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post #151 of 309
Loved seeing Scully in last night's episode. She doesn't age! biggrin.gif
post #152 of 309
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

I just wish they would the whole hallucination stuff with Will, man that is getting sooo old and is just filler. The walls pouring water, multiple scenes, means nothing and we waste a large chunk of the show watching Will look all nervous at the running water.
The hallucinating is fine with me. In fact, I think the elk Will keeps "seeing" is his fevered brain interpreting that Hannibal is the killer and he's just not reading it right due to their relationship together and Hannibal's relationship to law enforcement. Will's subconscious knows that Hannibal is the bad guy(as represented by the elk) but he's not consciously connecting the dots.
post #153 of 309
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Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post

And he's too stupid to seek medical attention or see the blindingly obvious signs in front of him.

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Actually, he did seek medical attention. He was convinced by medical professionals that his problems are psychological.
Yes, he did seek medical attention and was convinced that it was psychological and not physical. My objection to this scenario is that he didn't seek a second opinion, especially since it was his brain that was the cause of his discomfort. Then again, as we've seen, his "damaged" brain is probably not working correctly so he may not have even considered a second opinion.

At the end of the day though I am a bit disappointed that a second opinion was not introduced given his apparent functional condition, he's still going to and interpreting crime scenes, you'd think a thought or two about his own medical condition might cross his mind.
post #154 of 309
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Yes, he did seek medical attention and was convinced that it was psychological and not physical. My objection to this scenario is that he didn't seek a second opinion, especially since it was his brain that was the cause of his discomfort. Then again, as we've seen, his "damaged" brain is probably not working correctly so he may not have even considered a second opinion.

At the end of the day though I am a bit disappointed that a second opinion was not introduced given his apparent functional condition, he's still going to and interpreting crime scenes, you'd think a thought or two about his own medical condition might cross his mind.

This is impossible to have happened in real life, btw. No way that neurologist would've gone along with it. It would've been the end of his career. Even if that guy was a psycho like Hannibal, the logistics were impossible. The way they did it, it's like the neurologist owned his own CT scan machine (or MRI, whatever) and did it in his office. IRL, there would've been one or more techs at least to run the test, and a radiologist to read and interpret the results and write the report. Hannibal would've had to kill them too and altered the medical records.

Also, shouldn't an FBI consultant and instructor in behavioral science know a little something about brain diseases, by osmosis if nothing else. Because, you know, the brain has a little something to do with behavior. Failing that, he could've googled his symptoms even before talking to anyone.
Edited by barth2k - 6/16/13 at 4:11pm
post #155 of 309
What happened in the last 5 minutes of the show? I lost signal right when Abigail entered the house and saw Hannibal.
post #156 of 309
Abigail began questioning Hannibal if he had killed people, his response was "way more than your father" she replied "Are you going to kill me?" he responded "I'm sorry girl" grabbing her by the neck... no more can be seen after that (we are all supposing he kills her)

Well somebody else could fill in the rest but that what stick with me.
post #157 of 309
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

The hallucinating is fine with me. In fact, I think the elk Will keeps "seeing" is his fevered brain interpreting that Hannibal is the killer and he's just not reading it right due to their relationship together and Hannibal's relationship to law enforcement. Will's subconscious knows that Hannibal is the bad guy(as represented by the elk) but he's not consciously connecting the dots.

What in the world links Hannibal to the Elk? The Elk doesn't do anything but stand there (and its antlers are on fire, which represented the fever and high temp. he had), not sure how his mind is trying to tell him the Elk is Hannibal when it doesn't do anything but stand there and walk away.
post #158 of 309
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

What in the world links Hannibal to the Elk? The Elk doesn't do anything but stand there (and its antlers are on fire, which represented the fever and high temp. he had), not sure how his mind is trying to tell him the Elk is Hannibal when it doesn't do anything but stand there and walk away.

I thought it was the moose from Norhern Exposure.

Which doesn't make sense either because that thing should be dead by now.
post #159 of 309
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

What in the world links Hannibal to the Elk? The Elk doesn't do anything but stand there (and its antlers are on fire, which represented the fever and high temp. he had), not sure how his mind is trying to tell him the Elk is Hannibal when it doesn't do anything but stand there and walk away.

While I originally thought that was a stretch, I then remembered that Will did see either a picture or a drawing of an elk in Hannibal's office once. I guess that could be the link.
post #160 of 309
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

What in the world links Hannibal to the Elk? The Elk doesn't do anything but stand there (and its antlers are on fire, which represented the fever and high temp. he had), not sure how his mind is trying to tell him the Elk is Hannibal when it doesn't do anything but stand there and walk away.

Hobbs' attic was full of deer and elk racks - he was obsessed with them. Will sees himself slowly becoming Hobbs, so that imagery is bubbling up in his subconcious. Hannibal played that up by "mounting" one of his victims on a set of deer antlers out in that field a few weeks back, intending to further implicate Hobbs. At least that's what I think happened, unless Hobbs did that deer antler killing/mounting himself.
post #161 of 309
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While I originally thought that was a stretch, I then remembered that Will did see either a picture or a drawing of an elk in Hannibal's office once. I guess that could be the link.

It was a little figurine on a table.
post #162 of 309
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Hobbs' attic was full of deer and elk racks - he was obsessed with them. Will sees himself slowly becoming Hobbs, so that imagery is bubbling up in his subconcious. Hannibal played that up by "mounting" one of his victims on a set of deer antlers out in that field a few weeks back, intending to further implicate Hobbs. At least that's what I think happened, unless Hobbs did that deer antler killing/mounting himself.

None of that points to my original statement that the moose could not point to Hannibal. Will doesn't know Hannibal mounted someone on an antler and would have no reason to make that connection as he never saw it and it never came up. Having a lot of antlers in the attic of someone's house does not mean that he would believe it was Hannibal.

Having the antlers explains his vision just fine, but it doesn't explain the previous poster stating the moose was Will's mind telling him it was Hannibal.
post #163 of 309
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

None of that points to my original statement that the moose could not point to Hannibal. Will doesn't know Hannibal mounted someone on an antler and would have no reason to make that connection as he never saw it and it never came up. Having a lot of antlers in the attic of someone's house does not mean that he would believe it was Hannibal.

Having the antlers explains his vision just fine, but it doesn't explain the previous poster stating the moose was Will's mind telling him it was Hannibal.

That's true. I misunderstood the question. I don't get the connection to Hannibal either, unless it's the figurine as zeus mentioned. Or maybe Will is just making the connection because of his peculiar mojo.
post #164 of 309
It was just a guess, the elk means something to Will, and while it would seem to link directly to Hobbs I think it has an even deeper message to Will about Hannibal, after all, the show is about the dynamic between Will and Hannibal, not Will and Hobbs.
post #165 of 309
Yes, we know Will is piecing it together. His dream/vision in the airplane where he confronts Abigail at the cabin asking if she was a hunter or fisherman for her father showed his subconscious knowledge of the part she played for dad. Fondling the statue of the elk does not, I think, make any connection for Will to Haninibal's involvement in the murders. He had those visions of the elk from the start, even before he met Hannibal, IIRC.
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Marvelous finale, Mads and Dancy should get some awards..

Anyone here wanted some Abi-veal? Dr. Scully seemed to enjoy her
post #168 of 309
Real mind-blower of an ending. Glad there will be a second season. Mads should get an award; he was amazingly creepy, yet he made Hannibal believable as some sort of mad genius. Wish there had been more backstory on him - maybe next year.
Edited by archiguy - 6/22/13 at 9:04am
post #169 of 309
Anyone catch the music at the end when Hannibal visited Will? It's like a tie-in to the movies. The sequel to Silence of the Lambs used that music. I can't believe my memory is that good, but I thought it was clever to use that music. Anyone else get the connection?
post #170 of 309
I thought Hannibal kept getting better as the season progressed and that the finale was the best episode of the season. I'm still trying to figure out whether Dr. Du Maurier is aware of Hannibal's predilections. The end of this episode was the mirror image of the aftermath of Will having discovered that Hannibal was a serial killer in Red Dragon. In that one, although Hannibal was captured and incarcerated in a mental hospital, it wasn't until after he had almost killed Will. In the TV show, Hannibal has convinced the authorities that Will is a serial killer and it's Will who is in mental institution, while Hannibal is still free as a bird. That's an interesting twist, to say the least.

Hannibal has a really strong cast. Both of its stars, Hugh Dancy as Will Graham and Mads Mikkelsen as Hannibal Lecter, have been great. I have also been very impressed with the performances of all of the supporting players. There hasn't been a weak link in the bunch. In this connection, I hope that Dr. Du Maurier, played by the beautiful and talented Gillian Anderson continues to be a part of the show. Bring on Season 2!smile.gif
post #171 of 309
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Originally Posted by Heinrich S View Post

Anyone catch the music at the end when Hannibal visited Will? It's like a tie-in to the movies. The sequel to Silence of the Lambs used that music. I can't believe my memory is that good, but I thought it was clever to use that music. Anyone else get the connection?

It's a popular piece of music wink.gif has been used in many movies and shows smile.gif

I didn't get the connection you did however but do know the piece.

Great ending to the season NBC has let this show breathe and hopefully it gets to stay on for a bit.
post #172 of 309
Was the clock Will drew for Hannibal really normal (I forgot) or did Hannibal doctor it?

What is Hannibal doing with his psychiatrist? What is his game here. She seems to know SOMEthing about him. She has his flat affect, and she also has a history with at least one patient who got violent. Did she drive him to it, too?

PS: I love GA, but I think her performance as the shrink is too weirdly mannered. For a better performance from her, check out the BBC series The Fall. She plays a police inspector. It's currently on netflix streaming.
post #173 of 309
Yes the clock by Hannibal is doctored. As we're the brain scans of wills that Hannibal ordered "doctored".
post #174 of 309
From Vulture,
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Hannibal Wants David Bowie


Ready your online petitions, cultivate your hashtags, don your Labyrinth wigs: David Bowie has been offered a role on Hannibal. "We have reached out to David Bowie to see if he's interested and available," creator Bryan Fuller tells E! News. "We would love for him to play Hannibal's uncle, who is a character from the literature and in the books." Bowie hasn't said yes yet, but this would be some truly A+ guest-casting in the cheekbone department alone. Plus, where else are you going to encounter a totem pole made of dead bodies, David Bowie? Embrace this.

http://www.vulture.com/2013/06/hannibal-wants-david-bowie.html?mid=vulture_newsletter&utm_source=cheetah&utm_medium=email#


I agree with the author, "embrace this"!
post #175 of 309
If there is a person who can out creep Mads it's Bowie!
post #176 of 309
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Marvelous finale, Mads and Dancy should get some awards..

Anyone here wanted some Abi-veal? Dr. Scully seemed to enjoy her

What I took from the Abi-veal scene with Hannibal and Scully was that she is aware of his extra-curricular activities. Said something to the effect of you need to be more careful and then a reference to Abigail being young ala the veal. Not sure, I just think there is more to their past and she does indeed know something.

Was watching the finale and I immediately recognized the music. Mentioned it to the wife and the irony of the role reversals with Will being behind bars. And loved Hannibal's devious little smile at the end.
post #177 of 309
I am really enjoying this show. And I could not be happier that we will see a 2nd season. This would have been a terrible way to end it.

So am I to assume that this next season will take us up to the "Red Dragon"?

They have definitely changed some things around, and I look forward to seeing how they get back to the true ending.

The acting has been fantastic. I am not a huge fan of Fishburne. But I think he has really captured the unfeeling cutthroat Jack Crawford. Dancy and Mikkelson have been award worthy.
post #178 of 309
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What I took from the Abi-veal scene with Hannibal and Scully was that she is aware of his extra-curricular activities. Said something to the effect of you need to be more careful and then a reference to Abigail being young ala the veal. Not sure, I just think there is more to their past and she does indeed know something.

I think she knows there's something strange about him, that there's something not quite right simmering below the surface. But I don't think she even suspects that he's a serial killer/cannibal. If she did and didn't turn him in she'd not only be violating her ethical code of conduct but also breaking the law. She's pretty buttoned down, especially after her close call with death. She doesn't strike me as the type who would in essence be an accomplice to such crimes.
post #179 of 309
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I am really enjoying this show. And I could not be happier that we will see a 2nd season. This would have been a terrible way to end it.

So am I to assume that this next season will take us up to the "Red Dragon"?

They have definitely changed some things around, and I look forward to seeing how they get back to the true ending.

The acting has been fantastic. I am not a huge fan of Fishburne. But I think he has really captured the unfeeling cutthroat Jack Crawford. Dancy and Mikkelson have been award worthy.

Never assume it just leads to bad places wink.gif I would not go by the preset canon of Hannibal to try to guess where it will leave off in future seasons.
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I think she knows there's something strange about him, that there's something not quite right simmering below the surface. But I don't think she even suspects that he's a serial killer/cannibal. If she did and didn't turn him in she'd not only be violating her ethical code of conduct but also breaking the law. She's pretty buttoned down, especially after her close call with death. She doesn't strike me as the type who would in essence be an accomplice to such crimes.

If history with shows like this have taught us anything it's to expect the unexpected.
post #180 of 309
I saw this on a different site. This series has planned for 7 seasons. Fuller's words:
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"In the first season we have this weird bromance between Will and Hannibal, season two is the nasty break up and the third season would have a fugitive angle to it, the fourth season would be 'Red Dragon,' the fifth season would be in the realm of 'Silence Of The Lambs,' the sixth season would be 'Hannibal,'" Fuller says.

He continues, "In the seventh season it would be interesting to see Will Graham and a Clarice Starling type character come together for an adventure with their nemesis, Hannibal Lecter."

My notes: 1) He mentions "Clarice-type character" because he doesn't know yet if he will get the rights to the original character. 2) By saying "coming together" doesn't necessarily mean they will hunt down Hannibal together, maybe he will keep book ending and have Will go after the "happy couple". He hasn't clarified this yet.. 3) And he has mentioned that between season 3 and season 4 (Red Dragon season) there will be a "time gap". Don't know for other seasons though..

It sounds like this show has done very well in other countries. and that even if NBC passed on season two, there were several ready to pick it up.

As of now, I would love to see this play out, but time will tell!
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