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post #31 of 189
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

As long as we're doing it, here's mine:



The case is so heavy I already broke one of the casters.eek.gif

Hey I have the same case! You're right, it's heavy. Luckily my casters haven't broken yet. I'm sure it's just an inevitability.
post #32 of 189
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Originally Posted by Rugrash View Post

I think it would be easier to swallow the price, if the Titan were using a chip that was designed from the ground up, instead of a sub par/rejected chip from the Tesla K20X.

Linus Tech tips recently released a video showing that two 660Ti GPUs were comparible to the Titan at almost half of the price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix-2xPTSXm4&list=UUXuqSBlHAE6Xw-yeJA0Tunw&index=10

Of course the argument for using a single Titan versus the headaches/compatibility of SLI setups is very valid

Nvidia to me seems to be sketchy, now that they seem to be shifting focus to phones and cars.

I hope the Titans work out well for you.

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Originally Posted by Rugrash View Post

I wouldn't hold my breath while waiting for that driver.

Out of all the years that I have read the Nvidia forums , the last 6 months have been the worst for reported problems.

I surmise that some of their programmers have either left or been repurposed and the remaining are either incompetent or overworked.

Hmmm... ATI Fanboi? Troll?

Out of all the years I read the ATI/AMD forums, the last 10 years have been the worst. Drivers drivers drivers.

Maybe there are more problems posts because there are now 10 million more people using nVidia cards. They got fed up with CCC so they've joined the bright side.

And what are these SLI "headaches" you speak of?
post #33 of 189
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Originally Posted by rich3fan View Post


Hmmm... ATI Fanboi? Troll?

Out of all the years I read the ATI/AMD forums, the last 10 years have been the worst. Drivers drivers drivers.

Maybe there are more problems posts because there are now 10 million more people using nVidia cards. They got fed up with CCC so they've joined the bright side.

And what are these SLI "headaches" you speak of?

You do realize the irony in your post, right?

There is no reason to turn the thread into another red vs green battle. wink.gif

Jason
post #34 of 189
Agreed.

I shoot from the hip. wink.gif
post #35 of 189
Thread Starter 
I'll be picking one up next time they come into stock at Newegg. I can only afford 1 card right now, but it should be faster than 3 of my 6950s in Tri-Crossfire anyways.
post #36 of 189
I actually cancelled my order for my Titans. There are some serious rumors flying around about the possibility of MSI lightning versions. Of course there are many saying it's not gonna happen but there have been some pretty reliable sources saying otherwise. I didn't want to take the chance that their may be lightnings up coming, so I've decided to hold off until CeBit at least to see if any of the rumors are true. I have no problems waiting a few more weeks to grab my 2. There have been some accounts of OC throttling over 1100 core speeds. Custom bios's have already begun surfacing and are looking extremely promising. The 265 tdp limit looks to be thrown out the window and since Nvidia is allowing overvolting this time around, I can't see why companys like MSI can not make a lightning or similar.
post #37 of 189
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

I actually cancelled my order for my Titans. There are some serious rumors flying around about the possibility of MSI lightning versions. Of course there are many saying it's not gonna happen but there have been some pretty reliable sources saying otherwise. I didn't want to take the chance that their may be lightnings up coming, so I've decided to hold off until CeBit at least to see if any of the rumors are true. I have no problems waiting a few more weeks to grab my 2. There have been some accounts of OC throttling over 1100 core speeds. Custom bios's have already begun surfacing and are looking extremely promising. The 265 tdp limit looks to be thrown out the window and since Nvidia is allowing overvolting this time around, I can't see why companys like MSI can not make a lightning or similar.
Thanks. I can wait a few days to find out what's up.
post #38 of 189
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Since the MSI card was a no-show at CEBIT I went ahead and ordered an EVGA Superclocked card @ Tigerdirect. I went through Mr. Rebates so I should save an extra 6% ($61).

Now I have to start saving for my 2nd card...biggrin.gif
post #39 of 189
A funny note on the Nvidia drivers comment.....about a year and a half ago, Nvidias drivers mysteriously (might be 2 years now actually) stopped supporting my monitor.

For no reason that anyone could deduce, 1080p would produce garbage on my screen....basically diagonal lines, as though something in the signal was reading the EDID or something incorrectly, it was truly bizarre. Games would run, but the display would show diagonal lines of gibberish. Occasionally I could get away with going to windowed mode, boom...graphics appear. Sometimes I could go back......and have a functioning game, other times it would go back to gibberish. I decided not to mess about with timings in the Nvidia drivers.

I stayed on old drivers as long as I could before having to "move up" as games wouldn't work or ran like ass using older software......the only solution was to first create a 1916x1080 desktop resolution, disable scaling, and use that rez. Every game would start up, I'd have to go into an INI or CFG to force a 1916x1080 res, and the games would work as expected. But it was frustrating. Some games (rarely) would run normally at 1080p. Other games that didn't allow me to dick around with an ini (Darksiders) simply wouldn't work as I couldn't see the screen to set the game to use a lower rez....and who wants to play a game with scaling? or with windowboxing....right.

With the release of the 314's......the problem MYSTERIOUSLY corrected itself smile.gif

All of a sudden everything went back to normal......1080p games worked fine, no gibberish, no timing issues, no new hardware.....just....crap just worked again.

Its almost as though when they were working through the drivers, someone noticed that one bit that was set by some guy who was long gone and went "why the hell did they do that?..here let me change that value". Boom, fully functioning again.

The funny part? The day the drivers came out I took delivery on the replacement for that monitor (a Panasonic 37" 1080p set I'm using right now) with modern contrast ratios and gamma settings......

But seriously, yeah...Nvidia was great at cranking out drivers, but around the time they started to include Ambient Occlusion for all games (290.xx ish??) it all went to crap for me. Let's hope the Titans get the support they need.
post #40 of 189
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Originally Posted by HeadRusch View Post

The day the drivers came out I took delivery on the replacement for that monitor (a Panasonic 37" 1080p set I'm using right now) with modern contrast ratios and gamma settings......

What Panny did you get?
post #41 of 189
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

2 x 690's do not scale well in games or in any situation, quad SLI is not very good. 2 x Titans will outperform 2 x 690's because they scale much better. the 690's only having 2 gig vram is a limitation that will be something that I don't want to run into. People seem to forget that the OC ability of the titans is very good, A reviewer friend of mine was saying to expect about a 15-20% OC on air and around 30% on water. Taking into that, current first gen drivers and the amount of vram vs the 690's? I'm happy to pay for 2. Do I need that my HP? no but who cares, I won't have to buy a card for years!

Edit: Microstuttering is most definitely still a problem and SLI'd titans have pretty much none. 690's on the other hand.... mad.gif.

I'm sure you thought the same thing last year with your 690s lol. It's impossible to keep up with the pc world.

Even then. Next years GPUs will make the Titan look like outdated junk frown.gif
post #42 of 189
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I just hope the Titan supports bitstreaming over HDMI.
post #43 of 189
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I just hope the Titan supports bitstreaming over HDMI.
It does smile.gif
post #44 of 189
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

I'm sure you thought the same thing last year with your 690s lol. It's impossible to keep up with the pc world.

Even then. Next years GPUs will make the Titan look like outdated junk frown.gif

Well to be honest, I said that as knowing full well, I'll buy whatever comes out next hahaha. I did end up cancelling my order in hoping that the MSI lightning versions would be coming out at Cebit but they were a no show. Not sure what I'm going to do now. From the MSI forums, there is still some hope in the next 2 weeks, I'll decide then.
post #45 of 189
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

Well to be honest, I said that as knowing full well, I'll buy whatever comes out next hahaha. I did end up cancelling my order in hoping that the MSI lightning versions would be coming out at Cebit but they were a no show. Not sure what I'm going to do now. From the MSI forums, there is still some hope in the next 2 weeks, I'll decide then.
Why pay for an over clock you can do yourself? Wasted money IMO. I could have easily gotten the signature sc version. But I see no point in paying for something you can do for free. I'm not sure if ill buy whatever comes out next year. Then again. I said the same thing last year. Guess ill know when the time comes.
post #46 of 189
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Why pay for an over clock you can do yourself? Wasted money IMO. I could have easily gotten the signature sc version. But I see no point in paying for something you can do for free. I'm not sure if ill buy whatever comes out next year. Then again. I said the same thing last year. Guess ill know when the time comes.

The better question is why upgrade every 6-12 months when one already has enough juice to run any damn game on the planet... the obvious answer there is that some people are just obsessive about being cutting edge.

It's that upgrade disease that so many of us suffer from in one capacity or another, many of us want the new shiny toy and some don't care what it costs to get there. biggrin.gif

The one I don't get is watches. wink.gif

Jason
post #47 of 189
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The better question is why upgrade every 6-12 months when one already has enough juice to run any damn game on the planet... the obvious answer there is that some people are just obsessive about being cutting edge.

It's that upgrade disease that so many of us suffer from in one capacity or another, many of us want the new shiny toy and some don't care what it costs to get there. biggrin.gif

The one I don't get is watches. wink.gif

Jason
It ain't cheap that's for sure lol. Always wanted the highest performance you can get. In all honestly. This Titan is a beast. I'm loving it. If next gen stuff next year beats it. ( which I'm sure it will ) I hope they use this same design. And a damn back plate for cryin out loud.
post #48 of 189
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The better question is why upgrade every 6-12 months when one already has enough juice to run any damn game on the planet... the obvious answer there is that some people are just obsessive about being cutting edge.

It's that upgrade disease that so many of us suffer from in one capacity or another, many of us want the new shiny toy and some don't care what it costs to get there. biggrin.gif

The one I don't get is watches. wink.gif

Jason

Perhaps, not necessarily. Depends what your setup is. For example, I run a Surround (Triple Monitor) setup...when you run games at 5790x1200 you need the extra juice to run things at max. If you are on single monitor, sure there's nothing out there you can't max.
post #49 of 189
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The better question is why upgrade every 6-12 months when one already has enough juice to run any damn game on the planet... the obvious answer there is that some people are just obsessive about being cutting edge.

It's that upgrade disease that so many of us suffer from in one capacity or another, many of us want the new shiny toy and some don't care what it costs to get there. biggrin.gif

The one I don't get is watches. wink.gif

Jason

You try playing crysis 3 on max settings?

Even 3 titans would barley be enough to satisfy me.

Even at my single monitor resolution of 2560x1080 I would need 3 to be about 60fps min.

You would need about 9 sli'ed titans for a triple monitor setup. wink.gif

Or even 12 for a 4K setup!!!

We have a very very long way to go in video performance yet.

4K gaming would kill the frame rate of games at max settings.
Edited by SOWK - 3/17/13 at 6:04am
post #50 of 189
Two titans would be more then enough for triple screen set up.
post #51 of 189
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Why pay for an over clock you can do yourself? Wasted money IMO. I could have easily gotten the signature sc version. But I see no point in paying for something you can do for free. I'm not sure if ill buy whatever comes out next year. Then again. I said the same thing last year. Guess ill know when the time comes.

umm lightning's "could" have unlocked voltage and an unlocked bios. It has nothing to do with clock speed. Nvidia has put a stop to unlocked voltages but theres a good possibility that they may allow the lightning to be factory unlocled like the old lightnings. BTW the SC version has the exact same clock as the regular stock card. It just gives you a few extra goodies in the box.
So in all fairness, no it's not a waste of money "IF" Nvidia lets 3rd party companys ship cards with unlocked voltages such as the lightning.
post #52 of 189
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

The better question is why upgrade every 6-12 months when one already has enough juice to run any damn game on the planet... the obvious answer there is that some people are just obsessive about being cutting edge.

It's that upgrade disease that so many of us suffer from in one capacity or another, many of us want the new shiny toy and some don't care what it costs to get there. biggrin.gif

The one I don't get is watches. wink.gif

Jason

Why upgrade? Why not? If someone has the money, who's to tell them what to do with it. You've got to remember, 2K to lots of people is not a lot of money.
post #53 of 189
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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

umm lightning's "could" have unlocked voltage and an unlocked bios. It has nothing to do with clock speed. Nvidia has put a stop to unlocked voltages but theres a good possibility that they may allow the lightning to be factory unlocled like the old lightnings. BTW the SC version has the exact same clock as the regular stock card. It just gives you a few extra goodies in the box.
So in all fairness, no it's not a waste of money "IF" Nvidia lets 3rd party companys ship cards with unlocked voltages such as the lightning.

Still a waste of money IMO. As there is always away around it. And the Signature SC is just an overclock you pay for.
post #54 of 189
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Still a waste of money IMO. As there is always away around it. And the Signature SC is just an overclock you pay for.

The SC titan was not overclocked. The only difference between the 3 versions is the swag you get in the box, although this may have changed, it wasn't the case at release. Having the lightning with an unlocked voltage is crazy huge for any oc'r. Whether or not you think it's a waste of money is moot. For someone who want's to OC the crap out of their cards, you HAVE to have unlocked voltage. Look at the price of the first gen 680 lightnings, they sell used for close to what they cost new, even a year old. Flashing your bios voids you warranty, with the lightnings, there is no need to flash your bios to unlock for voltage, that in it's self is well worth the extra $70 for the card as well as the after market cooling. If you plan on OC'ing a lot, it's a must have feature.
post #55 of 189
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

You try playing crysis 3 on max settings?

Even 3 titans would barley be enough to satisfy me.

Even at my single monitor resolution of 2560x1080 I would need 3 to be about 60fps min.

You would need about 9 sli'ed titans for a triple monitor setup. wink.gif

Or even 12 for a 4K setup!!!

We have a very very long way to go in video performance yet.

4K gaming would kill the frame rate of games at max settings.


LOL, You jumped right in there, you do realize you helped to prove my point regarding wanting to be cutting edge with the shiny new toys ( single 2560x1080 display... http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&sku=225-4201 ). wink.gif


I play Crysis 3 on max settings (other than don't use 8xMSAA) and run it in the 40's @ 1080p on a GTX 680oc. Sure I would like 60 fps but it plays just fine with no jerky framerate and I see no point in investing thousands for a single game that will likely be better optimized in the near future.

However Crysis 3 is terribly optimized and much of the reason for the performance (or lack of). This is the only game out there at the moment that I cannot run pegged and get 60 fps and it appears to be like that for many .


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Originally Posted by N8DOGG View Post

Why upgrade? Why not? If someone has the money, who's to tell them what to do with it. You've got to remember, 2K to lots of people is not a lot of money.

Ummm, I said nothing about telling anyone what to do with their own money and recently brought that to another AVS'ers attention for them doing exactly that..? confused.gif


Some of you guys are way too defensive, buy whatever you want, but just because you see value in frequent pc upgrades does not mean everyone else does and also does not have anything to do with disposable income (some just make different choices and have different priorities, thus my comment regarding watches). wink.gif



*Oh and for what it's worth guys, those are some bad-ass shiny new toys. biggrin.gif

Jason



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Edited by DaGamePimp - 3/17/13 at 11:25pm
post #56 of 189
Titan can run Crysis Max settings SMAA1
post #57 of 189
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Why pay for an over clock you can do yourself? Wasted money IMO. I could have easily gotten the signature sc version. But I see no point in paying for something you can do for free. I'm not sure if ill buy whatever comes out next year. Then again. I said the same thing last year. Guess ill know when the time comes.

I bought the FTW version of my 670 because it uses the 680 board and provides better cooling. The stock 670's don't do that.
post #58 of 189
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Originally Posted by Bai Shen View Post

I bought the FTW version of my 670 because it uses the 680 board and provides better cooling. The stock 670's don't do that.
I was pretty sure all 670s use the 680 board.
post #59 of 189
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

I was pretty sure all 670s use the 680 board.

Nope. The 670 board is several inches shorter. The cards seem the same length because the blower hangs off the end. You can see it here.

post #60 of 189
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Originally Posted by Bai Shen View Post

Nope. The 670 board is several inches shorter. The cards seem the same length because the blower hangs off the end. You can see it here.

Damn. I never knew that. It fooled me!

So. What's everyone's opinion on the Titan being what the 680 should have been. They had it the entire time?
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