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post #2401 of 3972
Well I'm happy to join the group of r550a owners. Picked up my 70" today for 1970 before tax. I am coming from a sharp 70le847u and I was immediately pleased with the picture as soon as I plugged it in. I did notice 2 small things: one of the holes on the tv doesn't match up with the mount brackets and also noticed some flashlight/clouding. It looks essentially like clouding in each of the corners. I rarely see so I don't think I will make a case of it and I remember with my old Sony that some clouding went away after some time. I've also backed off the backlighting a bit. Ran my spears and munsil disc and contrast and brightness needed a couple adjustments but man was color and tint right on. That is a blessing coming from the sharp. I also previously had an lg lm7600 which had the worst backlight bleed on earth so so far this set has been the best I've had to date besides my xbr4 at the time and this is entry level vs that being top tier.
post #2402 of 3972
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Originally Posted by hvc700mbuyer View Post

Is 899.99 a great price on the 50r550a?! This model just sold out at walmart.com......

Should I be concerned that the price will go up?

 

No, that's the Amazon price (for a short while now).  Relax.

post #2403 of 3972
I got one of my two dead pixels to return to life!

I encased my index finger in a soft cotton cloth/Tighty Whitey . Tapped on screen right over it. It then magically vanished!

Not so lucky with the other. But, I'm glad the one that corrected happened to be more in center of the screen.
post #2404 of 3972
out of stock, discontinued at walmart.com

For brick n mortar how is best buy for returns?

Is Sony discontinuing the 50r550a??
post #2405 of 3972
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Originally Posted by StormCrow View Post

I got one of my two dead pixels to return to life!

I encased my index finger in a soft cotton cloth/Tighty Whitey . Tapped on screen right over it. It then magically vanished!

Not so lucky with the other. But, I'm glad the one that corrected happened to be more in center of the screen.

 

Do you have blu-ray with a pixel flipper on it?  I don't know why they don't put these things actually into the tvs themselves the way plasmas have their pixel orbiters.

 

You can try running something like this if you don't have one.  Even overnight or so.

 

NOTE: Do NOT stare at this if you have epilepsy or are otherwise prone to seizures!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2eQhhMvi-U

 

 

 

NOTE: Do NOT stare at this if you have epilepsy or are otherwise prone to seizures!

 

 


Edited by tgm1024 - 10/2/13 at 2:29pm
post #2406 of 3972
I have the 70R550A, using Directv HDDVR. I just returned Sony HT-CT260H sound bar because I couldn't get a sound out of it. I tried hooking it up with HDMI into sound bar and then HDMI out to TV using the ARC input, then tried HDMI in to TV and digital optical out to sound bar. Wouldn't work either way. I want to go pick up the Sony HT-CT660 which has additional HDMI inputs. Can someone please tell me the correct way to use the ARC system with HDMI and if the HDMI or optical is the best connection. I also want to add my Sony 3D blue ray player. HELP!
post #2407 of 3972
Anyone stream media from an iPhone to the r550a using dlna with an app?
I tried the app called "skifta". It worked with photos, gave me an error with any music, and completely froze with video (I had to unplug it after turning it off, it wouldn't come back on).

The reason id like to do this is to see if id be able to stream music to my tv to play over a soundbar or speaker system. Some of the ones im looking at don't have Bluetooth or airplay. The polk surroundbar 9000 is a good example.
Any advice on using dlna w an iPhone?
Good sound system (2.1 or soundbar) that I'll be able to play music wirelessly over?
post #2408 of 3972
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Originally Posted by lothian110 View Post

Anyone stream media from an iPhone to the r550a using dlna with an app?
I tried the app called "skifta". It worked with photos, gave me an error with any music, and completely froze with video (I had to unplug it after turning it off, it wouldn't come back on).

The reason id like to do this is to see if id be able to stream music to my tv to play over a soundbar or speaker system. Some of the ones im looking at don't have Bluetooth or airplay. The polk surroundbar 9000 is a good example.
Any advice on using dlna w an iPhone?
Good sound system (2.1 or soundbar) that I'll be able to play music wirelessly over?

I've only done YouTube off my phone to the tv
post #2409 of 3972
Need opinions. Is this considered excessive clouding. My Sharp looked nothing near as bad as this but I remember most of my other Sony's being pretty similar to this maybe not quite to this extent. I obviously used dark backgrounds and different exposures to try to capture where the clouding is. The first pic is what it actually looks like to my naked eye. My biggest concern is exchanging it and getting a worse set.


post #2410 of 3972
How'd you do YouTube?
post #2411 of 3972
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Originally Posted by lothian110 View Post

Anyone stream media from an iPhone to the r550a using dlna with an app?
I tried the app called "skifta". It worked with photos, gave me an error with any music, and completely froze with video (I had to unplug it after turning it off, it wouldn't come back on).

The reason id like to do this is to see if id be able to stream music to my tv to play over a soundbar or speaker system. Some of the ones im looking at don't have Bluetooth or airplay. The polk surroundbar 9000 is a good example.
Any advice on using dlna w an iPhone?
Good sound system (2.1 or soundbar) that I'll be able to play music wirelessly over?

Check out reviews for Sony HT-CT260 and HT-CT660, both have Bluetooth connectivity and say that it works great for streaming music.
post #2412 of 3972
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

Need opinions. Is this considered excessive clouding.

I have the 60" and don't have any clouding or issues at all, reading this thread I feel fortunate.

To me that second pic is excessive clouding.

Your mileage may vary and all that.

What is the difference between the two pics though? Doesn't look bad at all in the first one.
post #2413 of 3972
Thread Starter 

Clouding is tough to be accurate in with a photo.  Could be worse or better IRL.

 

Before you get further wrapped up in it though, have you tried putting a flashlight behind your TV as an experiment?  If bright enough it will dramatically improve the blacks.

 

The problem with this technology of course (barring any dimming) is that the job of an LCD is to block the light behind it that's always on.  This has been problematic from day one.

post #2414 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Clouding is tough to be accurate in with a photo.  Could be worse or better IRL.

 

Before you get further wrapped up in it though, have you tried putting a flashlight behind your TV as an experiment?  If bright enough it will dramatically improve the blacks.

 

The problem with this technology of course (barring any dimming) is that the job of an LCD is to block the light behind it that's always on.  This has been problematic from day one.


Yeah I've looked back and looked at other people's photos and I'm wondering too if its maybe something I can massage out but I've also read that there are people I think yourself included that said they got a second set with no problems at all right?
post #2415 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post
 

Clouding is tough to be accurate in with a photo.  Could be worse or better IRL.

 

Before you get further wrapped up in it though, have you tried putting a flashlight behind your TV as an experiment?  If bright enough it will dramatically improve the blacks.

 

The problem with this technology of course (barring any dimming) is that the job of an LCD is to block the light behind it that's always on.  This has been problematic from day one.


Yeah I've looked back and looked at other people's photos and I'm wondering too if its maybe something I can massage out but I've also read that there are people I think yourself included that said they got a second set with no problems at all right?

 

Not entirely for the flashlighting/clouding thing.  I got one blob free, and nearly DSE free.  So I'm good.  But your ambient light (especially a light behind the set --- called "bias lighting") will make things far blacker without crushing them together.

post #2416 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Not entirely for the flashlighting/clouding thing.  I got one blob free, and nearly DSE free.  So I'm good.  But your ambient light (especially a light behind the set --- called "bias lighting") will make things far blacker without crushing them together.

So in your personal opinion would you just stick with this or would you return it? I haven't noticed and blobs or dse. I've actually held off on contacting the store until hearing back from you. Like I said I've seen worse out of Sonys and I've seen better too. I also once thought my sharp had severe clouding and over time it seemed to have cleared up. I was just wondering if this was your set would you do an exchange or not
post #2417 of 3972

Anyone here from Europe? Just wondering where i could get the 70" model. Ordering from US would cause taxes and everything and i would like to avoid that.

post #2418 of 3972
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

So in your personal opinion would you just stick with this or would you return it? I haven't noticed and blobs or dse. I've actually held off on contacting the store until hearing back from you. Like I said I've seen worse out of Sonys and I've seen better too. I also once thought my sharp had severe clouding and over time it seemed to have cleared up. I was just wondering if this was your set would you do an exchange or not

In my opinion (as I have the same issue), try massaging it out while the tv is on, add some light to the room, lower the BACKLIGHTING setting and then see. I didn't return mine because a google search showed just how common this is with LED LCD. So I tried for "acceptable" rather than "perfection".
post #2419 of 3972
Thanks for the flipper. Had no effect on the dead pixel. Maybe effective on stuck pixels? At least, this one being dead is always black, so not as noticeable.
post #2420 of 3972
Anyone out there that has the time and has NetFlix. Try the TV show Emergency. You will see in photos on IMDB their uniform shirts are blue. Also, on my Samsung 46 their blue.

On my 70 R550A, these are not blue. More a light lavender. I just want to know if my set is worse than others, or if all have this crazy issue, where purple seems to be way more popular than it really is... I now see it in home decor, lipstick and even firemen and paramedic uniforms wink.gif
post #2421 of 3972
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Originally Posted by StormCrow View Post

Thanks for the flipper. Had no effect on the dead pixel. Maybe effective on stuck pixels? At least, this one being dead is always black, so not as noticeable.

 

Beats me if that flipper was any good though.  :-/   I think the term "dead pixels" are often used interchangeably with "stuck pixels", though I see how you're using it.

 

What color makes it go black.  All of them & white?  If so that would mean that all 3 subpixels (RGB) are stuck off.  (Actually, if you're a liquid crystal diode pedantic friendless physicist I think you'd make the claim that they're stuck "on"....just saying to prevent the inevitable "Actually....blablabla" reply).  :)

 

I forget....can you return it?

post #2422 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Not entirely for the flashlighting/clouding thing.  I got one blob free, and nearly DSE free.  So I'm good.  But your ambient light (especially a light behind the set --- called "bias lighting") will make things far blacker without crushing them together.

So in your personal opinion would you just stick with this or would you return it? I haven't noticed and blobs or dse. I've actually held off on contacting the store until hearing back from you. Like I said I've seen worse out of Sonys and I've seen better too. I also once thought my sharp had severe clouding and over time it seemed to have cleared up. I was just wondering if this was your set would you do an exchange or not

 

Need a couple things first:

 

You said that the first picture is how it looks to the naked eye.  Note that the white letters look like they're hyperbright enough to "overexpose" that region of the camera (not a real digital term----I forget what to call it with CMOS/CCD arrays----over-saturate maybe).  So perhaps it's still a little too sensitive.

 

What settings are you using currently?  Look at the centralized spreadsheet and tell me which one looks "closest".  Also, are you on Vivid and have the backlight set all the way up?

post #2423 of 3972
Hi,
Did anyone that has the xr550a. have to decide between this and the 802a? The 47w802a is around 1100 on amazon so its only $200 more than the 50r550a.

For my room the 50" is the limit and 47" would be fine , replacing a 4:3 tube 36" wega. Lots of games are played so the 802a seems a bit better.

Does anyone have any comparisons they can help me with, or how you made your choice between the two?

I believe both screens are semi-matte.... so the bright room with windows should be the same for each.

Thanks!

D
post #2424 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Need a couple things first:

You said that the first picture is how it looks to the naked eye.  Note that the white letters look like they're hyperbright enough to "overexpose" that region of the camera (not a real digital term----I forget what to call it with CMOS/CCD arrays----over-saturate maybe).  So perhaps it's still a little too sensitive.

What settings are you using currently?  Look at the centralized spreadsheet and tell me which one looks "closest".  Also, are you on Vivid and have the backlight set all the way up?

Its more out of focus probably than over saturated. I never run a TV in Vivid. Its either in standard, cinema, or custom. more than likely in the pic it was cinema. First thing I did was back off the backlighting to 5. All options are off and picture was 96, brightness was 52, color was 51 and everything else was min or 0.
post #2425 of 3972
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post
 
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Need a couple things first:

You said that the first picture is how it looks to the naked eye.  Note that the white letters look like they're hyperbright enough to "overexpose" that region of the camera (not a real digital term----I forget what to call it with CMOS/CCD arrays----over-saturate maybe).  So perhaps it's still a little too sensitive.

What settings are you using currently?  Look at the centralized spreadsheet and tell me which one looks "closest".  Also, are you on Vivid and have the backlight set all the way up?

Its more out of focus probably than over saturated. I never run a TV in Vivid. Its either in standard, cinema, or custom. more than likely in the pic it was cinema. First thing I did was back off the backlighting to 5. All options are off and picture was 96, brightness was 52, color was 51 and everything else was min or 0.

 

If it's looking how I think it is, then I'd probably return it.  From time to time my startup black screen (before the logo) comes up looking miserable and I really wonder WTF I was thinking, but then I never ever notice it anywhere else.

 

The telling thing is this though (and this is the bane of the existance of LG sets)----does it show up in the letterboxes during a wider aspect-ratio movie?  Or in the pillarboxes when a 4:3 show is on?  Or during a dark scene?

post #2426 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

If it's looking how I think it is, then I'd probably return it.  From time to time my startup black screen (before the logo) comes up looking miserable and I really wonder WTF I was thinking, but then I never ever notice it anywhere else.

The telling thing is this though (and this is the bane of the existance of LG sets)----does it show up in the letterboxes during a wider aspect-ratio movie?  Or in the pillarboxes when a 4:3 show is on?  Or during a dark scene?

I'll try to get more pics tonight with content on but its weird I can see it in the letter and pillar boxes sometimes and sometimes I cannot. Its almost like whenever anything bright is on screen I cannot see it but when something darker is then I can in the letterbox. Maybe because of the contrast between blacks. I might just return it. I tried doing a little massage/wiping on it but it didnt improve any.
post #2427 of 3972
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post
 
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

If it's looking how I think it is, then I'd probably return it.  From time to time my startup black screen (before the logo) comes up looking miserable and I really wonder WTF I was thinking, but then I never ever notice it anywhere else.

The telling thing is this though (and this is the bane of the existance of LG sets)----does it show up in the letterboxes during a wider aspect-ratio movie?  Or in the pillarboxes when a 4:3 show is on?  Or during a dark scene?

I'll try to get more pics tonight with content on but its weird I can see it in the letter and pillar boxes sometimes and sometimes I cannot. Its almost like whenever anything bright is on screen I cannot see it but when something darker is then I can in the letterbox.

 

No, that's actually totally normal for a brighter screen to make it harder to see the subtle problems with black.  Your eyes' irises will contract.  I cannot see (knock on wood) any thing like that on any letter/pillar boxes if there's anything at all on the screen.

 

The more I hear you talk, the more I'm leaning toward returning it.  I wish I could see it in person though because I don't want to send you down the wrong offramp.

post #2428 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

No, that's actually totally normal for a brighter screen to make it harder to see the subtle problems with black.  Your eyes' irises will contract.  I cannot see (knock on wood) any thing like that on any letter/pillar boxes if there's anything at all on the screen.

The more I hear you talk, the more I'm leaning toward returning it.  I wish I could see it in person though because I don't want to send you down the wrong offramp.

technically I was leaning towards exchanging it anyway. I guess I was more or less looking for someone to say whether or not I was over reacting. I used to buy all my electronics from this mom and pop shop that has a few different locations in the tricounty area but since they are so "mom and pop" their return policy is pretty much on a case to case basis and I think I wore out my welcome with them when I it took them 6 months and 3 service calls to finally admit that my old NX810 had a problem. This time I purposely went with a corporate store so that I had a no hassle return. I would say between this and the stand having that 4th screw not screw into the tv set I am going to do the exchange, like I said that was why I went to a different store anyway. Maybe it fell or got bumped in shipping and thats causing the clouding and the stand not to line up too?
post #2429 of 3972
If you can find a 70 without flash lighting consider yourself real lucky. Just some better than others. I personally believe the bigger the TV the higher the chance you will have flash lighting and possibly other problems. I seen a 60 in a local store that had none, and the viewing angle was way better. It looked good from almost a sideways angle. Mine looks badly washed out from the same angle. Don't know if it has to do with just the right lighting. My 70 has some flash lighting, but gets better the longer the TV is on. Since I have owned it for 3 months now. It appears I get less flash lighting than when it was new.
post #2430 of 3972
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Originally Posted by Ripper64 View Post

If you can find a 70 without flash lighting consider yourself real lucky. Just some better than others. I personally believe the bigger the TV the higher the chance you will have flash lighting and possibly other problems. I seen a 60 in a local store that had none, and the viewing angle was way better. It looked good from almost a sideways angle. Mine looks badly washed out from the same angle. Don't know if it has to do with just the right lighting. My 70 has some flash lighting, but gets better the longer the TV is on. Since I have owned it for 3 months now. It appears I get less flash lighting than when it was new.

Well that is certainly good news and I feel like my Sharp did the same thing too. Maybe I should give it at least a week and see if it improves any. I know thats obviously not going to be the same as 3 months but maybe I will notice a slight improvement. I mean there is no real harm in waiting until next week anyway. It could essentially save me some money sine this time I was going to have them deliver it rather than me pick it up which will save me about 80 bucks.

EDIT: Tried to sit through some more movies tonight and unless they were full screen I just couldnt "un-see" it. I think I am going to move forward with the exchange. The whole point of me switching from the Sharp to the Sony was because certain 3d movies were just unviewable with active glasses. Now not to say that the movies are unviewable because of the clouding but it is certainly distracting enough that it is taking away from my experience. Hopefully the exchange goes smooth and has less problems.
Edited by brahby - 10/3/13 at 9:03pm
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