombie documented his eshift being better than the eshift2 unit he had. Advance reports were eshift2 was much better than eshift but I have not seen user reports confirming this?
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I am curious about the lamp differences as well? I thought it was the RS50/40 year model that had the bulk of the problems?

Also, anyone care to chime in on eshift and eshift2? Most complaints I saw about eshift2 were tied to a bluray player setting or setting on the PJ producing weird artifacts - though Zombie documented his eshift being better than the eshift2 unit he had. Advance reports were eshift2 was much better than eshift but I have not seen user reports confirming this?

The RS40/50/60 shipped with version 1 lamps. Those lamps had a fair amount of problems.
The RS45/55/65 shipped with version 2 lamps. Those lamps had some problems, but much better.
The version 3 lamps are what were sold (at least by us) January 2012. These lamps had few problems.

The RS46/4810/56/66 have an all new lamp and we have not had a single issue with a lamp.
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

The RS40/50/60 shipped with version 1 lamps. Those lamps had a fair amount of problems.
The RS45/55/65 shipped with version 2 lamps. Those lamps had some problems, but much better.
The version 3 lamps are what were sold (at least by us) January 2012. These lamps had few problems.

The RS46/4810/56/66 have an all new lamp and we have not had a single issue with a lamp.

That is GREAT news! smile.gif

Any opinion on eshift and eshift2?
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Originally Posted by GoCaboNow View Post

I am curious about the lamp differences as well? I thought it was the RS50/40 year model that had the bulk of the problems?

Also, anyone care to chime in on eshift and eshift2? Most complaints I saw about eshift2 were tied to a bluray player setting or setting on the PJ producing weird artifacts - though Zombie documented his eshift being better than the eshift2 unit he had. Advance reports were eshift2 was much better than eshift but I have not seen user reports confirming this?

I have a rev2 JVC lamp in my RS55 and haven't had any issues with it. The Rev 3 with the flapper has been out for a while and I haven't seen an early dimming lamp complaint in quite a while. There was a time when the threads were on fire with this issue.

After studying e-shift 1 and 2 close up, I understand why the early impressions from the trade shows was that it's 'better'. It's the same reason reality creation had such a positive reaction. Some of the settings are 'overcooked' which looks great from a distance, but upon closer inspection, some would want to turn these settings down to something more reasonable.

Even before the MPC sharpening, something has changed between e-shift 1 and 2. it's not major, but I am able to see the difference in a direct A/B. When I had the 4810 and 55 side by side, I could work with the various e-shift 2 settings to get it to a closer match. However, something during the actual e-shift process has changed and the rendering of the overlapped images is a bit different which i've demonstrated in the various photos.

obviously I'm being picky here, but would have been fine if they left the current models with the older e-shift 1 process.

so everyone is clear, e-shift 2 looks very good, I just personally prefer e-shift 1.
post #9 of 9
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Well, I pulled the trigger after speaking with mike from avs sales and purchased an rs4810 at a great price :-) can't wait to move into our new home and fire it up.
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