AVS Roundup of the Best-Reviewed Flat Panel TVs of 2012 - Page 3

No longer a problem, my buddy returned the 65" VT50 for the Sharp 70".
Now it's bright enough to view in his daylight conditions, and his room thermometer no longer reads 80 degrees.

Hope your buddy enjoys inferior performance

Making a correction, the color issues with the Elite is not related to brightness but saturation of the primaries and secondaries. When you calibrate the gamut at 75% luminance(brightness) and 100% saturation, you end up with non-linear saturation tracking below 100%. Cyan is worse of them all with drastic hue errors. Below is a 20% saturation sweep chart of the Elite's color gamut calibrated to 100% saturation targets.



If you calibrate the Elite using 75% luminance and 75% saturation targets, the set will result in much better tracking from 0-75% saturation, which is where most real world content lies. One will have to live with the errors from 75-100% saturation but you end up with a better overall picture including more natural skin tones, tree leaves, etc.

He may actually view it as superior performance. I had both the Pioneer Pro 151 and the Sharp Elite in my home for about a month. I was able to conduct numerous comparisons with a myriad of content. I preferred the Elite and not by a narrow margin.

I'll never understand why people can't accept that each tech has its strength and weaknesses and its the value you put in those strengths as well as the weight you give to the weaknesses that determine what YOU think is the best.

Ken I respect and am aware that he very well may view the 70" Sharp as a superior performer. But unless he exchanged for the Elite, no 70" in Sharp's line will hold a candle to the VT50. That being said, the "wow" factor of a 70" display is nice. And I fully respect the benefits/perks that LCD can bring, and I'm willing to accept that we all have the right to choose. That's what AVS is all about

Agree Hooz.

How come you are always lurking in any thread that mentions plasmas, just waiting for the opportunity to voice your gripes? Heating up the apartment?! My cable box puts out more heat. Go enjoy your cloudy, artificial picture.

I have that Sharp in my living room. So I can actually give opinions based on fact. The fact is the Sharp is awful compared to the 65VT50. The only way I prefer the Sharp is for a brightly lit room. Otherwise, the PQ is easily 300% better on the Panny. Contrast, motion, viewing angles and and color accuracy are leagues better. Did I mention its not a small difference?

Edit: I have the regular Sharp, not the Elite. Just to clarify.

Here's the problem.

I view my VT50 in daylight conditions all the time. Unless the sun is directly incident on the screen, it presents no problem. And specifically, you have to be at the angle of incidence for it to matter. If the sun comes in at 45 degrees from the left and you are directly perpendicular to the screen, the filter makes the sun a non factor. If you are 45 degrees off the other way, however, you see the "sun spots".

But I watch the VT50 for football, the occasional golf, baseball, etc. And it's plenty bright for daytime viewing.

And this nonsense about the temperature? Just stop.

The thing barely runs warm. I can hold my hand on the back after my TV has been on several hours. Every time I read one of your absurd posts, I actually do this (assuming the TV has been on). And just now, after 3 hours on, I could have held my hand their indefinitely.

I wish the plasma could warm my room even a little, but it just doesn't do a darned thing.

Hey, I bet a number of people prefer the Elite to the VT50. That's pretty reasonable (although others will prefer the VT50 to the Elite). What's not reasonable is to have an entirely bogus preference based on entire bogus non-facts about the VT50. That's all.

I had suggested to my wife that we get several VT50s for our new place, strategically spreading them across the house to save on our heating bills. My plan is to entirely ditch our heating system and use the VT50s not as TVs, but rather as modified space heaters.

Only kidding guys.

I am actually considering the VT60 as an alternative display for our bedroom. I had been considering a 4K display for our den and moving my Elite to the bedroom, but I'm tending to back off from that now over concerns of their inability to display future 4K 60p (the current and impending 4K crop).

You guys will laugh at one of the annoyances I have with plasma. I currently have a 42" Kuro in our bedroom and I find it nearly impossible to listen to our AM shower radio when I'm showering and my wife is watching the Kuro. I actually never see people commenting on RF interference from plasmas as it relates to AM radio reception, but I do find it annoying. I'm not sure if the Kuros are a worse offender in this area.

I would have thought it was 248% better, I'm surprised.

Better check again. My Buddy saw a lot of the problems in the Store Demo unit, but Sharp has done quite a few Ugrades and Mods. His unit is built in January 2013, and he's gone over it with a fine tooth comb, and seeing None of the Problems Forum Members have complained about, nor what he was seeing on the Store Demo Unit.

Hold on now. Are you saying your friend bought a Sharp Elite with a 2013 build date or one of the regular Sharp panels? To the best of my knowledge, 11/12 was the last production run for the Elite. That would be great if what you say applies to the Elite and they've taken care of the Nov build issues.
Edited by Ken Ross - 2/28/13 at 9:36am

I wish I had that problem!

Ken, I think you meant 11/12. It is my understanding as well that 11/12 is the last build date and the Elite is no more. It seems that is you want the Elite in the future, you will have to get the $30k 4k.

I'm not doubting the fact that 70" Sharp he picked up is a solid FP. All I was saying is that I can't believe he won't miss the VT50's performance over whatever average Sharp he picked up (assuming he didn't pick up the Elite, which I'm gathering the fact that he didn't.)

You're right, I did mean 11/12.

It was also my understanding that 11/12 was the last production run, that's why I was surprised by his friend's 1/13 build date. Probably not an Elite.

My buddy went to the store to buy the Sharp after watching so many games on one at the local watering hole. He came home with an ST50.

Sounds like your buddy make a great choice.

He came to the conclusion that the Sharp is a good TV but it's not the better TV.

And I think most would echo that conclusion.

I have not mentioned Elite in any of my postings. He has the new 847 panel I believe.

If he's heating that much space with a 159 Watt Device, then good grief, notify Obama. (That's if he has the 65VT50, and I'll even grant him the running it of 24/7). Maybe the guy lives in Arizona. LOL.

We can have divergent opinions on things, even outlandish statements, but outright falsehoods? But then again, perhaps it does good in the long run for the non-technical to see that he's ridiculed for it.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.......you-know-who will post soon........

I too am completely impressed even with the 1920x540 (passive) LG's. But in general though? The panel off-angle, uniformity, and flashlighting/bleed is horrible, and I didn't find it the least bit surprising to have LG not even mentioned by the Scott.

No ribbing now. It has my depressed enough as is.

What made you choose this sarcastic response over the one you just deleted? Neither was particularly clever or funny.

I guess I always find it funny when someone posts these absolute percentages. But hey 'clever & funny' (or lack thereof) are in the eyes of the beholder. Don't take it to heart.