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post #751 of 1095
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Originally Posted by farminfool View Post

I was also reading this review) http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3901/3/lg-84lm960v--lg-84lm9600-uhd-tv-review-scaling-up-to-uhd )... of the 4k lg and they were saying that it won't upscale HD content to 4k content like the sony and sharp 4k televisions. But LG's site clearly says they have a "4 stage upscaling" . So am i missing something or are they misinformed? Is it only the 65 and 55 inch that have the quote 4 stage upscaler ?

I saw that review a while back and I think he has his facts wrong. Every other reviewer says that the LG does an excellent job on upscaling. If you check the other reviews I think you will get a better perspective.
There are some excellent blu-ray players but none better than the Oppo 103 or 105. With a display like the one you got I would recommend that blu-ray player. It will also upscale to 4K but you probably won't need it since the LG does an excellent job of upscaling.
post #752 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dreaux View Post

I saw that review a while back and I think he has his facts wrong. Every other reviewer says that the LG does an excellent job on upscaling. If you check the other reviews I think you will get a better perspective.
There are some excellent blu-ray players but none better than the Oppo 103 or 105. With a display like the one you got I would recommend that blu-ray player. It will also upscale to 4K but you probably won't need it since the LG does an excellent job of upscaling.
Thanks very much for your help !
Thanks much for your help ! Confusing article .
post #753 of 1095
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Originally Posted by farminfool View Post

I was also reading this review) http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3901/3/lg-84lm960v--lg-84lm9600-uhd-tv-review-scaling-up-to-uhd )... of the 4k lg and they were saying that it won't upscale HD content to 4k content like the sony and sharp 4k televisions. But LG's site clearly says they have a "4 stage upscaling" . So am i missing something or are they misinformed? Is it only the 65 and 55 inch that have the quote 4 stage upscaler ?

Hard to translate what they're actually stating in that, at a minimum article:
They didn't say No Upscaling: `LG in its turn has not equipped the 84LM960V with an upscaling feature of that type.' - OF THAT TYPE - means LG does it a different way?
Ambiquous is what is coming of these different Manufacturer's Specs. Is a Sony with a 6 Core and 2 Core going to have a better PQ than the new LA9700 with Dual core, or just have faster perrformance with the APPS? It seems nowdays, more emphasis is being put on the APPS, rather than on the actual PQ performance. Give me a Great looking TV, without all this APP nonsense, because just about every pheripheral out there, now has the same APPS, Like HOW MUCH are all these APPS costing, that you're paying for over and over for nowdays in every addon device!
post #754 of 1095
One question: I was wondering this: If the optimum viewing distance of a 84" HDTV for not harming your eyes or getting a headache and losing the view perspective is around 11-16 feet, wouldn't the human eye at that distance see a movie (1080p and up) the same way wheter at a 1080p/4K or 8K display? I mean, ultra clear "retina-view" displays make complete sense when the user is having the display very close to them (e.g. holding a smartphone) but if the user is far away everything seems retina like. I was in line waiting at a bank where there was a 32" HDTV connected to a PC showing some information. Up close to the display the pixelation was very noticiable but a little far away the image was the same as I get when using my iPad 4.

Isn't the same case with 4K HDTVs? I have read some opinions of people that have seen very big 4K display at store and at a confortable viewing distance they saw no difference at all and the only visible difference was when they were very near the display but the admitted they would never see a movie that close from the TV.

This link is interesting too: http://gizmodo.com/5926295/your-tv-is-a-retina-display
post #755 of 1095
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Originally Posted by insoc View Post

One question: I was wondering this: If the optimum viewing distance of a 84" HDTV for not harming your eyes or getting a headache and losing the view perspective is around 11-16 feet, wouldn't the human eye at that distance see a movie (1080p and up) the same way wheter at a 1080p/4K or 8K display? I mean, ultra clear "retina-view" displays make complete sense when the user is having the display very close to them (e.g. holding a smartphone) but if the user is far away everything seems retina like. I was in line waiting at a bank where there was a 32" HDTV connected to a PC showing some information. Up close to the display the pixelation was very noticiable but a little far away the image was the same as I get when using my iPad 4.

Isn't the same case with 4K HDTVs? I have read some opinions of people that have seen very big 4K display at store and at a confortable viewing distance they saw no difference at all and the only visible difference was when they were very near the display but the admitted they would never see a movie that close from the TV.

This link is interesting too: http://gizmodo.com/5926295/your-tv-is-a-retina-display

My distance to the 84" is 8 1/2 feet......perfect.
post #756 of 1095
Yep, nice and close wink.gif
post #757 of 1095
Question for owners of the 84LM9600.

Often when playing back 3D, the image appears to be quite "flickery" as if there is a cadence issue with the image in 3D. If I start and stop a number of times, I can eventually get to an image which does not do this and I get a truly spectacular image.

I am running a HTPC with Intel graphics and TMT6.

I am trying to determine if it is the software or the set.

Has anyone else had any issue with the playback of 3D on this set? Has anyone seen a issue like this before? Does anyone know what I'm talking about or what is going on? The 3D is quite often, not quite right.

Thanks
post #758 of 1095
BTW: really appreciate all the great support from AVSForum!
post #759 of 1095
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Originally Posted by PeterS View Post

Question for owners of the 84LM9600.

Often when playing back 3D, the image appears to be quite "flickery" as if there is a cadence issue with the image in 3D. If I start and stop a number of times, I can eventually get to an image which does not do this and I get a truly spectacular image.

I am running a HTPC with Intel graphics and TMT6.

I am trying to determine if it is the software or the set.

Has anyone else had any issue with the playback of 3D on this set? Has anyone seen a issue like this before? Does anyone know what I'm talking about or what is going on? The 3D is quite often, not quite right.

Thanks

I don't own one but try playing the 3D movie in a different bluray player if you have one, if it's still the same it's your tv settings or the movie itself. If its not , than it's an issue or setting with the software on your HTPC.
post #760 of 1095
I don't have any problems with 3D either through PS3 or PC. What is TMT6?

In todays ad Frys is advertising 4 more Mastered in 4K movies-Moneyball,Godzilla,Men in Black and Spider Man 2 for $12.99 to $14.99. I will buy Moneyball with Brad Pitt and report back.
post #761 of 1095
Total Media Theater 6.
post #762 of 1095
I hung mine yesterday and spent all day burning it in with Terminator 2 from about 5 feet. No headache, no banding just a beautiful image even before an attempt to calibrate. In my room the seating is about 10 feet and the image is quite nice from that distance. If I could move the seating closer I would move it to about 8 - 9 feet where I think it would be perfect.
post #763 of 1095
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Originally Posted by markmoser View Post

I hung mine yesterday and spent all day burning it in with Terminator 2 from about 5 feet. No headache, no banding just a beautiful image even before an attempt to calibrate. In my room the seating is about 10 feet and the image is quite nice from that distance. If I could move the seating closer I would move it to about 8 - 9 feet where I think it would be perfect.

If you were to seat about 8-9 feet from your 84 HDTV but it wasn't a 4K, just a "regular" 1080p display, could you spot a difference in image quality between both displays?
post #764 of 1095
If you were to seat about 8-9 feet from your 84 HDTV but it wasn't a 4K, just a "regular" 1080p display, could you spot a difference in image quality between both displays?[/quote]
Good question. Anyone up to donating the equipment necessary to do a blind side by side comparison?
post #765 of 1095
Did this at Abt when they first set up the system. It is highly dependent on source material. With 4k material or 3D material it is readily apparent. The biggest hing the 4k sets give you is density. The colors look better. The blacks are deeper.
post #766 of 1095
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Originally Posted by insoc View Post

If you were to seat about 8-9 feet from your 84 HDTV but it wasn't a 4K, just a "regular" 1080p display, could you spot a difference in image quality between both displays?

I also did this, using the Sony 4k 84" instead, and found that beyond 9 feet the difference between similar size units at 1080p and 4k the difference was not discernible. Meaning if the viewing distance was beyond 9 feet, with 20/15 vision, the 4k image did not look demonstrably superior or noticeably different than the 1080p material.

Closer than 9 feet however, from say 6 to 7 feet, the difference was noticeable, with the superior presentation going to the 4k material. Not mind-blowing, and nowhere near the massive visceral impact of the switch from 480p to 1080p in previous years, but it was at least noticeable and clearly better.

Moving closer, from 5 feet on in, the 4k material is back to having that "wow!" factor, very impressive, with no eye fatigue and no "too close" issues as with 1080p material at that range. The 4k image at that distance was like being a few feet away from a window in a home, you could watch it all day from that range with no headaches or any other symptoms. I sat at close as 3 feet watching the full Sony server demo loop and could have done it all day. Try that with a 1080p set and see what happens, ha.

But the caveat and main point here is the viewing distance in your home, if you're beyond 9 feet the upgrade to 4k is going to be extremely minor, if noticeable at all. If you're at that range or more, it's better to go for a 4k set for the other benefits they include, along with the 4k capability, rather than just for the 4k image alone as was the case when we all switched to 1080p sets.

Once the prices come down a bit more, those other benefits (passive full-rez 3D, better hardware upconversion, better refresh rates, and better contrast and overall presentation, etc) will make the purchase more justifiable.
post #767 of 1095
like to get one also but prices are high for me 4 children mortgage and all else is tight for me right now,,,but nice place for info thank you guys and congratulations to all who own one...
post #768 of 1095
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Originally Posted by gexxxy View Post

like to get one also but prices are high for me 4 children mortgage and all else is tight for me right now,,,but nice place for info thank you guys and congratulations to all who own one...

And it doesn't help when LG won't drop the price in Canada, versus LG doing so in the US. Being Canadian - they'll charge as much as they can get away with! (Would be interesting as to how much purchasing they push to the US with these policies. CP won't mind! Also, LG will NOT be bringing the 9700 series into Canada at last word!)
post #769 of 1095
If it helps any, my room is exactly 8 feet long. I will subtract a foot, which includes 5" inches from the mount plus panel, and 7" from my head to to the back of wall while I sit on couch. So 7 feet away and my Sharp 80 1080p is totally immersive, with no pixels in sight. Pixels are visible from 5 feet however. All that being said, I'm sure the equivalent sized 4K, would be slightly more razor sharp and noticeable (read better).
post #770 of 1095
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

And it doesn't help when LG won't drop the price in Canada, versus LG doing so in the US. Being Canadian -
Well the US back end rebate is ending today, if they do not implement a new one Sunday watch the price jump $1000 frown.gif
post #771 of 1095
I will have to check out the new 55" and 65" LG 4K TVs that are advertised to be in.

Ohyea 32 You have been unusually quiet?
post #772 of 1095
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Originally Posted by NSX1992 View Post

I will have to check out the new 55" and 65" LG 4K TVs that are advertised to be in.

Ohyea 32 You have been unusually quiet?

Yes, I haven't been around here much lately. Here about 3 weeks ago my Father had a stroke. Since that time I've been helping my Mother to care for him. It's been rough, but I'm staying positive, keeping my spirits up, and hanging in there.smile.gif My Father will start his Physical Therapy this Tuesday, so I'm hoping it will help him a bit with his mobility.

I have been able to enjoy some movies on the LG, being that my Father is at home with me. He loves watching movies, and has really enjoyed the LG.


Seth
post #773 of 1095
Welcome back Seth, we missed you.
post #774 of 1095
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Originally Posted by NSX1992 View Post

I will have to check out the new 55" and 65" LG 4K TVs that are advertised to be in.

Ohyea 32 You have been unusually quiet?

AVS info.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1481380/lg-la9700-55-65-uhdtvs-now-available-for-purchase
post #775 of 1095
Welcome back Seth. I sincerely hope your father is ok. Take care. smile.gif
post #776 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dreaux View Post

Welcome back Seth, we missed you.

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Originally Posted by Sir_Mark View Post

Welcome back Seth. I sincerely hope your father is ok. Take care. smile.gif

Thanks, guys.wink.gif It's been rough, but I'm hanging in there. My father has good days and not so good ones. This weekend has been a real challenge for him.

I hope before long, I will be more active here. I will drop in from time to time to say hi.smile.gif


Seth
post #777 of 1095
Here we go...I ordered the LG 84LM9600 from Chris on Saturday. He just sent me confirmation today for white glove delivery. I'm just hoping they send 2 guys and the delivery does well! eek.gif

My Gawd I can't believe I let you people talk me into spending this much on a friggin' TV, lol!!! I'm kidding of course, but everyone I told thinks I'm nuts, lol. My GF is now demanding an engagement ring....what 10 years of dating is too long, lol?

Seth, warm wishes for you and your family. You and Dreaux have been very helpful smile.gif
post #778 of 1095
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Originally Posted by Sir_Mark View Post

Here we go...I ordered the LG 84LM9600 from Chris on Saturday. He just sent me confirmation today for white glove delivery. I'm just hoping they send 2 guys and the delivery does well! eek.gif

My Gawd I can't believe I let you people talk me into spending this much on a friggin' TV, lol!!! I'm kidding of course, but everyone I told thinks I'm nuts, lol. My GF is now demanding an engagement ring....what 10 years of dating is too long, lol?

Seth, warm wishes for you and your family. You and Dreaux have been very helpful smile.gif

Congratulations!! I am sure you will love it. Big screen = much happiness on reservation!
post #779 of 1095
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Originally Posted by dreaux View Post

Congratulations!! I am sure you will love it. Big screen = much happiness on reservation!

Lol, thanks Dreaux! I'm getting a little excited. Still no delivery date...waiting patiently. smile.gif
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First time ever posting a picture; hope it works.

I want to thank Chris from Cleveland Plasma for a fantastic price and great overall service!
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