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post #691 of 1095
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Originally Posted by NSX1992 View Post

My nearby dealer is willing to sell the 84" Sony for $22,500 with no tax in order to move them but he said the sales slip would show $25,000.
You could buy 2 >> 84" LG's and a 4 wheeler too for that price ..........
post #692 of 1095
Maybe LG is scared of this?: (Watch Sony's pricing drop as well!)

http://un85s9.com/
Edited by p5browne - 6/27/13 at 6:56pm
post #693 of 1095
Na, I do not think so. LOL >>>> "Samsung will sell the UN85S9 for a cool $39,999." >>> Click Here
post #694 of 1095
Why would they go Active 3D?
Is it from reading of LG and Sony owners complaining about the Passive 3D Lines being an irritation unless you're at least 10 feet away from the set?
post #695 of 1095
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Na, I do not think so. LOL >>>> "Samsung will sell the UN85S9 for a cool $39,999." >>> Click Here

And you may sell 1 to Donald Trump?
I think most Members will hold out for the OLED sets if they're going to be spending Big Bucks!
I can see why you recommended I hold onto my LG 55LHX Fully Backlit ! (Maybe this is why it's held onto it's value for this long?)
Edited by p5browne - 6/27/13 at 9:26pm
post #696 of 1095
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

And you may sell 1 to Donald Trump?
I think most Members will hold out for the OLED sets if they're going to be spending Big Bucks!
I can see why you recommended I hold onto my LG 55LHX Fully Backlit ! (Maybe this is why it's held onto it's value for this long?)

Not sure of OLED future. UHD seems to be catching on.

4K UHD TV interest causing an OLED rethink

http://www.whathifi.com/news/4k-uhd-tv-interest-causing-an-oled-rethink
post #697 of 1095
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Why would they go Active 3D?
Is it from reading of LG and Sony owners complaining about the Passive 3D Lines being an irritation unless you're at least 10 feet away from the set?

I'm disappointed in their use of active 3D also and that might be a deal breaker. I already have a HDTV that uses active glasses and I'd like to ditch having to use batteries and the resulting brightness loss. Hopefully the Samsung sets will be bright even with active eye wear so I'll keep an open mind but I was so very ready to move past the use of battery powered 3D glasses.

I demoed 3D 2x on a Sony 65" set and did not see any lines. To be sure, I'm going to check it out again very soon.
post #698 of 1095
I can live without 3D myself, no worries over here anyway.......
post #699 of 1095
Taking advantage of the recent price drop, I ordered one from Cleveland Plasma, to be delivered later this week. I'm so excited! biggrin.gif

Has anyone successfully hook his/her PC/Mac to this TV and able to play 4k videos? I know it cannot be done directly with the MacBook - the maximum resolution with thunderbolt is 2560 X 1600. I've heard that it can be done with a Mac running Window 7 with bootcamp, but I doubt that's true, for most the mini display port to hdmi adapters only support hdmi 1.3. As for PCs, what video cards and software do I need? I'd would be happy if I can display 4K still pictures on this TV!

4K monitors are starting to appear:

http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/04/asus-4k-monitor-is-a-beast-your-computer-probably-cant-tame-ju/
http://www.tvtechnology.com/news/0086/k-monitors-starting-to-come-into-focus/219827
post #700 of 1095
I did a lot of work trying to output 4K videos through my PC including buying a $1,025 Nvidia Titan video card with HDMI. The end result is my post #282 on p.10.
post #701 of 1095
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Originally Posted by kinmanc View Post

Taking advantage of the recent price drop, I ordered one from Cleveland Plasma, to be delivered later this week. I'm so excited! biggrin.gif

Has anyone successfully hook his/her PC/Mac to this TV and able to play 4k videos? I know it cannot be done directly with the MacBook - the maximum resolution with thunderbolt is 2560 X 1600. I've heard that it can be done with a Mac running Window 7 with bootcamp, but I doubt that's true, for most the mini display port to hdmi adapters only support hdmi 1.3. As for PCs, what video cards and software do I need? I'd would be happy if I can display 4K still pictures on this TV!

4K monitors are starting to appear:

http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/04/asus-4k-monitor-is-a-beast-your-computer-probably-cant-tame-ju/
http://www.tvtechnology.com/news/0086/k-monitors-starting-to-come-into-focus/219827

I can confirm it works through the Macbook Pro w/Retina screen using the built in HDMI port on Windows 7. I've used it on several occassions you may have tweak the video card settings to get that resolution because it may not automatically switch to that res but it does work.
post #702 of 1095
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Originally Posted by robinsj View Post

Sorry haven't posted for awhile, been so busy. My wife had our 6th child just a couple of weeks ago, so that take ALOT of attention.

Loving this LG Tv more and more everyday.

Turned it on today and it asked if I wanted to update to ver.05.01.24. Anyone else get the update? It's updating now, does LG give out release notes anywhere online with the updates?

Great to have you stop in!smile.gif Congratulations on your new baby!

Nice to hear that you're enjoying the LG!smile.gif I also did the update on mine, not sure what it included, but the update was a hefty one that took nearly 30 minutes to complete. It would be nice to know what was installed with this update.


Seth
post #703 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dreaux View Post

No not close, I have 443 hours. When did you get the set?

Going to watch Ben-Hur this weekend. So Ben tears it up huh?

I'm even further behind at 252 hours of use.
post #704 of 1095
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

Why would they go Active 3D?
Is it from reading of LG and Sony owners complaining about the Passive 3D Lines being an irritation unless you're at least 10 feet away from the set?

Samsung has always been a very strong supporter of active 3D, and will only switch to passive if active completely died out. Us owners of these LG and Sony UHD TV's know that passive 3D is the only way to go! Toshiba's upcoming UHD TV's will also be passive 3D, and Vizio's entries later on will also be passive. So right now the only UHD TV manufacturers backing active 3D is Sharp and Samsung.

And regarding the "lines" being visible, I don't see any at all. The picture is super smooth, with only a gorgeous, extremely detailed, and very vibrant 3D image. The lines that some were complaining about were only on the 55" Sony UHD model, and it's puzzling that model has any visible lines, as it should not have any being that both eyes are getting full 1080p.


Seth
post #705 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dreaux View Post

Not sure of OLED future. UHD seems to be catching on.

4K UHD TV interest causing an OLED rethink

http://www.whathifi.com/news/4k-uhd-tv-interest-causing-an-oled-rethink

Thanks for sharing that Jim!wink.gif Looks like OLED is being put on low priority right now, and UHD is in in the limelight. Great news for us, as content for these displays will be sooner rather than later. I have no interest in anything hard drive based, and am patiently waiting for the Blu-ray group to get a workable (and HDMI 1.4a compatible) 4K Blu-ray player released.


Seth
post #706 of 1095
I watched Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole on 3D Blu-ray last night, and I gotta say it was phenomenal!! Reference stuff here! Simply gorgeous PQ! And the 3D on this one is amazing!!! Plenty of depth and some cool coming out of the screen moments as well! The detail and clarity on this one is off the charts! Another excellent 3D Blu-ray show off disc!

So as it stands, for me the best 3D Blu-ray's I've seen to date are:

Legend of the Guardians
Oz the Great and Powerful
Hansel and Gretel Witch Hunters
Jurassic Park
Avatar
Life of Pi
Journey to the Center of the Earth
post #707 of 1095
When watching almost any TV show , I get very jerky motion anytime the camera pans ( which I never saw any any of my other tv's ),, is that a built in issue with the LG or setting that should be turned off or on ???
Plus: during night scenes or dark indoor scenes - the blacks was out all the picture detail-/ is there a way to remedy this and not turn the blacks into grainy greys ??
post #708 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dmtkdc View Post

When watching almost any TV show , I get very jerky motion anytime the camera pans ( which I never saw any any of my other tv's ),, is that a built in issue with the LG or setting that should be turned off or on ???
Plus: during night scenes or dark indoor scenes - the blacks was out all the picture detail-/ is there a way to remedy this and not turn the blacks into grainy greys ??

How do you have your cable/satellite connected? Are you going direct into the TV? Or are you up-scaling before going to the TV (via Oppo 103/105, AVR, preamp processor). I think Dreaux (Jim) had tried up-scaling satellite and then going into the LG. He said that sports were very jerky in motion, but when it's input without up-scaling first, the picture pans smoothly. I have my Dish HD DVR connected directly and let the LG do the up-scaling and it's super smooth with camera pans.

I have TruMotion set to off. As for the problematic black levels, I have not noticed this at all on mine. For satellite, as I mentioned, I go directly to the TV (HDMI input 2), and I have the picture settings for black levels set to:

Local Dimming- Low
Dynamic Contrast- Off
Black Level- Low
And I have Real Cinema set to "On"

With these settings, the blacks are deep, but don't crush the image, and details in darker scenes are still visible. Also where do you have your backlight, contrast, and brightness set at?


Seth
post #709 of 1095
I have comcast ( Exfinity ) - the signal goes directly from the cable box to Arab via hdmi cable.
post #710 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dmtkdc View Post

I have comcast ( Exfinity ) - the signal goes directly from the cable box to Arab via hdmi cable.

Cable box to Arab?
post #711 of 1095
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Originally Posted by ohyeah32 View Post

How do you have your cable/satellite connected? Are you going direct into the TV? Or are you up-scaling before going to the TV (via Oppo 103/105, AVR, preamp processor). I think Dreaux (Jim) had tried up-scaling satellite and then going into the LG. He said that sports were very jerky in motion, but when it's input without up-scaling first, the picture pans smoothly. I have my Dish HD DVR connected directly and let the LG do the up-scaling and it's super smooth with camera pans.

I have TruMotion set to off. As for the problematic black levels, I have not noticed this at all on mine. For satellite, as I mentioned, I go directly to the TV (HDMI input 2), and I have the picture settings for black levels set to:

Local Dimming- Low
Dynamic Contrast- Off
Black Level- Low
And I have Real Cinema set to "On"

With these settings, the blacks are deep, but don't crush the image, and details in darker scenes are still visible. Also where do you have your backlight, contrast, and brightness set at?


Seth

Hi Seth,

So you don't have the Dish box go to your receiver, as a pass thru, then from your AVR to the LG? Have you tried that? For sound from the Dish receiver are you using an optical cable?

I plan on buying this TV in about 2 weeks. I'm also looking to get the Pioneer SC-79 AVR; and the Oppo 103 BD player. I should be sufficiently broke for years to come, lol. tongue.gif

Mark
post #712 of 1095
Sorry , Ohyeah32 , Seth and Mark-- my phones spell correct adds words iat random.
The connection goes from Exfinity cable box, directly to LG hdmi input ( no receiver pass through ). But pans are very very jerky- it is very pronounced- especially during action or commercials.
post #713 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dmtkdc View Post

Sorry , Ohyeah32 , Seth and Mark-- my phones spell correct adds words iat random.
The connection goes from Exfinity cable box, directly to LG hdmi input ( no receiver pass through ). But pans are very very jerky- it is very pronounced- especially during action or commercials.

What does you info/display button say when you press it down. Should say (1080) 60Hz. If it says 30Hz that would explain the jerkiness. But that only happens when you feed it a 4K source.
post #714 of 1095
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Originally Posted by Sir_Mark View Post

Hi Seth,

So you don't have the Dish box go to your receiver, as a pass thru, then from your AVR to the LG? Have you tried that? For sound from the Dish receiver are you using an optical cable?

I plan on buying this TV in about 2 weeks. I'm also looking to get the Pioneer SC-79 AVR; and the Oppo 103 BD player. I should be sufficiently broke for years to come, lol. tongue.gif

Mark

Hi, Mark,

That's correct, I have the satellite (Dish Network) connected directly to the HDMI 2 input of the LG. The only reason I opted to go directly to the TV, is I found the PQ to be better that way rather than going through the AV8801.

Yes, I use optical from satellite to pre/pro.

I look forward to your impressions once you get your TV.smile.gif

Seth
post #715 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dmtkdc View Post

Sorry , Ohyeah32 , Seth and Mark-- my phones spell correct adds words iat random.
The connection goes from Exfinity cable box, directly to LG hdmi input ( no receiver pass through ). But pans are very very jerky- it is very pronounced- especially during action or commercials.

Darn auto correct!tongue.gif

While it shouldn't make a difference, is your cable box set to 1080i or 1080p? On my Dish Network receiver it only offers 1080i output, so the TV does the interlaced to progressive conversion. At 1080i input the picture is very smooth. I haven't tried 1080p output on satellite as I don't have that option. If your cable box is set to output 1080p, try changing it to 1080i and see if that makes a difference.
post #716 of 1095
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Originally Posted by kinmanc View Post

Taking advantage of the recent price drop, I ordered one from Cleveland Plasma, to be delivered later this week. I'm so excited! biggrin.gif

Has anyone successfully hook his/her PC/Mac to this TV and able to play 4k videos? I know it cannot be done directly with the MacBook - the maximum resolution with thunderbolt is 2560 X 1600. I've heard that it can be done with a Mac running Window 7 with bootcamp, but I doubt that's true, for most the mini display port to hdmi adapters only support hdmi 1.3. As for PCs, what video cards and software do I need? I'd would be happy if I can display 4K still pictures on this TV!

4K monitors are starting to appear:

http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/04/asus-4k-monitor-is-a-beast-your-computer-probably-cant-tame-ju/
http://www.tvtechnology.com/news/0086/k-monitors-starting-to-come-into-focus/219827

Sorry for my late posting. Congratulations on your new LG 4K TV!smile.gif Welcome aboard!

Look forward to your impressions of the TV once you get it all hooked up!


Seth
Edited by ohyeah32 - 7/4/13 at 11:10am
post #717 of 1095
Hi, so I finally bought this tv, it is beautiful, I had the change to take my laptop to the store and see both the Sony 65x900a and the LG84 and compare them side by side, the Sony65 looks like a toy, it´s very small beside the LG. I paid special attention to the upscaler of the tvs, and to me the scaler in the sony65 is alot worse, at least for desktop use, in game scene and 1080p, the icons in windows 7 had that white halo around them, signal of oversharpening, it was very visible with the sharpen setting even on 0, it makes no difference, in the LG you can see it but it is very faint, like Michael Osadciw said in his post. Overall the picture in 1080p looked a lot more natural on the LG, with 4k ,wow, the LG mopped the floor with the Sony just by its size, also the LG had very faint banding, but the sony´s 65 had an horrible black spot in the panel above the sony logo, like flashlight, that is very visible in light colors, I don´t know if it is pressure from the assembly or what is causing it, I saw two Sonys and the two had this defect.

Anyway if there´s someone interested, I just found that if you play games with vsync at 29hz in 4K, the input lag is a lot better, almost all the games try to go to 30hz when in fullscreen, so the lag is alot worse, but if you play the games windowed borderless at 29hz, the lag is a lot less, also you can limit the framerate with bandicam at 32fps, and with that combination, the games feel very smooth with vsync. biggrin.gif
Edited by abeslu - 7/4/13 at 12:22pm
post #718 of 1095
It looks like the Sony 4K Media Player will not work with the LG 4K tv ( and even their own 84" 4K tv needs to be modified ). Again , Sony greed shoots Sony in the foot. Any one know of any other source of pure 4K out there for our LG's to play now ??
post #719 of 1095
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Originally Posted by abeslu View Post

Hi, so I finally bought this tv, it is beautiful, I had the change to take my laptop to the store and see both the Sony 65x900a and the LG84 and compare them side by side, the Sony65 looks like a toy, it´s very small beside the LG. I paid special attention to the upscaler of the tvs, and to me the scaler in the sony65 is alot worse, at least for desktop use, in game scene and 1080p, the icons in windows 7 had that white halo around them, signal of oversharpening, it was very visible with the sharpen setting even on 0, it makes no difference, in the LG you can see it but it is very faint, like Michael Osadciw said in his post. Overall the picture in 1080p looked a lot more natural on the LG, with 4k ,wow, the LG mopped the floor with the Sony just by its size, also the LG had very faint banding, but the sony´s 65 had an horrible black spot in the panel above the sony logo, like flashlight, that is very visible in light colors, I don´t know if it is pressure from the assembly or what is causing it, I saw two Sonys and the two had this defect.

Anyway if there´s someone interested, I just found that if you play games with vsync at 29hz in 4K, the input lag is a lot better, almost all the games try to go to 30hz when in fullscreen, so the lag is alot worse, but if you play the games windowed borderless at 29hz, the lag is a lot less, also you can limit the framerate with bandicam at 32fps, and with that combination, the games feel very smooth with vsync. biggrin.gif

Congratulations on your new LG 4K TV!smile.gif Great to have another owner with us. Thanks for your observations when you compared the LG and Sony side by side. I know that the PQ on the LG 4K is the best I've seen on any TV!

And other than the banding that most of us see, this TV produces a gorgeous picture!
post #720 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dmtkdc View Post

It looks like the Sony 4K Media Player will not work with the LG 4K tv ( and even their own 84" 4K tv needs to be modified ). Again , Sony greed shoots Sony in the foot. Any one know of any other source of pure 4K out there for our LG's to play now ??

Yep, this sounds like typical Sony. As far as something else to play 4K content on our LG's, right now the only option is the Red Ray player. I think it retails for $1,700. Not sure what content is or will be available to play on it though. So far I don't think it has access to major Hollywood movies.

Seth
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