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post #31 of 74
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

It kind of does, can you elaborate on that? Not doubting, just curious.

I have trouble thinking you are ever saying something mean with your profile pic.

Watercooling does leak in a way but not how MKA was saying.

I bought most of my stuff 10 years ago(~$200). The only thing that I can't still use today is my original pump(it died). As I have upgraded over time I have just replaced the mounting plate(when needed). Compared to using high-end air cooling I believe I have saved money but I might be delusional.

When my gpu fan died, I couldn't find anywhere to buy a replacement fan(I looked everywhere). A universal GPU waterblock was cheaper than aftermarket cooling or buying a new video card. I've moved this gpu block to future video cards also. I have bought gpu's with dead fans off ebay at much cheaper prices than normal.

This is very quiet also.
post #32 of 74
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Originally Posted by UltimateHTPCman View Post

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster and I am looking for advice on the ultimate HTPC. This is the final piece to my theater and it's time I upgraded my current HTPC.

My budget is $25,000 US.

I'd like it to match the rest of my system in terms of quality and capability. I need it to do everything a HTPC should do with extreme excellence. I think I would also like a 4U chassis to fit perfectly into my existing Rack. I have a Silverstone Grandia now, and while it's pretty it's not as functional. I struggle to find a good place for it. I think I'd like to incorporate this theater into my dual server rack or my theater racks. But I am clueless about cases; I need a suggestion for a good one.

Here is what I have my eyes on:


Motherboard:
ASRock X79 Extreme11 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157327

CPU:
ntel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.5GHz (4.0GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 150W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73970X
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116877

Memory:
CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 64GB (8 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 Desktop Memory Model CMD64GX3M8A2133C9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233363

PSU:
SeaSonic Platinum-1000 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151105

GPU: ( multiple )
PowerColor AX7990 6GBD5-2DHJ Radeon HD 7990 6GB 384-bit x2 GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131483

SSD: (x8 in RAID0?)
OCZ Vector Series VTR1-25SAT3-512G 2.5" 512GB SATA III MLC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-917

HDD: (16 in RAID 0)
Western Digital WD VelociRaptor WD1000DHTZ 1TB 10000 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236243

Case:

??????

I would like a 24 bay 4U case but I don't want some crappy metal box like a Norco 4224. I'd like something that is a little bit nicer but the supermicro stuff appears to only come with a PSU. Is that a bad thing ? Anyone have advice on a case?



Some questions:

- What is the best way to set up the Hard drives? I would like 16TB local storage in this machine, and everything would be backed up to my main server so I don't worry about any back up. I was thinking of 2 SATA RAID cards and running the Velociraptors in RAID0. Perhaps two sets of 8 for 8TB each total storage. So my SSD OS would be my C drive. 8TB would be my D drive. And the other 8TB would be my E drive. Make sense? What is a good Sata card?

- I am only going to use 8 Sata ports on the motherboard for the SSD's. Can I use two of Intel X79 SATA3 ports to cache the RAID0 array ? If so, what SSD would make a good cache drive ?

-Is it worth using a ram disk to cache my OS drive or storage drive ? Should I run the system on only 32GB of DDR2133 and use the remaining 32GB for a cache to speed things up.

- Can I fit 4 GPU with this motherboard ? Does it have enough PCI lanes to run x16 by 4 ? This might matter with the case I choose too since I will need clearance for the GPU cards.

- Is 1000watt Seasonic enough PSU ??? Should I get the 1250watt ?

- Am I better off with a PCI x16 SSD card for my OS ? Would that provide better performance ?

-I already own a few HD homerun prime cable card network tuners, what is the maximum number of channels I can record with this proposed build ???

I appreciate your advice and intelligent replies. Thank You.
-Peter

I sometimes wonder if this is a thread just to show off how much you have to spend (one of those 'look what I got vs what you don't got'). For the specs you listed above, that would be perfect for a top video-editing machine, but VERY overkill for an HTPC. 64GB of RAM? No program or software that I know of will never use anywhere that amount of RAM at one time. I run my HTPC on an i5 system and it runs perfectly with all the content I throw at at.

But hey, to each their own.
post #33 of 74
There really is no sense in spending $25k on a HTPC. Maybe go all out and spend $2k or $3k and throw the rest into building a storage server.

Either way, someone willing to spend $25k on a HTPC probably isn't one to actually build/configure it themselves. For $25k you tell someone what you want to happen and it happens.
post #34 of 74
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Really ?? I thought that was a cartoon or PC generated image.

That theater in his Avatar is real ?

lol.....

Sarcasm wasn't really needed. I'm sure not everyone has seen that theater before.
post #35 of 74
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Originally Posted by macks View Post

I have trouble thinking you are ever saying something mean with your profile pic.

Watercooling does leak in a way but not how MKA was saying.

I bought most of my stuff 10 years ago(~$200). The only thing that I can't still use today is my original pump(it died). As I have upgraded over time I have just replaced the mounting plate(when needed). Compared to using high-end air cooling I believe I have saved money but I might be delusional.

When my gpu fan died, I couldn't find anywhere to buy a replacement fan(I looked everywhere). A universal GPU waterblock was cheaper than aftermarket cooling or buying a new video card. I've moved this gpu block to future video cards also. I have bought gpu's with dead fans off ebay at much cheaper prices than normal.

This is very quiet also.


I wasn't doubting the leaking aspect, just the cost. I didn't understand how with the relatively high initial investment of a water cooling system, it would save money. You're explaination makes sense. Thank you.
post #36 of 74
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

I wasn't doubting the leaking aspect, just the cost. I didn't understand how with the relatively high initial investment of a water cooling system, it would save money. You're explaination makes sense. Thank you.

It normally doesn't smile.gif
post #37 of 74
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Really ?? I thought that was a cartoon or PC generated image.

That theater in his Avatar is real ?

lol.....

Sarcasm wasn't really needed. I'm sure not everyone has seen that theater before.

I didn't know it was real. Seriously it seemed so excessive as to be fake or fantasy. That actually exists ??? I am genuinely impressed.

I googled it out of curiosity.
post #38 of 74
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I didn't know it was real. Seriously it seemed so excessive as to be fake or fantasy. That actually exists ??? I am genuinely impressed.

I googled it out of curiosity.

Oh, I misunderstood. I apologize.

That theater is pretty crazy. The guy has >$1000 a month electric bill.
post #39 of 74
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Oh, I misunderstood. I apologize.

That theater is pretty crazy. The guy has >$1000 a month electric bill.

When you're Batman...you don't care how much the electric bill totals every month.

http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/8/5/awesome-dark-knight-home-theater-system.html
post #40 of 74
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Originally Posted by Dropkick Murphy View Post

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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Oh, I misunderstood. I apologize.

That theater is pretty crazy. The guy has >$1000 a month electric bill.

When you're Batman...you don't care how much the electric bill totals every month.

http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/8/5/awesome-dark-knight-home-theater-system.html

That's a pretty slick looking theater. I'm not a batman fan that much but I appreciate the detail and well thought out design.

Did I see a bat mobile in the background ???
post #41 of 74
Well....then there's this guy in California who built a concrete foundation....for his....subs... smile.gif and built the house around that.
post #42 of 74
Well, if you're going to have superhero hardware, you have to start with an Oracle Exadata Storage Server as seen in "Ironman" or it's not legit. IJS. It should be hardened too against fire, earthquake, etc. probably with fiber to off-site storage.
post #43 of 74
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Originally Posted by kapone View Post

Well....then there's this guy in California who built a concrete foundation....for his....subs... smile.gif and built the house around that.

Are you talking about yourself ?
post #44 of 74
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Are you talking about yourself ?
Oh hell no. I like music, but not THAT much.
post #45 of 74
So you're telling me that you're not about to build a folded horn into your subfloor. Pretty weak man.
post #46 of 74
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

So you're telling me that you're not about to build a folded horn into your subfloor. Pretty weak man.

I appreciate dedication and take no prisoners and no compromising approach.

Who's build is that ?
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post #48 of 74
holycrap!
post #49 of 74
Definitely not something that's going to pass WAF.
post #50 of 74
It looks very old, somehow.
post #51 of 74
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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Definitely not something that's going to pass WAF.

If it doesn't then I think you've got the perfect spot to put her. eek.gif
post #52 of 74
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

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Originally Posted by BllDo View Post

Definitely not something that's going to pass WAF.

If it doesn't then I think you've got the perfect spot to put her. eek.gif

lol.
post #53 of 74
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

If it doesn't then I think you've got the perfect spot to put her. eek.gif

You're going to get that NAG tone in your subwoofer though.
post #54 of 74
@ OP

Did you die ?

Tell us more about your intended set up. I'm genuinely interested in the rest of your system.
post #55 of 74
post #56 of 74
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

@ OP

Did you die ?

Tell us more about your intended set up. I'm genuinely interested in the rest of your system.

No. I am not dead. Just busy biggrin.gif I am sorry I did not check back sooner. Thank you for the few with intelligent replies. I'm digging the discussions as extreme performance is passion of mine. My theater is actually being upgraded which is the reason for my post. I need a HTPC with 4k resolution capability. I'm not 100% sure what is the best way to go.

To answer your question I have a JVC DLA-RS4000U Projector that has 4096 pixel resolution capabilities. It's the main reason why I need to upgrade my HTPC now. I'd like to get something that is rack mount this time. Given this information what is everyone's suggestion ?
post #57 of 74
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Originally Posted by macks View Post

I have trouble thinking you are ever saying something mean with your profile pic.

Watercooling does leak in a way but not how MKA was saying.

I bought most of my stuff 10 years ago(~$200). The only thing that I can't still use today is my original pump(it died). As I have upgraded over time I have just replaced the mounting plate(when needed). Compared to using high-end air cooling I believe I have saved money but I might be delusional.

When my gpu fan died, I couldn't find anywhere to buy a replacement fan(I looked everywhere). A universal GPU waterblock was cheaper than aftermarket cooling or buying a new video card. I've moved this gpu block to future video cards also. I have bought gpu's with dead fans off ebay at much cheaper prices than normal.

This is very quiet also.

Water cooling in a computer always seemed like a very bad idea to me. The ideal HTPC uses low TDP processors and passive cooling or cooling with very low fan rpm's. The main place I can possibly see running up the cost is building a giant NAS with a bunch of drives, but the industry doesn't want you to store movies on hard drives.
post #58 of 74
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Originally Posted by UltimateHTPCman View Post

No. I am not dead. Just busy biggrin.gif I am sorry I did not check back sooner. Thank you for the few with intelligent replies. I'm digging the discussions as extreme performance is passion of mine. My theater is actually being upgraded which is the reason for my post. I need a HTPC with 4k resolution capability. I'm not 100% sure what is the best way to go.

To answer your question I have a JVC DLA-RS4000U Projector that has 4096 pixel resolution capabilities. It's the main reason why I need to upgrade my HTPC now. I'd like to get something that is rack mount this time. Given this information what is everyone's suggestion ?

AMD will get you to 4096x2160. Should just be black bars added from your projector. You don't need a $25,000 HTPC to playback 4096x2160. There is a good chance that your old HTPC would be fine with just a video card upgrade. YMMV
post #59 of 74
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Originally Posted by UltimateHTPCman View Post

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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

@ OP

Did you die ?

Tell us more about your intended set up. I'm genuinely interested in the rest of your system.

No. I am not dead. Just busy biggrin.gif I am sorry I did not check back sooner. Thank you for the few with intelligent replies. I'm digging the discussions as extreme performance is passion of mine. My theater is actually being upgraded which is the reason for my post. I need a HTPC with 4k resolution capability. I'm not 100% sure what is the best way to go.

To answer your question I have a JVC DLA-RS4000U Projector that has 4096 pixel resolution capabilities. It's the main reason why I need to upgrade my HTPC now. I'd like to get something that is rack mount this time. Given this information what is everyone's suggestion ?

Wow. What do you run for audio ?
post #60 of 74
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Originally Posted by jeffkro View Post

Water cooling in a computer always seemed like a very bad idea to me. The ideal HTPC uses low TDP processors and passive cooling or cooling with very low fan rpm's. The main place I can possibly see running up the cost is building a giant NAS with a bunch of drives, but the industry doesn't want you to store movies on hard drives.

I game on my htpc also. That's why I moved the watercooling over. Video cards are loud, watercooled video cards aren't.
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