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Please help, looking to UPGRADE the "front" of my HT. (fronts and center)

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
My current set up looks like this

Samsung 55" LED TV

7.1 SYSTEM:

Denon 890 (7 channel 105w per @ 8ohm, + front B alternate speaker option)

1 TL2 CENTER SPEAKER (125W MAX RMS)
6 TL2 LOUDSPEAKERS FOR FRONT, SURROUND, AND SURROUND BACK. (125W MAX RMS)


1 POLK PSW-111 8" SUBWOOFER (150W RMS)

Listening Room is aprox. 20x15

So what I would like to do is simply buy a quality pair of speakers for stereo listening, that I can simply swich over to when I want to listen to music.

I was told that the Polk Monitor 45b pair is a "match" for my TL2 speakers, which will now be used for surround and surround back only.
I then also need to decide whether or not, at that point, should I just sell the TL2 center speaker and get a center speaker that "matches" the 45b's, or whatever I decide to get, or just get the 2 new speakers for stereo, and keep the TL2 center.

Simply put

Option 1: Buy two bookshelf or floorstanding speakers for stereo listening ONLY (up to 150w RMS and no more than $200 total for the pair)

Option 2: Sell two of my TL2 loudspeakers and my TL2 center speaker, and replace with two new bookshelf or floorstanding speakers, and a matching center (all of which would need to "match" my TL2 surround speakers). ((My budget in this case would be more as I would be using $ from sale of fronts and center for new fronts and center))

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ANY TIME ANYONE SPENDS HELPING ME HERE.
Edited by djwest78 - 2/25/13 at 5:08pm
post #2 of 15
If you plan for the new speakers to be stereo only there's no need for them to timbre match your current speakers. I would suggest the Cambridge S30s for $219. You could still upgrade later and add the S50 center channel ($199).
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Why is it so impossible for me to ever get a reply on here anymore? what am I doing wrong? Is my original post too long?
I don't know how I could have properly asked this question without being at least as specific as I was.
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by djwest78 View Post

Why is it so impossible for me to ever get a reply on here anymore? what am I doing wrong? Is my original post too long?
I don't know how I could have properly asked this question without being at least as specific as I was.

Why are you complaining, postrokfan just answered your question. However, since I started a similar thread a few days ago and got nice suggestions, I'll try to help out. I am a newbie, but here is what i have learnt:

1 - I've seen a few threads where the answer to the question is cambridge audio s30s and not from the same person. Either they are that good, or someone is heavily promoting them.
2 - The 3 front should be from the same line, same manufacturer to have timbre matching. the surround speakers and subwoofer not as much.

My budget was $300 for the 3 front. I ended buying the Pioneer SP-CS22 and the 2 matching bookshelf for less than $200 based on the great reviews and the fact that I was saving $100. I am keeping my current sub and send my cheap onkyos to the back as surround. If they are good as they are taught to be, then I will get the tower for the front (about $260 a pair) and send the new bookshelves to the back.

I was also looking at the BIC America FH6-LCR but ultimtely decided on the Pioneer based on price and great reviews and Cnet professional reivew made me feel at peace. Hope it works.
post #5 of 15
Your budget is too low to get any replies. Sorry but its the truth.
post #6 of 15
Polk doesn't list the Monitors as matches for the TL2s. Maybe they will timbre match; maybe not. But the TL2s have small drivers. Better to get the matching center for the Polk Monitor series so that the center is not struggling to keep up.
post #7 of 15
The cheapest way to answer you question is to use and keep all the speakers you have in the same setup and just add 2 floorstanding speakers hooked up to the B speakers... I'm not saying that's what I would do its just the cheapest. I would buy 3 front speakers and you always want to have your front 3 be from the same brand and model line and preferably with the same size and amount of drivers in them. Your front 3 speakers should be matched and your 4 surrounds should be matched but they don't necessarily need to match fronts to surrounds. Although it is preferable to have matching speakers all the way around, but then you would be looking at buying 7 new speakers and then you might as well buy a new sub or 2. So the decision is really yours, you need to know what quality you want and how much you are willing to spend.
post #8 of 15
If you want to free up some extra money space I'm interested in buyin 2 TL2's and the Center. Since your planing on replacing them that could help your budget to get something better if you could go without for a few days. Just though I would throw that offer out there. Best of luck.
post #9 of 15
The other thing is that the Polk Monitor 25c is $139. If that's not a hardship, it really would be worthwhile to have all three Polk Monitors across the front sound stage for HT usage over using the TL2s.

However, it is possible to do all three for the front sound stage if you don't go Polk. The Pioneer SP-BS22 have been getting a lot of recommendations. Many people consider them better than the Polk Monitor bookshelves. The BS22 along with the matching CS22 center can be had for under $200 on Amazon. See this owners thread for the Pioneers here on AVS: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1278774/pioneers-speaker-genius-hits-low-price-point
post #10 of 15
You have a 600+ avr and you want to spend no more than 200 dollars on your fronts!? It is often recommended that your speaker budget should be 3x the av-r budget...
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by Elihawk View Post

You have a 600+ avr and you want to spend no more than 200 dollars on your fronts!? It is often recommended that your speaker budget should be 3x the av-r budget...

Just sold the center. Sorry. Still have 2 TL2s left that I am trying to decide whether to keep or not.

So I have read everyones posts and REALLY appreciate the feedback. My budget is larger as I sold off 4 of the TL2 loudspeakers and the center.

I now have $400 or so to budget towards two fronts and a center.
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Originally Posted by Elihawk View Post

You have a 600+ avr and you want to spend no more than 200 dollars on your fronts!? It is often recommended that your speaker budget should be 3x the av-r budget...

I am not planning on buying NEW speakers so the price compared to the receiver is relative.
For instance, you say that I have a $600 + receiver so I should have speakers that cost 3x more.

The Denon 890 I have is worth $600+ new but that's not what I paid for it.
So the same goes for the speakers. They will need to be worth about 3 times more NEW, compared to the receiver when it was NEW. But I can buy them used.

Not looking to be rude or argumentative. Just want you to know that I understand your point, and just that I would like for any further advise to be based on USED prices.

Thank you.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
I have made up my mind to buy in the RTI or RTI A series.

I have the opportunity to get an RTI 5 center speaker in excellent condition for $150. Seems like a no brainer.

1. Main concern is, will the RTI 5 match well with the newer RTI A3 bookshelf speakers?
2. Are the RTI 5 & RTI A6 (as opposed to the RTI A4) overkill when paired with RTI A3 bookshelf speakers?

Can my Denon 890 properly power anything higher in the RTI line i.e. RTI A5 OR RTI 8? I do not blast my music and movies, but I am a fairly critical listener. I also don't want
to tax my amp too much, though it is pretty hearty. It has a maximum output of 6.0 amps which is way more than newer models with equal wattage per channel ratings.

Thanks a lot all.
post #13 of 15
Just though I would let you know Polk has a 50% off sale this week on the TSi100 series are 100$ a pair and 90 for the center.
post #14 of 15
Sorry if my suggestion came off as rude, but I stand by my suggestion. 600 for a AV Receiver and 400 for your front 3 is a budget out of whack! For instance, i have a 250 dollar AV receiver, 400 dollar towers and a 200 dollar center! However, it is up to you how you spend your money!
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Elihawk View Post

Sorry if my suggestion came off as rude, but I stand by my suggestion. 600 for a AV Receiver and 400 for your front 3 is a budget out of whack! For instance, i have a 250 dollar AV receiver, 400 dollar towers and a 200 dollar center! However, it is up to you how you spend your money!

Not rude at all. Just very simply misguided. I will do my best one more time to explain to you how and why your formula, (at least the way you are applying it) is completely irrelevant. AGAIN...You are comparing apples to oranges. You keep mentioning my $600 receiver. And how I should be spending about 3 times more on my speakers than my receiver.

I BOUGHT MY RECEIVER USED FOR $300. IT WAS $800+ NEW

I told you that I am willing to spend $400 on my speakers. I told you I would be buying them used.

THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT ARE RELATIVE ARE THE PRICES OF THE RECEIVER NEW, VS THE PRICE OF THE SPEAKERS NEW. TO SAY THAT I SHOULD SPEND 3 TIMES MORE ON MY SPEAKERS THAN MY RECEIVER IS WORTH NEW, NO MATTER WHAT IS DUMB. SORRY MAN. YOU TRIED TWICE NOW TO SOUND INTELLIGENT AND CONCRETE IN YOUR POSITION...ONLY PROBLEM IS IT MAKES NO SENSE.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE SOME KIND OF A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION BASED ON THE RATIO OF COST OF RECEIVER VS COST OF SPEAKERS, THAN IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS

COST OF RECEIVER NEW:COST OF SPEAKERS NEW

I doesn't make ANY sense to just say, "you should spend 3 times more on your speakers than your receiver, period, no matter whether they are used or not." Just sounds ridiculous. What is spend on used items is 100% completely irrelevant.

Here is the best example I can think of to help you understand.

What if I find a pair of LSi speakers with ring radiator tweeters that handle 300w for $200 each. Uh oh, I just spent only 75% of what I spent on my receiver on my speakers. You see how that doesn't work. Don't be so quick to stand by your points and be defensive. Think about what you are writing. I have...Can you tell? biggrin.gif
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