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post #301 of 472
I just got off the phone with TiVo tech support. Here is what I was told relative to series 3 DVRs:
  • 648 prefix: require 2 cable cards
  • 65 prefix: requires 1 cable card
  • 658 prefix: 1 slot
  • 652 prefix: 2 slots

Therefore, I need to avoid any series 3 units whose model number starts with 648 since I pay Comcast a rental fee for the 2nd cable card.
Pete
Edited by paroots - 9/12/13 at 7:22am
post #302 of 472
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Thanks. I'm assuming that the two you reference, will accept one M-card in lieu of two S-cards. Do they have one or two slots? That's good to know. I'm also assuming that you didn't mention the TCD648250B since you aren't aware of whether it requires one or two cable cards?
That's correct. These two are the HD models.
As I noted previously:
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the TiVo HD (series 3) has slots for two cable cards but only needs one M-card. S-card = single tuner card, M-card = multi-tuner card. So you can put two S-cards in a TiVo HD or a single M-card.
Apparently the XL only has one slot for an M-card.

The other one is probably the original S3 -- just google the model numbers and you will get all the information you want.

For your purposes you should be looking for the TCD652160 = TiVo HD/160GB. A lot of people selling those have upgraded the HDD to 1TB.
post #303 of 472
The original S3, with the OLED, came with a 250GB hard drive.
post #304 of 472
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

That's correct. These two are the HD models.
As I noted previously:
Apparently the XL only has one slot for an M-card.

The other one is probably the original S3 -- just google the model numbers and you will get all the information you want.

For your purposes you should be looking for the TCD652160 = TiVo HD/160GB. A lot of people selling those have upgraded the HDD to 1TB.
Thanks. That helps.
Pete
post #305 of 472
Would it be possible for this Tivo discussion to be moved to, perhaps, the Tivo thread now that a brand of unit has been settled upon? eek.gif
post #306 of 472
... or perhaps to the other thread that has been started on the same subject?
post #307 of 472

Both have been attempted. I gave up.

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... or perhaps to the other thread that has been started on the same subject?
Good call. It should be continued over there.
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post #310 of 472
Yes, this is the thread I started when it was suggested that we continue elsewhere. Not sure if it was the correct forum. I have noticed there seems to be much more activity here smile.gif Again I thank everyone for their response.
Pete
post #311 of 472
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Originally Posted by JHBrandt View Post

As it happens, we just went through a similar discussion over on the Homeworx thread (although a Homeworx is not appropriate for your needs).

You can record HD off the converter box with a Hauppauge 1212 and a PC, if (and only if) the converter box has component outputs. Otherwise, you're better off just hooking a DVR directly to the cable and not using the converter box at all. Since you're on Comcast, your signal will probably be encrypted soon if it isn't already, so that means a DVR that uses a CableCARD. That limits you to either TiVo (with a lifetime subscription, to avoid the monthly fee) or a PC and a CableCARD-compatible PC tuner.

So in your situation it boils down to either a TiVo with lifetime, or something that requires a PC. Not much choice, but that's life with encrypted cable.

I don't know if I'd go with a pricey brand-new Roamio, though. TiVo makes several CableCARD-compatible models. I think the Premiere 4 is still available new, and many other models are available used, with the lifetime subscription included. Shop around.
Thanks. I called Hauppauge because I really didn't understand what the unit was doing in conjunction with a PC. They did a good job explaining it. They did say that the better unit for interfacing with a PC is the 1512 for several reasons. Apparently the 1212 is optimized for use with a game console whereas the 1512 is optimized for use with a PC. It comes with PC software and a remote control which will allow the commercial skipping that I require.
Pete
Edited by paroots - 9/14/13 at 2:45am
post #312 of 472
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Originally Posted by paroots View Post

Thanks. I called Hauppauge because I really didn't understand what the unit was doing in conjunction with a PC. They did a good job explaining it. They did say that the better unit for interfacing with a PC is the 1512 for several reasons. Apparently the 1212 is optimized for use with a game console whereas the 1512 is optimized for use with a PC. It comes with PC software and a remote control which will allow the commercial skipping that I require.
Pete
I started a thread here (post #144):
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460986/hd-pvr-2-1512-owners-thread/120

but no one can explain how a Hauppauge can be used to skip commercials. Does anyone here have more info on this topic? Thanks.
Pete
post #313 of 472
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Originally Posted by paroots View Post

I started a thread here (post #144):
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460986/hd-pvr-2-1512-owners-thread/120

but no one can explain how a Hauppauge can be used to skip commercials. Does anyone here have more info on this topic? Thanks.
Pete
I will answer your question in the thread you started here.
post #314 of 472
SUBJECT: There Are Still a Few ReplayTV Die-Hards Around But...

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There is no mention of Replay TV? I switched to TIVO serveral years ago when there was a death nell, but I see there is still a somewhat active trade on eBay.rolleyes.gif
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...I wouldn't recommend starting out with one now. [Need an ATSC/ClearQAM tuner and possibly an IR Blaster code]

For one thing, it's SD, not HD. For the easy way, a TiVo (with a Lifetime Subscription) was a good choice. If you're more technically inclined, like myself, build a HTPC.

I run both the ReplayTVs (three 5XXXs - CBS, NBC, ABC) and a HTPC with WMC7 (SiliconDust HDHR3s and a Hauppauge PVR-1212) in parallel. Yes, the HD is much sharper @ the recommended 4' viewing distance eek.gif, but with my 'old eyes' (and a 32" Panasonic LCD HDTV @ ~12'), I can't tell much difference. wink.gif Plus, there's the built-in Commercial Advance on the ReplayTVs. cool.gif

There are literally THOUSANDS of posts on the topic of 'Recording HDTV'. Folks just have to read and decide how they want to spend THEIR money. biggrin.gif

EDIT: I clicked on the SUBSCRIBED LINK at the top of the page and just started reading this thread (where I had previously left off apparently), ignoring the dates. When I saw the reference to ReplayTV, I was inspired to post. It wasn't until AFTER I posted and got to the bottom of the page of 50 posts reading that I realized how many months old the post I replied to was... redface.gif
Edited by ClearToLand - 9/16/13 at 11:43am
post #315 of 472
I'd like to have the OP update the original post. I haven't found any information on here regarding the Stellar Labs DT-1200 from MCM Electronics.
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/30-2900

post #316 of 472
Thread Starter 
It's basically the same as the iView & the Homeworx, probably more so the Homeworx since it doesn't have the display the iView has. wink.gif
I will make a mention of it though.

Posts 1-4 updated.

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Edited by videobruce - 11/2/13 at 10:43am
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post #318 of 472
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Thanks for the heads-up!

 

I've incorporated that link in my thread on these Philips unit, as well as a new Magnavox TB745H/F7 here.

post #319 of 472
Thread Starter 
P&F. Now that was a well kept secret here considering it started in 2008. I wonder why it isn't F&P? tongue.gif (just kidding)

http://www.funaiworld.com/company/group.html
http://www.funaiworld.com/pressroom/2012/120111.html
http://www.encompassparts.com/pnfusa/
post #320 of 472
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P&F. Now that was a well kept secret here considering it started in 2008. I wonder why it isn't F&P? tongue.gif (just kidding)/

 

Probably not a secret to SD PhilMag HDD DVDR users. It's been in the Sticky thread's pg. 1 index and in the parts help file for many years. They just don't have any parts for those recorders beyond RF cable, remote and AC cord for the Philips 3575 and 3576, and they've been out-of-stock on those for many years. They seem to have been set up for HDTVs and haven't had time to update that 3rd link since 2009. In other words, mostly a "joke."


Edited by wajo - 11/12/13 at 7:08am
post #321 of 472
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Thanks for the heads-up!

I've incorporated that link in my thread on these Philips unit, as well as a new Magnavox TB745H/F7 here.
Interesting devices. With one tuner and no guide, they seem seriously overpriced as DVRs. But I guess they're better thought of as Internet streamers/media players that have incidental tuner/DVR functions. Looked at that way, their closest competition is probably the TViX and PHD-VRX. Both of those have two tuners and PSIP guides and so make much better DVRs, but you must add your own HDD - and they aren't sold at Wal*Mart.
post #322 of 472
I recently canceled cable and have just had coax going to my tv which gives me the basic channels, 8, 10, 13 Fox ect. I've relocated my TV to above my fireplace and there is no coax drop there so I can't get any OTA right now. I ordered a Mohu Leaf antenna and gave that a shot since the website said I'm well within the 35 range but I haven't had much luck with it. I was thinking that since I have a couple Tivo HD Premiers, can I use the as a basic "tuner" I guess is the right word. Basically I have HDMI run in the wall and need to somehow use a device to bring coax in and then go HDMI out to my tv. I will resubscribe to tivo if I must but I'm hoping to avoid that.

Is this possible?
post #323 of 472

The Tivos should work but won't get any guide or you won't be able to record anything other than a live 30 minute buffer.

You could also get something like a $40 iView but if you already have a Tivo why not use that.

post #324 of 472
Thread Starter 
2panther;
That would be best asked in the 'HDTV Technical' forum.
post #325 of 472
Hello. I am just checking in because I need to cut back on what we spend for entertainment. I have a DISH 722k and have minimal programming. My wife is really stuck on recording a certain soap opera every day. She can watch it the next day on line, but really wants to be able to record it from ATSC. Somebody suggested Simple TV. Is that one of my better choices currently? Also, I will be wading through the previous posts here , but it will take some time.
post #326 of 472

Jim, if I were you I'd just go with the iView 3500II from Amazon. ~$40 and should work fine for her use. It has a nice AVS thread(started by VB, the OP of this thread) and while it's no Tivo it does fine for daily HD timeshifting :)

post #327 of 472
Actually if the person is going to be using OTA (over the air) tv, get the homeworx model instead of the Iview. The reason the iview has a lot more posts is because of the problems with it.
Homeworx and Iview have the same chip set in them, so you can put one units firmware on the other, but you need the proper remote for the firmware, homeworx firmware with homeworx remote, etc.

Iview was marketing their unit for QAM (unencripted cable), but it is hit or miss.

But if you are gonna get one of these for just OTA get the homeworx. Look at amazon and other sites for reviews. But the homeworx is rated number one tv/dvr on amazon, and the iview is number two.

I bought a homeworx unit and iview unit last week and I regret getting the iview unit.
Edited by rgtaa - 11/18/13 at 6:27pm
post #328 of 472

rgtta, I won't argue with you since I've never used a Homework, it could indeed be better. I have a couple iViews and they work for my use (OTA timeshifting when both my Tivo tuners are in use). The Homeworx would certainly be another option for Jim and as you suggested he should check out both AVS threads, they are both generally on the first page in the HD Recorders page.

post #329 of 472
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Originally Posted by Jim1348 View Post

Hello. I am just checking in because I need to cut back on what we spend for entertainment. I have a DISH 722k and have minimal programming. My wife is really stuck on recording a certain soap opera every day. She can watch it the next day on line, but really wants to be able to record it from ATSC. Somebody suggested Simple TV. Is that one of my better choices currently? Also, I will be wading through the previous posts here , but it will take some time.

Agree with above posters: for a simple task like you describe, get an iView or Homeworx. IMO the Homeworx firmware is a bit better.

But they both forgot to mention: you also need an external USB-connected hard disk drive. The $40 for an iView or Homeworx isn't the complete solution. Still, your total cost should only be around $120.
post #330 of 472
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But they both forgot to mention: you also need an external USB-connected hard disk drive. The $40 for an iView or Homeworx isn't the complete solution. Still, your total cost should only be around $120.

Very true, I kind of forget about that since I have so many USB HDDs lying around. I'm having very good luck with my most recent Toshiba 1tb USB3 drive which only cost me $49 with a office supply coupon a few months back. The drive doesn't spin down when powered up but not in use but since my iView cuts power to the USB socket when OFF it doesn't bother me. I've been told the newer iViews(maybe the 3500II) don't cut USB power when OFF, if this is the case I might look for one that does(unless you want the HDD to spin 24x7, even when not in use).

Just saw a fluff piece on my local news last night(KSTP) where they were talking about all the vampires in the average house. TOP of the list, #1 in wasted electricity was DVRs(along with STBs) and they said the cost of just plugging one in(not even using it) costs in excess of $40/year in my market. They suggested unplugging the DVR when not in use but IMO thats not a very practical thing to do, with long startup times and how is it going to record if unplugged :rolleyes: anyway thats only one reason I'd prefer my HDD(not the whole DVR) to be powered down, if not spin down, when not in use.

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