What's the WORST flat panel TV you've seen lately? - Page 2

Originally Posted by Mr.SoftDome 

You sure those symtoms aren't from the drinking water in the good ole state of Alabama?

I'm glad I don't have those symptoms. The Academy Awards looked kick-ass on my display tonight. Last night finally caught Skyfall. Unbelievable picture quality.

Sorry you are not feeling well. Perhaps get off the Plasma Koolaid mixed with Alabama tap water

Rick

Originally Posted by mr. wally 

wow, who woulda thought this thread could generate such vitriol...

Originally Posted by Artwood 

When I attempt to watch 60 HZ LCD it is so bad that I immediately have diarreha, go into convulsions, and vomit!

While I'm having a heart attack it is actually less nauseaus for me to watch a dog eating the vomit than to watch LCD!

The only scene here LCD excels is in the Candy Man movie where they are showing that bathroom in Chicago! You can almost smell the colors!

They say that LCD was actually around when Hitler was alive but he refused to let the SS use it for torture because he said that would be inhumane!

LCD is great at showing bright whites but then the Sharp Quattron also uses yellow and we all know not to eat that yellow snow where the Huskies go!

They say if you show LCD to someone in a casket then you'll have the night of the Living Dead!

I believe it is those zombie people that watch LCD and promote it to the death.



P.S. these are some of my charitable comments about LCD--I won't tell the truth about LCD picture quality because it is so bad that if I were to tell it it would be banned faster than Faces of death!

Originally Posted by Joeworkstoohard 

Worst? Sharp 600u.

Even for an 800 dollar 60inch, it sucks. I am embarrassed to install them.

Originally Posted by Joeworkstoohard 

Worst? Sharp 600u.

Even for an 800 dollar 60inch, it sucks. I am embarrassed to install them.

Originally Posted by hoozthatat 

Price wise & spec wise that would fall in line with Vizio E601I-A3. You'd recommend the Vizio? As mediocre as they both are, if somone's looking for a 60" LED/LCD @ that price point, I'd recommend the Sharp without hesitation.

That being said I'd recommend the LG PA6500, the Samsung E550 or the Panasonic U50 all before the previously mentioned models, but if they refuse to own a PDP for one reason or another, I'd prefer the Sharp over the Vizio. No question.

Originally Posted by andy sullivan 

Most if not all of the professional reviews disagree with you. Even the major magazine reviewers were surprised at the PQ of the Vizio. Now I like the Sharp 640 series but the 600, not so much. Interestingly enough I think the Vizio is using a Sharp panel.

Originally Posted by Artwood 

In my whole life I have never had a plasma burn in on me.

Why does that happen to other people?

How dumb do you have to be to have that happen to you?

Originally Posted by andy sullivan 
Apparently no too dumb Art. If you go through the thread here on AVS Forum regarding IR and Burn-in on the 2012 Panasonic Plasma you will find quite a few posts from long time experienced plasma owners that go into great detail regarding how they broke in their plasma TV. A few have even gone through more than one set. It doesn't make any sense to me why some have a serious problem and most do not..

Originally Posted by andy sullivan 

Most if not all of the professional reviews disagree with you. Even the major magazine reviewers were surprised at the PQ of the Vizio. Now I like the Sharp 640 series but the 600, not so much. Interestingly enough I think the Vizio is using a Sharp panel.

Originally Posted by mailiang 

There was a 55'' Panasonic UT50 on sale at Costco. Next to it was a more expensive 50'' Vizio edge lit LED/LCD. I was having a friendly chat with the manager and I was able to get the remotes and adjust both TV's. The Panny just blew it away in terms of black level, shadow detail and over all picture quality. Regardless of CNET's comments about the UT50 not being very bright, it had no problem competing with the Vizio under the bright fluorescent store lighting, which surprised me.
Ian

Originally Posted by Ken Ross 

Ian, not disputing your observations, but how on earth could you come to any conclusion about black levels at a Costco? Given the almost daylight level of illumination and your admission of the 'bright fluorescent store lighting', it's about the last place I would ever try to determine the black levels of any display.

Originally Posted by mr. wally 

I don't know ken. Is best buy really any better? Unless you're in the magnolia showroom pretty much all retail places suck for viewing a display.

To me the key is getting ahold of a working remote so you can adjust the (usually) tragic settings on the set. Heck last time I was at best buy I couldn't get my hands on a remote and even you would have been aghast at how the elite looked.

Originally Posted by tgm1024 

You can't in an absolute sense, but luckily there are a ton of TVs to the left and right of the one you're looking at. Wouldn't they all be affected roughly the same way? I understand the differences in what light does when striking the panel itself, particularly when piercing through an LCD vs. hitting the surface of a plasma array, but side by side comparisons would be relatively similar given any level of ambient light, no?

Originally Posted by hoozthatat 

I don't think Ken was suggesting that any other retail/big box/warehouse location was a better spot to gather information on these things, but rather that trying to assess something like say black levels, on a show room floor/warehouse setting with a flood of fluorescent lights and etc. is near impossible.

Originally Posted by tgm1024 

By the way, there seems to be a sense from people that the plasmas on display in stores are placed into some sort of torch mode. I had always assumed that they were dramatically subdued on purpose (more so than their normal brightness) to help keep the floor units from burning.

Originally Posted by tgm1024 

You can't in an absolute sense, but luckily there are a ton of TVs to the left and right of the one you're looking at. Wouldn't they all be affected roughly the same way? I understand the differences in what light does when striking the panel itself, particularly when piercing through an LCD vs. hitting the surface of a plasma array, but side by side comparisons would be relatively similar given any level of ambient light, no?

IOW, if it's apparent that LCD X has better blacks than Plasma Y (somehow ), then wouldn't that side by side comparison apply in my living room as well to some degree?

Originally Posted by Ken Ross 

Perhaps you can draw 'relative' comparisons, but it does little to tell you the absolute values. I would never want to buy a display because it's black levels looked better than the panels to its left & right. I'd need to see it in a controlled lighting environment. Add the additional complication that perhaps the display you're interested in, in this bright light comparison, may either be adjusted better or worse than the surrounding displays, and you have a real can of worms. At that point even your 'relative assessment' means little to nothing.

Originally Posted by toby1015 

Being that I sell tv's, I get to analyze the picture on many different brands and models. This years, the biggest turd I've seen is the Toshiba cinema series 55l7200. At $2000 it had a horrible picture. color accuracy was abismal, picture uniformity was a disaster, and dispite zone dimming it had just the worst black levels and contrast. After all that ranting the worst thing it has is shadow detail. Don't even try and watch a dark movie on this thing you wont be able to see anything. No amount of picture tweeking can make this thing loog good.