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post #211 of 359
Hi Guys......I've been reading up alot about Synology and their products and was about to pull the trigger on a DS713+ with a couple of 3TB WD RED drives. It is pricey but I wanted something that I could transcode video using Plex or DS Video to my iPad, Phone or simply in a browser when away from home.......looking at this thread, building my own NAS using a HP N40L looks like the way to go as it is much cheaper.......

......How big of an issue is the disk hibernation problem? I read earlier that this feature doesn't work (ie the disks do not spin down when idle). The reason I liked the Synology units is because they seem to have good power management when not in use/idle.........

......Question: Has anyone tested hibernating the NAS itself during Idle time and bringing it back up. Would this achieve the same thing as hibernating the disks? How would a custom N40L build fare in power consumption compared with getting a DS713+?

....I'm quite new to this and it is something I've wanted to put together for some time to have a central location for everything.....any info much appreciated! smile.gif
post #212 of 359
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Originally Posted by nilz1986 View Post

Hi Guys......I've been reading up alot about Synology and their products and was about to pull the trigger on a DS713+ with a couple of 3TB WD RED drives. It is pricey but I wanted something that I could transcode video using Plex or DS Video to my iPad, Phone or simply in a browser when away from home.......looking at this thread, building my own NAS using a HP N40L looks like the way to go as it is much cheaper.......
I don't think the CPU in the N40L would be adequate for transcoding. Perhaps others that have an N40L can chime in, but I recall the NXXL line to be relatively weak.
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Originally Posted by nilz1986 
......Question: Has anyone tested hibernating the NAS itself during Idle time and bringing it back up. Would this achieve the same thing as hibernating the disks? How would a custom N40L build fare in power consumption compared with getting a DS713+?
I don't think anyone has gotten hibernation to work properly on these custom builds (at least not with 4.1, not sure about 4.2) but in general the N40L is a pretty low power device. My old WHSv1 box had 6 drives (which never sleep), a cobbled together AMD X2 and 3 or 4 fans but I calculated it to cost about $8-10/mo to run.
post #213 of 359
Thanks for getting back to me blipszyc. I should have mentioned......I was using the N40L as an example but would be happy to consider another unit that would serve the purpose of transcoding......does anyone have any recommendations?....
post #214 of 359
I am just curious, since i dont know much about technology how safe are these files to download and try to install on a machine.
post #215 of 359
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Originally Posted by nilz1986 View Post

Thanks for getting back to me blipszyc. I should have mentioned......I was using the N40L as an example but would be happy to consider another unit that would serve the purpose of transcoding......does anyone have any recommendations?....
Might be tough to find something in that price range that can transcode well. Again, hoping someone else can chime in with some real world experience.

The other option is to custom build a rig, but at that point you might as well buy the Synology.
post #216 of 359
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Originally Posted by fparamo1979 View Post

since i dont know much about technology
i think you answered your own question. In general, a good understanding of PCs is highly recommended.
post #217 of 359
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Originally Posted by r3zon8 View Post

Update to DSM 4.2 Build 3211

Download here:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-XUWYZADfx1X3lxSFBuVDNSb28/edit?usp=sharing

Notes:
STRONGLY recommend you install/test on a clean USB disk. There is no 'upgrade' path. This is essentially just like reinstalling your DSM.

Hi All, does anybody have a live download link to the 4.2 DSM. All the links on this thread are dead:(

Thanks in advance,
post #218 of 359
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Hi All, does anybody have a live download link to the 4.2 DSM. All the links on this thread are dead:(

Thanks in advance,

I second that

or you can advise which one of these works :Link >>>
Code:
ukdl.synology.com/download/DiskStation/DSM4.2/3211/
Thanks..
Edited by lebaNONgov - 6/13/13 at 2:25am
post #219 of 359
have anyone actually try to roll this on top of an hp microserver and it was successfully?
how's the performance?

The new HP Microserver is coming out, the specs should be better.
Edited by drunkenmastera - 6/13/13 at 2:52pm
post #220 of 359
I was just wondering if someone can post the proper link to the google doc because looks like it isnt working.
post #221 of 359
The 3211 links are all dead. It was for 32-bit only.

If you want to try the 64-bit version (3202), the link is Here.

It supports:
NIC -
Intel Gigabits series for PCI and PCI-E (intel e1000 and e1000e driver base)
Realtek gigabits PCI-E series (r1868 driver base)

SATA -
Support embedded controller on MB: AHCI SATA controller after Intel ICH7.

All other hardware will need to use the older 4.1 version.
post #222 of 359
Well,this is my first post here on AVS, just to say what a cool thing this is smile.gif I just followed the startpost and now I have a running Pcynology. Yeehaw!
My specs:
Mainboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4-M Bios P1.50
CPU: i3-3220
RAM: 2*2GB KVR1333
HDD: 1*80GB and 1*500GB

I will test thismore and since my mainboard has 8 SATA ports, I think this will be my next CP/SAB/SB/AS and Plex machine. biggrin.gif I'm so happy biggrin.gif
post #223 of 359
i have setup synology 4.1 version on an HP microserver N54L and found it is pretty much not functional since the the NAS will stop responding after a few days, since no other computer in the LAN will be able to find the NAS any more. it just stops responding after a few days, shutting down and restarting will bring it back on, but only for another few days.

could anybody share your thoughts about what is happening and how to fix this? thank you in advance.
post #224 of 359
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Originally Posted by xiaoanri View Post

i have setup synology 4.1 version on an HP microserver N54L and found it is pretty much not functional since the the NAS will stop responding after a few days, since no other computer in the LAN will be able to find the NAS any more. it just stops responding after a few days, shutting down and restarting will bring it back on, but only for another few days.

could anybody share your thoughts about what is happening and how to fix this? thank you in advance.
Check to see what power saving settings you have in the BIOS on the N54L. I'm guessing that maybe an S3 or S1 mode might be trying to put the hardware to sleep and causing the problem you're seeing.
post #225 of 359
First off, thanks to r3zon8 for his work on this awesome project!

For people out there like me who think this is an awesome project, but are looking for working download links, as well as more builds with some additional hardware support, there's an entire forum dedicated to roll-your-own Synology distros. Link courtesy of some previous person in this thread. http://xpenology.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=5b2879786efa6d442642e0e9095acf3b

And for the couple people I've seen ask about getting this to work on older HP MediaSmart Servers: A buddy and I were each able to get it working on two older models (ex475, ex485) using the 4.2++ build at the link above.
post #226 of 359
is there anyway to modify this to allow more than one camera to be added to the surveillance station? I have 7 cameras which I need to add, but cannot.
post #227 of 359
Anyone?
post #228 of 359
Don't quote me on this since this is a educated guess nothing more. The company sells additional camera licensees for a fee. I figure you need those license to unlock additional cameras in this as well. This project emulates the actual software, just on different hardware so i don't see why it would not work if you just purchase the additional license and then add it to the station software. This again was just a guess since I never used this feature.
post #229 of 359
Hi Peeps, This is my first post, thanx to this great little forum I got my HP 54L running like a dream DSM4.1 but all the links for DSM4.2 were dead.

so after lots of surfing I finally found it.

Link to DSM4.2 because you know you want it. ;0) https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8EBucrZgOZDU0Z4b1JxMmFibm8&usp=sharing

DSM4.2 worked like a dream.

Just burn to new pendrive power machine off install PEN boot machine back up.

Use synology assistant to find machine on network mine had changed to ip11 go through menus and select upgrade.

Then point it to the new .pat file let it do its thing it should then reboot.

Hey presto you should now be running DSM4.2 with all your data and apps intact.

biggrin.gif Just sharing the LOVE wink.gif
post #230 of 359
The updated link does not work to googledrive. Can you please reupload.
post #231 of 359
Just tested it from my iPhone on the three network and can still connect to it. When I get home tonight ill download it and see if I can put it somewhere else. Any suggestion on a good place to upload it to would be much appreciated. ;0)
post #232 of 359
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Originally Posted by postdeals View Post

The updated link does not work to googledrive. Can you please reupload.

I added it to my google drive and was able to download it without a problem.
post #233 of 359
Hi, Wideboy,

I had the same hardware and intalled 4.1, it would stop responding (not able to find it in LAN) after a few days, a hard reboot would find it again. I posted here the issue, and somebody suggested it may be due power settings in Bios, but i still could not find the solution.

Could you let me know if you ran into the same issue with 54L, and your bios setting? or if any other possibilites?

The serve itself has been always on, it just stop responding.

Thank you
post #234 of 359
Hi Xiaoanri, I forgot to mention I've updated my bios heres my link to it https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B_Edi7OdbFZla2NPa3MtNkFia3c&usp=sharing this will allow hot docking of the hard drives and allow the unit to use the last to sata ports at full speed. Thats my next project to install 2 more hard disk into it. Future project is to find out if another PCI sata card could be fitted and then take the machine up to 12 disks.

Flashing the Bios is very easy with this zip all information is contained inside just follow the instructions

My machine is now pretty much rock solid I did some power outage tests while removing disks like popping a disk out then putting it back in started it building the array then pulling the plug on it half way through the build. It powered up fine and continued rebuilding the array no problem. Id say its probably better than my DROBO-FS but not as automatic when upgrading a small disk to a larger one. But because of the apps you can run on it and the CPU power it has over the DROBO-FS and faster file access and the fact that the £100 cash back from HP makes this a fantastic BOX

biggrin.gif Just sharing the final bit of LOVE wink.gif

Oh one more thing if your still having problems like one of my friends was just format all your drives and start a fresh, It worked for my mate...
post #235 of 359
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Originally Posted by elite-fusion View Post

is there anyway to modify this to allow more than one camera to be added to the surveillance station? I have 7 cameras which I need to add, but cannot.

I'm going to try this as soon as I get my hardware, the HP N54L at Newegg for $229 today, but I'm sure you can run more cameras, but I believe it's $50/camera after the initial freebie. I have a blog, NetworkCameraCritic on network camera product reviews and this would be an interesting one to review as Synology NAS's may work well but can be pricy as an NVR. Also, for what it's worth, some brands of cameras can write directly to a NAS, although not managed like an NVR.
post #236 of 359
Don't know Mr Hernandez but a lot of people buy Synology NAS because of Synology Surveillance Station which makes it into an NVR for network cameras.

I was able to download from the Google site, no problems. Thanks.
post #237 of 359
Hi,
Not sure if i should start a new thread or not, as i have a quick question about "roll your own", so apologies if inappropriate.

Am setting up some file storage and have an antec 900 case, with 3 x 5 HDD bays. See image. Have a Highpoint RocketRaid 2740 RAID controller.
Can the "roll your own" installation accommodate and use 15 HDD drives? Vaguely remember seeing something about 12 HDD's being the maximum that the synology software will recognize.

Thanks in advance.

post #238 of 359
Just got my HP N54L with the included 250GB drive, installed it per the instructions and it all works well. Have Surveillance Station installed with 1 camera and seems to be working well so far. It's actually pretty quite, more so than I thought. I installed it initially in my bedroom where nothing else is running and it was barely audible (maybe with 4 drives it would be louder). Put it back in my office and my desktop fan is way louder, so no chance of hearing N54L

I put the USB stick, a 1GB freebie I got at a trade show in the back of the device, so it's not even noticeable.
post #239 of 359
Just to report that I managed to run DSM on these hardwares:

MSI Z68M G45 (G3) with 6 sata port
i5 2500K
4GB Kingston Valueram

DSM Storage Management see my SATA Hardisk as DISK 1 and DSM USB Flashdrive as DISK 9.

Most function tested ok.

Restarting DSM will corrupt the Bootable flashdrive, a PITA issue but re-image flashdrive solves it.

I cannot update to DSM 4.2 using the 3211 firmware update on this setup (error 21) even though I D/L from a few sources.

Anyway nice to know this works on using my spare parts lying around. Might set it up as Media Server. BTW I'm already running DS411J before this.
post #240 of 359
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Originally Posted by BudakMelayu View Post

Restarting DSM will corrupt the Bootable flashdrive, a PITA issue but re-image flashdrive solves it.

I cannot update to DSM 4.2 using the 3211 firmware update on this setup (error 21) even though I D/L from a few sources.
Some folks here have found using an SD card or USB stick that locks helps to prevent the corruption on reboot. Also, I'm guessing you got 4.1 to work or did you get 4.2, 3206 to work? I don't know exactly what error 21 is, but I've noticed that the 3211 firmware doesn't support as many chipsets or network adapters as the previous versions.
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