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Posts 1, 2 & 4 updated.
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I see over on the Homeworx thread that folks are hooking it up to an XBox One. Has anyone tried pairing any of these other boxes with an XBox One? Seems like it might be a simple way to add a grid-style guide to the TViX or PHD-VRX. (A quite expensive upgrade if all you're after is the OneGuide, but if you were wanting an XBox One anyhow....)
Edited by JHBrandt - 12/24/13 at 12:38pm
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Anyone know about this model?  Viewtv VT-163

 

http://www.amazon.com/Viewtv-Converter-Recording-Function-Composite/dp/B00GGVPKKC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1386961738&sr=8-15&keywords=atsc

 

"Viewtv VT-163 ATSC Digital TV Converter Box and Media Player w/ Recording PVR Function / HDMI Out / Coaxial Out / Composite Out / USB Input"

 

Is it a rebrand of an existing model?

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^^^ yes it looks like one of the many incarnations of the same box, this one more like the iView than Homeworx because of the display and QAM capability.

Nice looking case, not sure it's worth the extra $25 but still well under $100. I'd like to see what the remote looks like though, too bad they didn't include a picture of it, would have been easy enough.....


Edited by jjeff - 12/13/13 at 1:18pm
post #365 of 472
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... more like the iView than Homeworx because of the display and QAM capability.
Nice looking case, not sure it's worth the extra $25 but still well under $100. I'd like to see what the remote looks like though, too bad they didn't include a picture of it, would have been easy enough....
I guess whether it's worth the extra $25 would depend on the firmware and the remote. All these boxes are basically the same hardware and probably start out with the same generic firmware, but each brand customizes the firmware for itself and its particular remote; and not all custom firmware (or remotes) are equal.

There could almost be a new thread on this forum just to compare and contrast all the iView/Homeworx-style boxes.
post #366 of 472
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^^^ yes it looks like one of the many incarnations of the same box, this one more like the iView than Homeworx because of the display and QAM capability.

Nice looking case, not sure it's worth the extra $25 but still well under $100. I'd like to see what the remote looks like though, too bad they didn't include a picture of it, would have been easy enough.....


Maybe - except the layout of the back is different then the iview and the homeworx units..

post #367 of 472
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There could almost be a new thread on this forum just to compare and contrast all the iView/Homeworx-style boxes.

 

+1

That would be very useful. It's further compounded by the different firmware versions and remotes available for the *same* box.

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^^^ yes it looks like one of the many incarnations of the same box, this one more like the iView than Homeworx because of the display and QAM capability.

Nice looking case, not sure it's worth the extra $25 but still well under $100. I'd like to see what the remote looks like though, too bad they didn't include a picture of it, would have been easy enough.....


Maybe - except the layout of the back is different then the iview and the homeworx units..


I don't have easy access to the back of my iView at the moment but I believe the back looks just like my iView, for sure it has the same inputs/outputs.

The front on the other hand is different, your link has several more buttons than my iView, for example volume, skip, stop, pause and I think FF and REW.

How do you think the back differs from a iView?

Upon looking at VBs iView thread I see the iView has the coax audio out in a different place than your link, other than that they look to have the same I/Os

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post #370 of 472
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Post 3 updated with the CM & Funai models (in the attachments only)

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Edited by videobruce - 12/24/13 at 7:43am
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Amazing! Thank you ,so much! A lot of stuff over my non-techie head,but a lot of education here,as well.I ,and I expect many other wanna be cord-cutters,appreciate your time and efforts.Kudos,My Friend....

post #372 of 472
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Thanks. I still have additional entries to fill in on those two new models. The in line table is another matter. redface.gif I also had a lot of help from owners of many of these. There is only so much you can gather by reading manuals.

Too bad certain individuals here don't seem to like factual criticism of certain over rated products claiming the opposite.
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As I'm sure you are aware, some people refuse to be helped.....We just keep on doing what we do and ignore them.The rest of us want and need what you have to offer, and I thank you for that!

post #374 of 472
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No, that isn't it. Your statement should read "Some people refuse to help".....just because they don't agree with someones view and claim the opinions are not fact based.
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TVPal run from149 dollars to 349 dollars on ebay

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Bruce: a few updates to this category on your comparison chart: "Program guide; PSIP and/or Pay (full)"

First, the PHD-VRX has moved from "PSIP" to "Both" smile.gif They added an option to use a Schedules Direct subscription (as I had suggested some time ago). The 7-day guide is $25/year.

Unfortunately, as of next month, the CM-7400 will be moving the other direction: from "Both" to "PSIP" frown.gif CM has announced the CM-7400 paid guide will be discontinued. I suppose you could wait until then to change the CM-7400 chart entry, but folks should probably know the paid guide is going away before buying a used one.

Finally, the DVR+ is "Both." The 14-day guide is free (you might want to see if you can add cost and length of the extended guide to the chart somehow) though given the CM-7400 news, one wonders how long it will last.
post #377 of 472
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Thanks. Yes there are a lot of "??" that need filling in including the last column. redface.gif
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Anyone know about this model?  Viewtv VT-163



 



http://www.amazon.com/Viewtv-Converter-Recording-Function-Composite/dp/B00GGVPKKC/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1386961738&sr=8-15&keywords=atsc



 



"Viewtv VT-163 ATSC Digital TV Converter Box and Media Player w/ Recording PVR Function / HDMI Out / Coaxial Out / Composite Out / USB Input"



 



Is it a rebrand of an existing model?

 



Installed the viewtv AT-163 last night which I bought form Amazon (on sale a few days ago for $40). Amazon has the model mislabeled. The manual clearly shows the model as AT-163 not VT-163. I hooked it up to my cable and it found all the QAM channels I wanted. Anyone find a website for the manufacturer for future firmware updates? The use of military time is a pain for programming, but otherwise this unit is great for the price. You can find a youtube video for this unit at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5tV1tKnRE
post #379 of 472
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That's is a high tech looking 3500 at almost 2x the price.
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Great job, Bruce!

 

But now I'd suggest that perhaps it's time to think about adding a new category for "Streamers" to your list of DVR's?

I note that you've specifically excluded "Simple.TV" from your list because, as strictly a streamer it requires another device before you can actually play the recordings on your TV, fair enough.

 

But I've noticed more and more people are wanting to get a "whole house DVR", and, short of using a PC (which seems to me overkill for the average consumer) the choices are few but growing. With the soon-to-be-released Tablo, this category seems to be getting some legs. Many will be eagerly awaiting a head-to-head comparison of Simple.TV with Tablo, once it's released! Tablo are taking advance orders for delivery next month.

 

There are already separate threads for both the Simple.TV and Tablo in this forum now, so we can keep current on developments there. But I'm not sure how this should be reflected in your master list(s) Maybe as a new sub-category of home DVR's? I'll just throw it out there for you to think about Bruce, along with anyone else who wants to wade in.

 

(P.S. Bruce, keep up the good work! I know everyone really appreciates being able to see, at a glance, what their various choices are on this confusing subject)

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Whole-house DVR streamers should probably be a new thread. Don't know if videobruce wants to tackle another comparison thread, but someone should.

There are also DVRs that fall into both categories (e.g., TiVo can be used either standalone or as a streamer, and someday the DVR+ may do so as well); they would appear in both comparison threads.
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Installed the viewtv AT-163 last night which I bought form Amazon (on sale a few days ago for $40). Amazon has the model mislabeled. The manual clearly shows the model as AT-163 not VT-163. I hooked it up to my cable and it found all the QAM channels I wanted. Anyone find a website for the manufacturer for future firmware updates? The use of military time is a pain for programming, but otherwise this unit is great for the price. You can find a youtube video for this unit at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5tV1tKnRE
Maybe it's the manual that has the wrong model number wink.gif

Watched the YouTube clip and the firmware looks the same as the iView 3500 and Homeworx HW-150PVR. The back panel is the same too, but the front panel has a few extra buttons (the iView/Homeworx have a power switch and channel up/down buttons only). Couldn't make them out from the pics at Amazon.com, though I doubt the extra buttons are worth an extra $30 compared to the iView.

Could you post a pic of the remote please? If it matches the iView or Homeworx, you could use the firmware corresponding to the remote.
post #383 of 472
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But now I'd suggest that perhaps it's time to think about adding a new category for "Streamers" to your list of DVR's?
It's not just another thread, it's another forum. IOW's, wrong department. wink.gif
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It's not just another thread, it's another forum. IOW's, wrong department. wink.gif


This would seem correct:

 

http://www.avsforum.com/f/39/networking-media-servers-content-streaming

post #385 of 472
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I believe I have pointed to that more than once. There is also a "PVR" thread which doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense since the two terms (PVR, DVR) are almost the same, splitting hairs so to speak.
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Which of these have Native (source direct) HDMI video output?
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Maybe it's the manual that has the wrong model number wink.gif

Watched the YouTube clip and the firmware looks the same as the iView 3500 and Homeworx HW-150PVR. The back panel is the same too, but the front panel has a few extra buttons (the iView/Homeworx have a power switch and channel up/down buttons only). Couldn't make them out from the pics at Amazon.com, though I doubt the extra buttons are worth an extra $30 compared to the iView.

Could you post a pic of the remote please? If it matches the iView or Homeworx, you could use the firmware corresponding to the remote.


Nope. AT-163 is printed on the unit as well. As for the price, I used a coupon on Amazon making it $40. The coupon is no longer valid. The remote is exactly like the one that comes with the Homeworx HW-150PVR except that it has the viewtv logo instead of the homeworx logo.

 

Under SYSTEM within the menu it says:

MODEL: AT-163

SW VERSION: 20130000 V1

HW VERSION: ABL7816_ATSC_09

 

The buttons in the font of the unit are for power on/off, menu, OK button, volume up/down, and channel up/down.

Hope this info helps.

post #388 of 472
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The manual clearly shows the model as AT-163 not VT-163.
A simple typo in the manual or the imported "Clear View Movies" decided to change the model number.
There is the probability that there is no website. It's just another knockoff of a existing design. It's also probability that there is and will be no firmware updates.

If you do a search for Viewtv VT-163, 90% of the valid hits point back to that Amazon page. Here are better details of the unit:
http://digitalmediarecorder.bestpriceblackfridaydeals.com/2013/12/26/viewtv-vt-163-atsc-digital-tv-converter-box-and-media-player-w-recording-pvr-function-hdmi-out-coaxial-out-composite-out-usb-input/

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Edited by videobruce - 1/16/14 at 3:26am
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A simple typo in the manual or the imported "Clear View Movies" decided to change the model number.
There is the probability that there is no website. It's just another knockoff of a existing design. It's also probability that there is and will be no firmware updates.

If you do a search for Viewtv VT-163, 90% of the valid hits point back to that Amazon page. Here are better details of the unit:
http://digitalmediarecorder.bestpriceblackfridaydeals.com/2013/12/26/viewtv-vt-163-atsc-digital-tv-converter-box-and-media-player-w-recording-pvr-function-hdmi-out-coaxial-out-composite-out-usb-input/

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As I stated earlier, the model number is clearly printed on the unit itself as well as in the system menu. So this appears to be a mistake by Amazon.

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Or a mistake for this DVD/kids toys seller. wink.gif
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