Calibration with Animated movies Like Disney

Originally Posted by TK-713 

Just wondering, I understand why we calibrate TV sets, but do they Calibrate to 6500 when making Animated movies like Disneys Tangled and cartoon type movies?

I just find on natural settings the colors are alot more bright and vivid and the picture looks great. When using the THX setting I find looks to dull. I do love the THX setting for MOVIES, and always watch it in THX mode.

Originally Posted by sotti 

In the olden days, content when on film, which has a different gamut than video.

Now the target for theatrical release is DCI P3 gamut and home video is rec709.

I believe it is typical for the directory of cinematography to sit in for signing off on both releases.

Originally Posted by diego hammer 

Thank you very much

the question is. What is the original image in a movie of blu-ray disc? The image on the monitor approved study to blu-ray disc? or display image obtained in our calibration because it is impossible to match the image that was obtained during the approval process in the studio monitor?

My question is given because I read that it is practically impossible to match approved image editing blu-ray disc because our viewers can not get that image on its own merits and because unknown details as gamma, white point, brightness room, etc. and because the studio monitor features are very different from our displays domestic. Must present this to the approver or simply not possible to match the fidelity of the original image?

Thanks for your answers

Originally Posted by GeorgeAB 

We appear to have a language barrier to some degree. I have been doing business with post production studios regularly for years, and talk to their engineers and technicians over the phone, and/or correspond via e-mail. These include subcontractors to the movie studios with names you probably recognize from watching the credits at the end of a movie on optical disc: Technicolor, Deluxe, Deluxe Digital Studios, E-Film, The Criterion Collection, Chainsaw Edit, Encore Hollywood, The Moving Picture Company, Colorflow Post, PostWorks, etc. It's not unusual (or "impossible") at all for them to have large format consumer displays (typically plasmas) that serve as review monitors for client approval use. This is done precisely to emulate what the end consumer might see when they purchase the DVD or BD. Viewing environment conditions for client review are also according to industry recommended practice.

Consumer video systems can deviate from standards and best practices in an endless variety of ways. The only way to get close to realizing image fidelity in a consumer system is to duplicate or emulate professional standards and conditions as much as possible. That is essentially why we have this forum. Just because an individual consumer's video reproduction system cannot match professional conditions in every regard, should we abandon all efforts to approximate ideal conditions? That is exactly what some readers of this forum conclude. If consumers genuinely value image fidelity, they will pursue it as far as they are practically able. Imaging excellence, in the context of fidelity, is only reliably obtainable by the application of imaging science principles, and motion imaging industry standards/recommended practices.

Originally Posted by diego hammer 


Thanks and sorry that because of the language has some difficulty understanding what you are teaching me

In that case what you mean. That the domestic edition Blu-Ray is finally approved by the director of the film on consumers screens, and not dominated and mastered on professional grade monitors study?

I read an excellent article which explained in detail how films like Avatar are corrected and approved by the director of the film in professional studies.

http://www.tlvexp.ca/2011/12/why-we-calibrate-myths/

Blu-Ray is mastered and approved in the professional grade monitor calibrated properly, or otherwise approved in everyday consumer display unprofessional that can more effectively simulate environments consumers' homes to the destination for the movies?

Not It would be more appropriate to approved finally Blu-Ray content on daily consumers screens, as that is the final destination of a film Blu-Ray?

Thank you very much and excuse my english

Originally Posted by GeorgeAB 


The THX Mode provided in THX Certified displays will be the most accurate factory pre-programmed viewing mode out of the box.

Not It would be more appropriate to approved finally Blu-Ray content on daily consumers screens, as that is the final destination of a film Blu-Ray?

Originally Posted by cesarion 

In that display consumer? in plasma, in led (localdimming or edge led)

In that manufacturer?is not the same image the obtained one in a plasma panasonic that in a pioneer,or in a samsung,more DFC in panasonic,more PWN in pioneer etc...

Originally Posted by sotti 

I've been in some studios and also in a few post houses.

While the Panasonic professional plasma line is quite popular, I think it's safe to say they look at all manner of consumer displays. Several people I've talked to love the Plasmas, others only want IPS based LCDs. Of course the most important decisions are of course made on the most accurate professional monitors.

The biggest difference I've seen between professional hardware and consumer hardware is not the performance, but it's calibration out of the box. Consumer gear comes with widget, dynamic maximizers and such and defaults to torch mode. Pro gear OTOH comes out of the box with a reasonable calibration and a settings menu that only has the features that would get used for switching colorspaces and setting up the display correctly. The truth is that a well behaved consumer display with a radiance 3D LUT in front of it is going to be very very close to the performance of the gear in the studio.

Originally Posted by diego hammer 

By PC or HTPC could get the same excelent results as using 3D LUT Lumagen 5X5X5?

thank you

Originally Posted by kiltedscotsman 

Exactly....as I said to one of my clients when giving analogies as to how and why calibration is done, when they asked the (frequent) question - "Well why aren't TV's act the same? They can make a model of car the same" And my answer was, "TV maker's don't make TVs all the same within a fine tolerance for many reasons, but one of them is because nobody ever got killed watching a bad picture!"