Carada criterion fixed 120" , brilliant white Vs Seymour F110GS ,Premier frame , glacier white

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2/26/13 at 5:51pm

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Hi Friends,

I have narrowed down my choices to a Carada criterion fixed 120" , brilliant white or a Seymour F110GS ,Premier frame , glacier white. I am unable to find any comparison between the two. I am aware that the Carada brilliant white is 1.4 gain and the price is almost 40
% lower to the Seymour.

Would be grateful if some one could advise if the Seymour is worth the extra 40% or the difference is not noticeable.

I have a Panasonic AE4000 which I intend to upgrade to Mitsubishi HC9000 by the year end. My projector to screen distance is 11 feet and screen to sitting area distance is 13 feet and the sitting area is 14.5 feet.

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3/4/13 at 7:55am

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Originally Posted by kingajit

Hi Friends,

I have narrowed down my choices to a Carada criterion fixed 120" , brilliant white or a Seymour F110GS ,Premier frame , glacier white. I am unable to find any comparison between the two. I am aware that the Carada brilliant white is 1.4 gain and the price is almost 40
% lower to the Seymour.

Would be grateful if some one could advise if the Seymour is worth the extra 40% or the difference is not noticeable.

I have a Panasonic AE4000 which I intend to upgrade to Mitsubishi HC9000 by the year end. My projector to screen distance is 11 feet and screen to sitting area distance is 13 feet and the sitting area is 14.5 feet.

Thank you for reading my post.

rgds

Ajit

If you seen the forum, the Carada BW is 1.4 gain, but in reality the real gain is 1.1.. you may want to check, order both samples and see with you like best.. I've received my carada sample, teh BW looks like a GHEE color.. not white, slightly beige.. I think you will be fine with the carada bw screen for your size.

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3/11/13 at 6:11pm

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Interesting, I'm looking at the Carada BW and the Seymour glacier white reference frame also. I have the Carada sample and contacted Seymour for the glacier white to compare. The BW does look good. I also noticed Seymour has a radiant white with a different frame(Velcro attachment instead of o-rings).
I sent Chris a note about whether these are the same materials or different. From what I have read and experienced is that both companies make a fantastic product and actually respond to customers. I'll let you know what I find out.

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3/12/13 at 5:45am

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Hi Tjohnson, thanks for your post.
Carada BW and the Seymour f110 are good value for money but between them the price diff is almost 45% !
I am a bit concerned after reading Dr. Zaus post who is saying that the carada BW is a tad yellow! hope you could confirm that if you get your samples.

I have recently seen the curved screens by a japanese brand called OS and I was surpised ...no distortion or anything as alleged by some. Not so impressed by the screen material of OS. I am getting a bit inclined toward the seymour because of the curved screens but that will mean almost twice the cost of the carada.

I will share with you the below from Chris....he is very honest! & If I buy the seymour then it is only because of him!

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Feb 27, 2013 at 7:40 am
Hi Ajit -

I really like Carada screens. While their 1.4 is a benchmarked number and its actual measurement between 1.1 and 1.2 in my testing, it's still a little higher gain than our 1.3 Glacier White. I think Carada makes a great product and have often recommended them to friends and family. I recommend a dark background behind Carada's 1.4 since it's not an opaque material. It's also a bit smoother since it's doesn't have a lightly-embossed surface like ours.

I would say I prefer our framing and hardware though. I prefer our bounce-back grommet/o-ring tensioning system. Our border material is about twice as black, we have curved and less expensive masking options. (However, Carada's motorized masking is a great value if you'd considering that approach).

Cheers,
Chris

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3/12/13 at 7:45pm

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Hi Kingajit,

I heard from Chris and Jon today from Seymour, talk about responsive! I wasn't clear before but now understand the radiant white and glacier white are two different materials, and corresponding frames, one from Screen Excellence and one from Seymour. They are sending both samples for a look. Impressive folks at Seymour.

I will say I don't think the Carada BW looks yellow at all. I have it against a Wilsonart DW screen and it looks as white or more white to me. True white is really hard to tell by itself but easier to compare against "other whites". I'm viewing the BW against the Wilsonart Designer White and the BW seems just a tad less bright than the Wilsonart but the blacks are definitely better with the Carada BW So the gain numbers for the BW and the Wilsonart seem spot on to me. To add to to the mix I got a sample of SI's Solar HD or Solar 4K material. It however does not look white but rather a whitish,bluish gray, it's not as bright as either the Wilsonart or the Carada BW. I'm not completely convinced SI sent me the right sample but I had a really bad experience with their sales team and I can't give them my business. It's a shame as I think they have some good materials but you have to provide a basic level of service.

So I'm waiting for the Seymour samples to compare to the Carada. I am really liking the idea of the magnet masking with the premier frame. I would be using 16;9 and mask to 2.40. I'm using a Sony VW Pro from 13'6", seating at 14-15 feet. Really like the projector but will of course "upgrade" down the road so the screen needs to work for many, many years. This is definitely a journey(but a fun one!!). I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Todd

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3/13/13 at 8:11am

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The Seymour AV and Screen Excellence solid screen materials have a black backing and the Carada does not. That is why Chris suggested a dark background for the Carada screen. The Carada uses snaps. The Seymour AV screen uses O-rings for both their Premier and Economy frames. The premier frame is velvet covered. The Economy frame is black painted aluminum with velvet on the frame where the frame meets the image. The Screen Excellence uses Velcro attachment and has a velvet covered frame. All three companies have excellent customer service. Seymour AV is the US manufacturer for Screen Excellence. We are dealers for all three, if you have any questions, let us know.

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