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post #3001 of 3974

Hum, I didn't really notice till I saw the form about it....

 

Does it seem noticeable? it's not as distinct at some of the other pictures I've seen online.... >.<

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Originally Posted by jenniyah View Post

Hum, I didn't really notice till I saw the form about it....

Does it seem noticeable? it's not as distinct at some of the other pictures I've seen online.... >.<</div>

You have had the TV for almost 30 days and obviously been enjoying it to date. Then you came here to this thread and now your worried. That tells me you
should turn on your TV and watch it and stay off the internet smile.gif. You have to realize that these forums are 95% negatives and very few posts from folks that
are happy!
If you are watching "active" content without problems or distractions, then just enjoy...
Gerry
post #3003 of 3974
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Originally Posted by jenniyah View Post

I got a 60" R550 3 weeks ago, almost closing in on 30 day for exchange. Everything else is excellent, no clouding on the black screens... so I was pretty happy till I read the forms and saw comments on BLOBS...

Do you see or notice anything during regular content? If not, unless you plan on spending a lot of time staring at blank screens, don't worry about it. You should always evaluate the performance of your set in normal viewing circumstances. If you are happy with how it looks in normal viewing, just enjoy your set!
post #3004 of 3974
Someone says: You are aware that your set has some really bad artifacts in the image, right?
And you say: Well I am now! tongue.gif

If you're looking for problems you will most definitely find them. And unfortunately once you do, you won't be able to forget about them. Like Neo taking the Red pill - there is no going back once you know the truth.

There should be a disclaimer on these forum sites. Something like, "Beware, you may not like what you are about to discover". eek.gif

I recall the first time I saw HD. It was in a bar on what I recall was a 70 inch, but was probably more like a 42. And suddenly I had to go home and throw out my old TV. Damn you latest and greatest.....biggrin.gif
post #3005 of 3974
Still haven't got the Netflix new updated application. We are getting the update right? My PS3 got it day one....
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Originally Posted by csunflip View Post

Still haven't got the Netflix new updated application. We are getting the update right? My PS3 got it day one....

Did you update the software? Don't know if that will help
post #3007 of 3974
I'm already on the latest TV software. Not sure how you update tv apps.....

This might be pushed by Netflix. I just wanted to see who got the update....if any
post #3008 of 3974
yeah, I just passed my 45-day return on my 60". I have no choice but to keep it now. I like it. I don't love it, but it's good for the $. I only notice my 1 cloud when the screen goes completely black. Other than that it is fine. i miss the days when tvs were uniform. Tube tvs. They had none of these uniformity issues.

but, that reminds me, I get like 6 months of netflix for free don't I? That's a saving of like $120. How do I redeem that? Hmmmmm


http://discover.store.sony.com/netflix/
post #3009 of 3974
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Originally Posted by johnBlanker View Post

...i miss the days when tvs were uniform. Tube tvs. They had none of these uniformity issues...

I think that sometimes but then recall just how bad those tvs looked compared to todays. What I mean is... go HD and / or big and everything is magnified, good & bad. Things that look awesome on the 144 incher don't look as impressive on the 70 incher and artifacts that show on the 144 don't show on the 70. Bad with the good.

And as far as tube tvs, go try and watch one after viewing the digitals. wink.gif
post #3010 of 3974
I never want to return to the tube tvs. One of my jobs back in the 50s was to keep our Muntz tv working. That was quite a never-ending job. The set would go black or the horizontal hold quit working, I'd jump on my bike and go to the 7-11 or drug store with a bag of suspect tubes. (Many places in those days had tube testers and tubes for sale.) I'd check the tubes and cull the bad one(s), go home and tell mom and get enough money, if available, for the replacements. It was usually a 6AU6 and cost a few dollars. I don't think our tv ever went more than a month without needing a tube. It's unbelievable how dependable tvs are today.
post #3011 of 3974
I remember that too. We'd pick up tubes at the checkout counter of the grocery store. They had a big machine with all the slots in it to test your tubes. Frick we're old. lol
post #3012 of 3974
Oh, yeah. Totally. My fiance's mother still has a tube tv in her living room. The old curved screen (20' I think). I can't believe how rough the picture looked, but hey we didn't know any better. I remember that ringing sound that the tube tvs made. I guess some people are more sensitive to it than others, but I could always tell if a tv was on in another room because I could hear that piercing ring.

But I also remember when LOTR first came out on dvd. I watched it on my 32' Toshiba. It was connected with S-video, which was a pretyy big improvement over composite. Man, I still remember how good that looked. At the time....
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Thread Starter 

What's a tube?  LOL...

 

 

Looks like a water cooler.  Hope you never grabbed the thing from the side.  They always came out of the ancient sets all lumpy looking.  I only saw them a couple times when the TV repairman came visiting.

 

Actually, I was (am) a huge fan of S-Video ever since I first saw it on an absurdly expensive high-end VCR in 1986.  If you had adequate cables, it produced a picture that looked as good as Component did (for SD) IMO.  When we got our first DVD player, the picture from that thing on our 32" Sanyo was phenomenal.

 

LOL.....

post #3014 of 3974
I just ordered the 70". I opted to have it delivered next week Saturday (my living room isn't quite ready yet for the TV). Hopefully, I'll get a half-decent unit.
post #3015 of 3974
Is anyone aware of a good Black Friday deal on the KDL-70R550A? I remember reading about the Fry's deal for $1500 when it first came out and am hoping to find that deal again.
post #3016 of 3974
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Originally Posted by cnsf View Post

Is anyone aware of a good Black Friday deal on the KDL-70R550A? I remember reading about the Fry's deal for $1500 when it first came out and am hoping to find that deal again.

I'm also in the market for a 70" one. I have not seen the Fry's deal come back and I've been checking their flyers. For the last couple of months it's been hovering at 2200 except that Fry's sale. If anyone knows a better price from an authorized retailer please share to have Amazon price match. biggrin.gif

So far no luck. cool.gif
post #3017 of 3974
where did you buy it from??

Sony is replacing mine and i hope i dont get another one with BLOB issues!!!
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Originally Posted by Jason Nesmith View Post

Here's my update. After shipping back two 50r550a TVs for excessive Dirty Screen Effect, I was offered a 55w802a for no extra charge. I just received it and I love it. There is no excessive DSE at all. For some reason, GTA V I could see the DSE the most on the 550a, must be the color pallet. Playing it now on the 802, I can see some light and dark streaks here and there, you know it's not perfect, but very hard to see, and I'm really looking for it.

There is also no excessive backlight bleed at all, compared to the 550a. Still have to consider room luminance and brightness settings, but when set correctly the blacks are great.

I liked the 550a picture overall, minus the DSE (especially) and flashlighting (just a little), but the 802a is absolutely stunning IMO. I even get to keep one 50" 550a, but I have no room for it, and I'd be embarrassed trying to sell it the DSE is so bad.

I would echo tgm1024's advice, don't tolerate poor quality TVs. Make sure you hound Sony until they make it right for you. A $900 TV isn't cheap, and you shouldn't have to expect excessive flaws.

And thanks to tgm1024 for starting and maintaining this thread, and for everyone's contribution, it's been a tremendous help through this whole inconvenient process.
post #3018 of 3974
hi there, i do have a 1.4 hdmi cable......it seems that i have to manually force the ARC on the receiver to get the surround sound to come out when using netflix.

will using a digital optical cable also take care of the issue? not sure if optical cables support all the same sound as the hdmi 1.4?

or is it better i get the ARC working on the receiver?
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Make sure to use a 1.4 compliant cable too.  By the way, receivers piss me off.  There's no reason that I can see that if you had the correct cable that they couldn't auto-detect the presence of an ARC handshaking going on and at least light up an LED saying "hey! The TV's trying to send me something"  (or simply allow you to auto-switch to it).  The other thing is that receiver implementations of ARC are supposedly getting better, but so far I've heard a lot of anecdotal angst about their flakiness.
post #3019 of 3974
the sony seems like a decent buy as far as a 70 inch model goes.

Ive looked at the Sharp LE650, Vizio Mseries, and Samsung 75. The Samsung, which I have always liked got some issues with screen uniformity, banding etc..

Sony seems decently priced also. Any of you guys have complaints?
post #3020 of 3974
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

the sony seems like a decent buy as far as a 70 inch model goes.

Ive looked at the Sharp LE650, Vizio Mseries, and Samsung 75. The Samsung, which I have always liked got some issues with screen uniformity, banding etc..

Sony seems decently priced also. Any of you guys have complaints?

If I may ask- what model 75 did you look at in the Samsung? Could you go into more specifics if it's the 6300? I saw the 6300 75" at Sam's a week ago and it looked quite good to me. I'm torn between the Sony 70 or Sammy 75 at this point. Currently have a 73" DLP and would rather gain two inches (wife would like that smile.gif ) than lose three inches!
Gerry
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Originally Posted by ggw2000 View Post

If I may ask- what model 75 did you look at in the Samsung? Could you go into more specifics if it's the 6300? I saw the 6300 75" at Sam's a week ago and it looked quite good to me. I'm torn between the Sony 70 or Sammy 75 at this point. Currently have a 73" DLP and would rather gain two inches (wife would like that smile.gif ) than lose three inches!
Gerry

75F6300
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

the sony seems like a decent buy as far as a 70 inch model goes.

Ive looked at the Sharp LE650, Vizio Mseries, and Samsung 75. The Samsung, which I have always liked got some issues with screen uniformity, banding etc..

Sony seems decently priced also. Any of you guys have complaints?

That's a good question! I spent a good while at several different Best Buys comparing the R550 to the Samsung 7100 series, side by side as they had them set up. Yes the Samsung gets a bit brighter, but seemed to be over driving and blowing out the bright areas, such as people's faces and white shirts, and thus losing detail. Also, the Samsung 7100 that they had set up in the front area was playing some sort of proprietary demo material, and I noticed tremendous white banding as it was playing.

I also noticed in the other Best Buy demo loop that the R550 maintained detail in some of the boxed images, compared to other TVs. There is one part of the loop that has a foreground of pebbles, with a scenic background. With the Sony R550, I could see every pebble distinctly, while with some of the other sets a lot of the detail of those pebbles was sort of lost or smoothed together.

Regarding color accuracy and skin tones, I thought the R550 was perhaps a bit better than the Samsungs, but doesn't approach the beautiful Sony W900A they had up above. I would love to have the W900A, but it is only available in the 55" size, and runs $1999. My wife wants a 70" set if we can swing it, but the R550 is around $2200. The 60" comes in at around $1445, and may be a good compromise.

The Vizio M Series actually look decent, but there are so many reports of problems with them that I am staying away for now. I don't know what it is about the Sharps, but I don't seem to like them as much as the Sony.
Edited by mtrot - 11/24/13 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

That's a good question! I spent a good while at several different Best Buys comparing the R550 to the Samsung 7100 series, side by side as they had them set up. Yes the Samsung gets a bit brighter, but seemed to be over driving and blowing out the bright areas, such as people's faces and white shirts, and thus losing detail. Also, the Samsung 7100 that they had set up in the front area was playing some sort of proprietary demo material, and I noticed tremendous white banding as it was playing.

I also noticed in the other Best Buy demo loop that the r550 maintained detail in some of the boxed images, compared to other TVs. There is one part of the loop that has a foreground of pebbles, with a scenic background. With the Sony R550, I could see every pebble distinctly, while with some of the other sets a lot of the detail of those pebbles was sort of lost or smoothed together.

Regarding color accuracy and skin tones, I thought the R550 was perhaps a bit better than the Samsungs, but doesn't approach the beautiful Sony W900A they had up above. I would love to have the W900A, but it is only available in the 55" size, and runs $1999. My wife wants a 70" set if we can swing it, but the R550 is around $2200. The 60" comes in at around $1445, and may be a good compromise.

The Visio M Series actually look decent, but there are so many reports of problems with them that I am staying away for now. I don't know what it is about the Sharps, but I don't seem to like them as much as the Sony.

agreed on the Vizio.

Just got off the phone with Chris from Cleveland Plasma and he recommended the Sharp 80 LE650 for my room. I currently have the 73 Mitsubishi and my room is 30x15. Sit at about 12-13 feet away.
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

That's a good question! I spent a good while at several different Best Buys comparing the R550 to the Samsung 7100 series, side by side as they had them set up. Yes the Samsung gets a bit brighter, but seemed to be over driving and blowing out the bright areas, such as people's faces and white shirts, and thus losing detail. Also, the Samsung 7100 that they had set up in the front area was playing some sort of proprietary demo material, and I noticed tremendous white banding as it was playing.

I also noticed in the other Best Buy demo loop that the R550 maintained detail in some of the boxed images, compared to other TVs. There is one part of the loop that has a foreground of pebbles, with a scenic background. With the Sony R550, I could see every pebble distinctly, while with some of the other sets a lot of the detail of those pebbles was sort of lost or smoothed together.

Regarding color accuracy and skin tones, I thought the R550 was perhaps a bit better than the Samsungs, but doesn't approach the beautiful Sony W900A they had up above. I would love to have the W900A, but it is only available in the 55" size, and runs $1999. My wife wants a 70" set if we can swing it, but the R550 is around $2200. The 60" comes in at around $1445, and may be a good compromise.

The Visio M Series actually look decent, but there are so many reports of problems with them that I am staying away for now. I don't know what it is about the Sharps, but I don't seem to like them as much as the Sony.

Samsung's have good picture quality but their reliability can be a mixed bag, LG has good reliability but picture quality is a mixed bad, Vizio is a good choice as long as you can deal with the odd software/hardware bugs that can pop up, Sony is of course a great choice all around but don't expect lots of bells n whistles on the R520A/R550A models, and Sharp makes some of the best LCD panels in the biz but not really the best TV's. You're much better off buying a TV that uses a Sharp panel but is not a Sharp TV. Almost all 60" TV's have Sharp panels aside from LG's 60", as far as it can be determined all 70"/80" TV's use Sharp panels, and most 65" have panels from AUO. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Brooks Carter View Post

Samsung's have good picture quality but their reliability can be a mixed bag, LG has good reliability but picture quality is a mixed bad, Vizio is a good choice as long as you can deal with the odd software/hardware bugs that can pop up, Sony is of course a great choice all around but don't expect lots of bells n whistles on the R520A/R550A models, and Sharp makes some of the best LCD panels in the biz but not really the best TV's. You're much better off buying a TV that uses a Sharp panel but is not a Sharp TV. Almost all 60" TV's have Sharp panels aside from LG's 60", as far as it can be determined all 70"/80" TV's use Sharp panels, and most 65" have panels from AUO. smile.gif

Thanks! I thought I read somewhere that the 70" Sony KDL550R had a Sharp panel, and it does look better to me than the Sharp TVs. Is the 65" AUO panel supposed to be any good? I'm looking at a Toshiba 65L7300, which has an incredible picture, and I wonder if it has a AUO panel.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

the sony seems like a decent buy as far as a 70 inch model goes.

Ive looked at the Sharp LE650, Vizio Mseries, and Samsung 75. The Samsung, which I have always liked got some issues with screen uniformity, banding etc..

Sony seems decently priced also. Any of you guys have complaints?

That's a good question! I spent a good while at several different Best Buys comparing the R550 to the Samsung 7100 series, side by side as they had them set up. Yes the Samsung gets a bit brighter, but seemed to be over driving and blowing out the bright areas, such as people's faces and white shirts, and thus losing detail. Also, the Samsung 7100 that they had set up in the front area was playing some sort of proprietary demo material, and I noticed tremendous white banding as it was playing.

I also noticed in the other Best Buy demo loop that the R550 maintained detail in some of the boxed images, compared to other TVs. There is one part of the loop that has a foreground of pebbles, with a scenic background. With the Sony R550, I could see every pebble distinctly, while with some of the other sets a lot of the detail of those pebbles was sort of lost or smoothed together.

Regarding color accuracy and skin tones, I thought the R550 was perhaps a bit better than the Samsungs, but doesn't approach the beautiful Sony W900A they had up above. I would love to have the W900A, but it is only available in the 55" size, and runs $1999. My wife wants a 70" set if we can swing it, but the R550 is around $2200. The 60" comes in at around $1445, and may be a good compromise.

The Visio M Series actually look decent, but there are so many reports of problems with them that I am staying away for now. I don't know what it is about the Sharps, but I don't seem to like them as much as the Sony.

You can't compare tv brightness, etc., without knowing how they were configured.
post #3027 of 3974
I think im leaning more towards the 550a now mainly because of size, price point, and input lag is better than Panasonic and Sharp.
post #3028 of 3974
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

You can't compare tv brightness, etc., without knowing how they were configured.

Yes, I know that. But most big box retail locations have the sets on "Vivid", so one thing you can get an idea of is how bright they will get. I do agree with you, with respect to sharpness, color accuracy, and other parameters.
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

Thanks! I thought I read somewhere that the 70" Sony KDL550R had a Sharp panel, and it does look better to me than the Sharp TVs. Is the 65" AUO panel supposed to be any good? I'm looking at a Toshiba 65L7300, which has an incredible picture, and I wonder if it has a AUO panel.

The great thing about having a TV such as the 60"/70" R520A/R550A is you get Sharps superior LCD panel plus you get Sony's superior video processing, color reproduction, passive 3D(R550A), and the nice semi-gloss screen which gives images a little more pop rather than the dull-ish matte/semi-matte finish on most TV's. AUO panels are good they slot somewhere in between Samsung and Sharp panels. I've seen the Toshiba L7300U/L7350U at Sears and it does look very nice and a great price, but it has very poor user reviews mainly due to the ridiculously slow processing power of the TV that not only affects its internet based features but even affects the basic menu system of the TV. Also if your a gamer it's best to stick with Sony as no other company can beat them on their low low input lag numbers. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Brooks Carter View Post

The great thing about having a TV such as the 60"/70" R520A/R550A is you get Sharps superior LCD panel plus you get Sony's superior video processing, color reproduction, passive 3D(R550A), and the nice semi-gloss screen which gives images a little more pop rather than the dull-ish matte/semi-matte finish on most TV's. AUO panels are good they slot somewhere in between Samsung and Sharp panels. I've seen the Toshiba L7300U/L7350U at Sears and it does look very nice and a great price, but it has very poor user reviews mainly due to the ridiculously slow processing power of the TV that not only affects its internet based features but even affects the basic menu system of the TV. Also if your a gamer it's best to stick with Sony as no other company can beat them on their low low input lag numbers. smile.gif

I do no gaming at all, so that might put the Toshiba back in the game for me. And as to the menu system, once I get a TV set up the way I like it, I don't mess with the settings much. So, maybe I'm looking at Sony 60 or 70" R550A or Toshiba 65" L7300. The thing is, the 550A 60" costs almost as much as the 65" Toshiba L7300 confused.gif Decisions...decisions.
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