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post #61 of 168
3/18/13 at 6:49pm
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Damn. I never knew that. It fooled me!

So. What's everyone's opinion on the Titan being what the 680 should have been. They had it the entire time?

They have had it for a while with the 110, obviously the 680 is 104 so it's probably safe to say they had a master plan for a while and it likely took them longer to get it to market.

It's funny that the Titan initial release was within a few months of AMD taking the crown back as the fastest over-all single gpu, I'm sure that lit some fires over at Nvidia.

The Titan is a beast, saw it running at Fry's over the weekend and it is impressive other than the investment (I don't think it should be more than $800).

What I am wondering is if AMD has a single gpu answer for the Titan..?

Jason



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post #62 of 168
3/18/13 at 11:00pm
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They have had it for a while with the 110, obviously the 680 is 104 so it's probably safe to say they had a master plan for a while and it likely took them longer to get it to market.

It's funny that the Titan initial release was within a few months of AMD taking the crown back as the fastest over-all single gpu, I'm sure that lit some fires over at Nvidia.

The Titan is a beast, saw it running at Fry's over the weekend and it is impressive other than the investment (I don't think it should be more that $800).

What I am wondering is if AMD has a single gpu answer for the Titan..?

Jason
Based on what I read before the new Kepler and Tahiti cards came out. It's doubtful AMD was holding onto something waiting for Nvidia to stick again.

I remember Nvidia saying they had a card that would literally blow away AMDs 7970. The 680 in no way "blew away" the competition. It just beat it. My guess was that original statement was meant for the Titan. If anything the 680 was suppose to be the 660ti or 670 and Titan was 680.

Now honestly imagine that for a second. That would seriously destroy anything AMD had put out this year. But instead they decided to make their middle tier card become their flagship card which gave them the ability to drive up the price on all their cards.

As for the value of the Titan I don't think it should be over 850. But in the end I still paid the hundred and 50 more than when I felt it was worth because in the end it really is a pretty good card. And I really don't want to go back to SLI.
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post #63 of 168
3/19/13 at 1:28pm
Dave I got the 37" Panasonic Viera..something something.....
http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-L37E5-37-Inch-LED-LCD/dp/B00752R8KG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363724874&sr=8-1&keywords=37%22+viera

This one, except when I bought mine a few weeks ago it was $464 :P
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post #64 of 168
3/19/13 at 1:48pm
Throw that tv away and get yourself a decent monitor son!
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post #65 of 168
3/19/13 at 4:40pm
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I got my Titan today. It's about as fast as my 3 overclocked 6950s (flashed to 6970s) except much quieter. Now I need a 2nd.
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post #66 of 168
3/19/13 at 8:37pm
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Some of you guys are way too defensive, buy whatever you want, but just because you see value in frequent pc upgrades does not mean everyone else does and also does not have anything to do with disposable income (some just make different choices and have different priorities, thus my comment regarding watches). wink.gif



*Oh and for what it's worth guys, those are some bad-ass shiny new toys. biggrin.gif

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Not really defensive, you said that "the obvious answer there is that some people are just obsessive about being cutting edge" When for some that may be the case, for other it's not an obsession, it's simply a "why not" thing. I don't see value in upgrading my system all the time, I do it only for fun and because it's a hobby. Disposable income has everything to do with it. If I didn't have any, I wouldn't be buying new stuff all the time lol.

Though I 100% agree with you about watches, I just don't get it either.
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post #67 of 168
3/19/13 at 8:58pm
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I got my Titan today. It's about as fast as my 3 overclocked 6950s (flashed to 6970s) except much quieter. Now I need a 2nd.
1 card performing for 3. Not to shabby.
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post #68 of 168
3/19/13 at 9:52pm
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Not really defensive, you said that "the obvious answer there is that some people are just obsessive about being cutting edge" When for some that may be the case, for other it's not an obsession, it's simply a "why not" thing. I don't see value in upgrading my system all the time, I do it only for fun and because it's a hobby. Disposable income has everything to do with it. If I didn't have any, I wouldn't be buying new stuff all the time lol.

Though I 100% agree with you about watches, I just don't get it either.


Well my thing is guitars lately. I hope I've sated it. Because I just spent a ton of money on 2 guitars. There's a term on certain forums called GAS...guitar acquisition syndrome.

I had been debating a new monitor for my PC, but I can deal with my 24" 19x12 res until it dies I think. I could certainly have spent that guitar money to buy myself 2 titans, but I don't feel the money is well spent on pc hardware. That's just my preference. I like going to the middle ground usually on my hardware.

But then I will spend a ton of money on something like the chair I sit in to use these systems...I have weird values, some might say.
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post #69 of 168
3/20/13 at 8:32am
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Well my thing is guitars lately. I hope I've sated it. Because I just spent a ton of money on 2 guitars. There's a term on certain forums called GAS...guitar acquisition syndrome.

I had been debating a new monitor for my PC, but I can deal with my 24" 19x12 res until it dies I think. I could certainly have spent that guitar money to buy myself 2 titans, but I don't feel the money is well spent on pc hardware. That's just my preference. I like going to the middle ground usually on my hardware.

But then I will spend a ton of money on something like the chair I sit in to use these systems...I have weird values, some might say.
I think everyone knows the $300 range is the best value for GPUs.

My problem with PCs are is I always find myself saying. "We'll, I'm done building this thing. It's perfect. " just to find myself throwing in another $300 lol. In this case. I upgraded my processor. And now I plan to water cool my Titan as well. I imagine the performance increase just from a simple water cool will be quite high and worth it. This thing over clocks itself like a champ off air. Imagine water.
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post #70 of 168
3/21/13 at 11:41am
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I think everyone knows the $300 range is the best value for GPUs.


By $300 range, are you talking like $380 ? Isn't it about $380 to get a relatively strong GPU ? (at least on the Nvidia side of things)
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post #71 of 168
3/21/13 at 11:53am
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By $300 range, are you talking like $380 ? Isn't it about $380 to get a relatively strong GPU ? (at least on the Nvidia side of things)

I thought the same, but figured it was just my willingness to spend a little extra.

We seem to be talking about the difference between a 660ti and a 670. Is the extra performance of the 670 worth an extra $80 over the 660ti? I would guess most gamers would say yes? confused.gif
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post #72 of 168
3/21/13 at 11:56am
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I think everyone knows the $300 range is the best value for GPUs.

My problem with PCs are is I always find myself saying. "We'll, I'm done building this thing. It's perfect. " just to find myself throwing in another $300 lol. In this case. I upgraded my processor. And now I plan to water cool my Titan as well. I imagine the performance increase just from a simple water cool will be quite high and worth it. This thing over clocks itself like a champ off air. Imagine water.

until Nvidia fixes the throttling issues, air or water doesn't make much difference. How well they will OC seems to be luck of the draw. Some guys are getting stable 1150 without throttling, some can barley get over 1000 and it throttles like mad. There are 4 or 5 custom bios's out, trying to raise the max wattage, some help some don't with the throttling. Check out the Overclock.net titan owners thread. There is a TON of useful info about water cooling vs air and all the other stuff you'd want to know. I got sick of waiting for the lightning versions and picked up 2 evga titans yesterday from Memory express. One thing that always makes me laugh, I go to Memory Express to pick up a cooler I needed for a build I'm doing for a friend and end up spending 5K worth of crap. A new laptop, 3 SSD's amuont a ton of other junk I don't need but wanted to try out. I took my new Y580 laptop and striped it bare bones. New 512 ssd, new diamond IC gpu and cpu, 16 gigs memory, oc'd the display to 120hz, upgraded the speakers lol.
I will say the sli titans are amazing on 2560 x 1600. They rip my old 690's apart sli vs quad. I put the 690's on kijiji yesterday and they are both sold as of 2 hours ago. Gotta love kijiji!!
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post #73 of 168
3/21/13 at 12:21pm
Why did you get the Y580, and do you like it?

I just recently saw their new (new to me at least, was never a fan of IBM laptops, always very crappy features for someone that might play a game on them) "gaming" models and was kind of interested in the Y models. One of the main 2 reasons I avoided ever looking at IBM/lenovo was the keyboard layout, and their low res screens. Which look to be fixed finally.
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post #74 of 168
3/21/13 at 2:26pm
Since I run multiple PC's I'll usually buy two $300 range cards for my gaming machines. For the most part they work well, but when a game requires more horsepower than most, I'll pull one from one machine, pop it in the other to make to make the game smooth, then pull it back out until I get my fill.

I recently purchased a 7950 boost (great deal with the two included games) because it's been years since my last AMD card, and I gots to know.
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post #75 of 168
3/21/13 at 2:56pm
I never really got it to be a full on gaming laptop. Just something I can take on trips that will play games decently. I got this y580 for a few reasons. I love the keyboard feel vs other laptops I've monkeyed with but the layout IMO is fine but I guess I could see how people wouldn't like it because of the number pad. It's not very heavy for a laptop with a gaming card in it. The screen is 1080P led and it's very nice. For whats in the laptop, you'd have to go to around $1300 to get similar features at least. I got mine for a few hundred off the $1099 base price with all the features. I had been doing quite a bit of research but it was an impulse buy because of the good price, as were the titans lol.
Lenovo has the best reliability as far as pc laptops go, I've never had one before and had a hard time picking between this and the Y500 among all the other options. Though the 500 is newer, the battery life is not very good vs the y580 and it's gpu's are 650's (though you can get 2 and sli them but you loose the optical drive) and I wanted my laptop to be able to play actual blu-ray disks as it saves space on my HDD.

I've been using it all day and it really rips. I've played a few games and get decent enough frames at 1080p. I can play most games on high at over 40 fps. Pretty decent for a everything laptop. Aso there is a button to switch between the hd4000 on ivy and the gtx 660 gpu to save power when not using it. Pretty sweet.
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post #76 of 168
3/21/13 at 4:39pm
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I never really got it to be a full on gaming laptop. Just something I can take on trips that will play games decently. I got this y580 for a few reasons. I love the keyboard feel vs other laptops I've monkeyed with but the layout IMO is fine but I guess I could see how people wouldn't like it because of the number pad. It's not very heavy for a laptop with a gaming card in it. The screen is 1080P led and it's very nice. For whats in the laptop, you'd have to go to around $1300 to get similar features at least. I got mine for a few hundred off the $1099 base price with all the features. I had been doing quite a bit of research but it was an impulse buy because of the good price, as were the titans lol.
Lenovo has the best reliability as far as pc laptops go, I've never had one before and had a hard time picking between this and the Y500 among all the other options. Though the 500 is newer, the battery life is not very good vs the y580 and it's gpu's are 650's (though you can get 2 and sli them but you loose the optical drive) and I wanted my laptop to be able to play actual blu-ray disks as it saves space on my HDD.

I've been using it all day and it really rips. I've played a few games and get decent enough frames at 1080p. I can play most games on high at over 40 fps. Pretty decent for a everything laptop. Aso there is a button to switch between the hd4000 on ivy and the gtx 660 gpu to save power when not using it. Pretty sweet.

That does sound kick-ass for $800!

Now I want one, see what I said about the shiny new toys. biggrin.gif

Jason
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post #77 of 168
3/21/13 at 7:57pm
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By $300 range, are you talking like $380 ? Isn't it about $380 to get a relatively strong GPU ? (at least on the Nvidia side of things)
I don't know. The 660ti was on sale for 200 after a $50 mail in rebate which is insanely cheap. If definitely run two of those vs 1 670.
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post #78 of 168
3/22/13 at 1:04pm
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I never really got it to be a full on gaming laptop. Just something I can take on trips that will play games decently. I got this y580 for a few reasons. I love the keyboard feel vs other laptops I've monkeyed with but the layout IMO is fine but I guess I could see how people wouldn't like it because of the number pad. It's not very heavy for a laptop with a gaming card in it. The screen is 1080P led and it's very nice. For whats in the laptop, you'd have to go to around $1300 to get similar features at least. I got mine for a few hundred off the $1099 base price with all the features. I had been doing quite a bit of research but it was an impulse buy because of the good price, as were the titans lol.
Lenovo has the best reliability as far as pc laptops go, I've never had one before and had a hard time picking between this and the Y500 among all the other options. Though the 500 is newer, the battery life is not very good vs the y580 and it's gpu's are 650's (though you can get 2 and sli them but you loose the optical drive) and I wanted my laptop to be able to play actual blu-ray disks as it saves space on my HDD.

I've been using it all day and it really rips. I've played a few games and get decent enough frames at 1080p. I can play most games on high at over 40 fps. Pretty decent for a everything laptop. Aso there is a button to switch between the hd4000 on ivy and the gtx 660 gpu to save power when not using it. Pretty sweet.


Looks like you can swap out the SLI card in the swap slot for a blu ray drive on the 500. Wonder what the price is to get SLI plus the blu ray drive would be.
The 500 looks like a thinner format and also looks much nicer. I don't think I'd ever be playing it long on battery, so that wouldn't be an issue for me.

Really the only other laptop I would consider is an Asus G series, but they are so bulky. I'm just not in love with any laptop out there. There's always something keeping me from buying one. Laptops are finally starting to copy the macbook shapes, so eventually I'll find the perfect features plus the thin format. The lenovo is pretty close.


Edit: y500 has a shiny screen, right out. Again, that for me is a deal breaker. So on the lookout for laptops that can do the right features.
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post #79 of 168
3/22/13 at 10:00pm
I hear you about features that are deal breakers. You can't sli and have an optical drive at the same time. Though it is possible just to swap back and forth very easily. I had wanted the 500 at first but they are having a problem with the touchpads at the moment. Style wise, they are very similar as I had then side by side and was monkeying with each one. I may have gone with the 500 if it had better battery life but it was pretty horrible. I had also wanted an asus unit but like you, found they are much to bulky and I'd not want to have to travel with it. In the end you have to compromise or you'll never get anything.

Oh and for the screen, I bought a matte screen skin and it's perfect. It didn't ruin the brightness and kept the nice PQ. A compromise I had to make. Though for $60 you can get replacement LED 1080p matte screens that are a direct replacement but the problem is, the screen on the y580 is tested as one of the best available for a 15" 1080p screen.
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post #80 of 168
3/23/13 at 12:03am
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In the end you have to compromise or you'll never get anything.

Oh I know, this is why I've never owned a laptop.

And the SLI thing, I knew it was a drive bay used for 2nd card, I was curious what the price of SLI and the drive would cost, I couldn't find the drive price on their site.
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post #81 of 168
3/23/13 at 1:06am
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Where are you getting a 660ti for $250 minus $50 rebate, including tax and shipping?

Also, a single 670 outperforms dual 660ti.

Please do some research. There is literally no way in hell a single 670 would outperform 660Ti SLI.
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post #82 of 168
3/23/13 at 5:25am
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Throw that tv away and get yourself a decent monitor son!

Show me a 37" decent monitor and we'll talk wink.gif

This is a nice set....nice look, excellent response times, and if I want to crush blacks I turn the gamma setting down and get a pretty good black.......I've gamed on multi-monitor setups, on 3D setups...the 3D was "neet, for awhile" and that's where the love affair ended. The ultra high rez 30" monitors out there left me cold....sucked all the horsepower out of the rig and still left you with an identical looking game to one playing at 1080p.....and using that screen AS a monitor, native text was giving me eyestrain. Oh the woes of being a middle-aged gamer......*sigh*....
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post #83 of 168
3/23/13 at 7:42am
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Whomever said this
Please do some research. There is literally no way in hell a single 670 would outperform 660Ti SLI.

I did some research, and I was wrong - which is why I deleted the post almost immediately. redface.gif

My apologies if you felt it was attacking you.
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post #84 of 168
3/23/13 at 9:23am
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Oh I know, this is why I've never owned a laptop.

And the SLI thing, I knew it was a drive bay used for 2nd card, I was curious what the price of SLI and the drive would cost, I couldn't find the drive price on their site.

The blu drive is $90 and the 650 card from lenovo is $220 but was on sale for $138 for almost 2 months until a few days ago. I was the same was about any laptop but in the end, the price made me jump on it.
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3/23/13 at 1:13pm
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Show me a 37" decent monitor and we'll talk wink.gif

This is a nice set....nice look, excellent response times, and if I want to crush blacks I turn the gamma setting down and get a pretty good black.......I've gamed on multi-monitor setups, on 3D setups...the 3D was "neet, for awhile" and that's where the love affair ended. The ultra high rez 30" monitors out there left me cold....sucked all the horsepower out of the rig and still left you with an identical looking game to one playing at 1080p.....and using that screen AS a monitor, native text was giving me eyestrain. Oh the woes of being a middle-aged gamer......*sigh*....
They have pretty big monitors. But they aren't worth their price. I actually play most games on my tv. Unless I'm console gaming. I can't do one thing at once so multi monitor set up is very useful for me. Gaming on one screen. Browsing the web on another while listening to music and having my playlist up. It's awesome lol.
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post #86 of 168
3/23/13 at 1:13pm
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I did some research, and I was wrong - which is why I deleted the post almost immediately. redface.gif

My apologies if you felt it was attacking you.
It's all good! smile.gif
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post #87 of 168
3/23/13 at 1:52pm
So dave, now that you've had some time with your Titan....have your thoughts changed at all? still good to go? I must say I'm fairly impressed with mine, one OC's like mad and the other is just so-so. Ahh well, I guess i did ok in the GUP lottery!,
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post #88 of 168
3/23/13 at 2:58pm
I don't regret it for a second. To bad it's beauty will be destroyed once my water block comes in.
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post #89 of 168
3/23/13 at 3:43pm
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I don't regret it for a second. To bad it's beauty will be destroyed once my water block comes in.

What did you go with? There are a few companys offering AIO's attached to the titans. Kind of a good idea for guys who don't want to go full WC. Also I'm assuming you've oc'd your cards? How have they done so far?
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post #90 of 168
3/23/13 at 6:25pm
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What did you go with? There are a few companys offering AIO's attached to the titans. Kind of a good idea for guys who don't want to go full WC. Also I'm assuming you've oc'd your cards? How have they done so far?
I went with an EK waterblock. I love the fact that they use paste vs pads. Should get even better performance. This thing over clocks like a beast. I imagine I should get a 30% improvement once watercooled.
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