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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

I do no gaming at all, so that might put the Toshiba back in the game for me. And as to the menu system, once I get a TV set up the way I like it, I don't mess with the settings much. So, maybe I'm looking at Sony 60 or 70" R550A or Toshiba 65" L7300. The thing is, the 550A 60" costs almost as much as the 65" Toshiba L7300 confused.gif Decisions...decisions.

If you're interested in 65" and don't want 3D I'd look at the Samsung 65F6300/65F6350 it just dropped to $1500 on Amazon, also since you don't game and as long as you could somewhat control your room lighting I'd whole heartedly suggest a Panasonic plasma, if you're really set on a Sony but don't really care about 3D you could go with the 60" R520A it's $1300 but I would imagine both the R550A/R520A will drop in price over the next week or so ....but get what feels right for your needs and works within your budget. smile.gif
Edited by Brooks Carter - 11/24/13 at 4:21pm
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If you're interested in 65" and don't want 3D I'd look at the Samsung 65F6300/65F6350, also since you don't game and as long as you could somewhat control your room lighting I'd whole heartedly suggest a Panasonic plasma....but get what feels right for your needs and works within your budget. smile.gif

Thanks, well I have checked out all the brands including Samsung. I will check again, but I don't think I was overly impressed with the 6300 series. As to plasma, I already bought a Panasonic 60S60, but returned it due to the very dim picture and aggressive ABL. Now, the ST60 is supposed to be brighter, but I have confirmed it still has very aggressive ABL. The Samsung 8500 series plasma would be nice, but with that I'm looking at ~$3000.
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Thanks, well I have checked out all the brands including Samsung. I will check again, but I don't think I was overly impressed with the 6300 series. As to plasma, I already bought a Panasonic 60S60, but returned it due to the very dim picture and aggressive ABL. Now, the ST60 is supposed to be brighter, but I have confirmed it still has very aggressive ABL. The Samsung 8500 series plasma would be nice, but with that I'm looking at ~$3000.

I love and prefer plasma but there just isn't much in the way of selection anymore. Various sizes of the 6300 series are gonna have a little different picture quality due to the different LCD panels in use. The 55" is from Samsung, 60" Sharp, and 65" AUO so I'd look at as many sizes in a given series as you possibly can. You could also jump up to the 7100 series the 60" is $1600 or you could try the 60" LG LA7400 which is backlit w/ local dimming as opposed to edge-lit which should give it better uniformity however it's like $1800 and I don't personally think its worth the extra $ over the Sony R550A/Samsung F7100.
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

I do no gaming at all, so that might put the Toshiba back in the game for me. And as to the menu system, once I get a TV set up the way I like it, I don't mess with the settings much. So, maybe I'm looking at Sony 60 or 70" R550A or Toshiba 65" L7300. The thing is, the 550A 60" costs almost as much as the 65" Toshiba L7300 confused.gif Decisions...decisions.

If you are wanting a 60 or 65 inch, No brainer go with the Panasonic st60 or s60
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

If you are wanting a 60 or 65 inch, No brainer go with the Panasonic st60 or s60

Look up at my post above.
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Originally Posted by sukh77 View Post

2. Plays all formats.  MKV, MP4, AVI, M2TS.

Can you confirm that this TV actually does play MKV over DLNA without the need for transcoding? The official specs claim that it only supports the following video formats through DLNA: MPEG1/ MPEG2PS/ MPEG2TS/ AVCHD/ MP4/ WMV.

I'm asking because an earlier poster claimed that MKVs required transcoding (remuxing) through his DLNA server:

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Originally Posted by jrlambs View Post

Incidently I also tried all of these profiles as MKV files through servio, and the file plays them.. but servio has to remux the file to play it since it's an MKV and apparently the TV can't see MKV's through DLNA.

If the TV happens to support MKV through DLNA, does it also support MKVs with DTS audio?

Thanks,
Visor
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Originally Posted by Visor View Post

Can you confirm that this TV actually does play MKV over DLNA without the need for transcoding? The official specs claim that it only supports the following video formats through DLNA: MPEG1/ MPEG2PS/ MPEG2TS/ AVCHD/ MP4/ WMV.

I'm asking because an earlier poster claimed that MKVs required transcoding (remuxing) through his DLNA server:
If the TV happens to support MKV through DLNA, does it also support MKVs with DTS audio?

Thanks,
Visor


I don't believe the TV itself will decode/play the DTS, but it can pass it on to an external receiver over the digital audio out connection and as far as I remember it plays just fine... I'll have to double check to verify though.

As far as MKV though, the tv def does not play them over DLNA. The tv won't even show you that file/title exists when you're browsing the DLNA server from the tv. If you're using something like servio, which can remux them and is set to the right profile then it will make it so the tv can see them and will do the necessary remuxing when they are selected.
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Originally Posted by Visor View Post


Can you confirm that this TV actually does play MKV over DLNA without the need for transcoding? The official specs claim that it only supports the following video formats through DLNA: MPEG1/ MPEG2PS/ MPEG2TS/ AVCHD/ MP4/ WMV.

I'm asking because an earlier poster claimed that MKVs required transcoding (remuxing) through his DLNA server:
If the TV happens to support MKV through DLNA, does it also support MKVs with DTS audio?

Thanks,
Visor

Sorry for the confusion.  It still has to transcode the MKV.  The DTS I'm not sure 100%, I have played some audio, seem like it is also getting transcoded into a playable format.  UMS does it pretty fast, I don't notice any difference.  I had tried serviio with my older Samsung tv, but found UMS to play smoothly, is configurable.  I did have to make my own config for UMS to be able to play all formats on Sony and its working great now.

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There is a 70" tv in the frys Black Friday add for $1499. Can anyone tell from the pic if this is the sony kdl-70r550a that has been discussed on here? I've been waiting for it to be back on sale. Sorry don't know how to post a pic. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by kaochaos1 View Post

There is a 70" tv in the frys Black Friday add for $1499. Can anyone tell from the pic if this is the sony kdl-70r550a that has been discussed on here? I've been waiting for it to be back on sale. Sorry don't know how to post a pic. smile.gif

 

Just the text of the link that got you there would help.

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Just the text of the link that got you there would help.

https://www.facebook.com/fryselectronics/app_550169598402656

If it is a sony then its probably the R550, I don't think they make another 3D 70inch for that cheap.

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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post
 

 

Just the text of the link that got you there would help.

hxxps://www.facebook.com/fryselectronics/app_550169598402656

 

If it is the Sony, then it is probably the R550A.  Think R550A is the only 70 3D tv that cheap.

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I'm hopeful it will be the sony and not the sharp. Previous posters have said they could tell which tv it is by the ad. Being Black Friday, I'm optimistic that's it's the sony.
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The Daily Motion App doesn't work for me, it says service is offline. Does it work for anyone?

 

And did they release the new Netflix App for this TV yet?

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Originally Posted by sukh77 View Post

https://www.facebook.com/fryselectronics/app_550169598402656
If it is a sony then its probably the R550, I don't think they make another 3D 70inch for that cheap.

Link does not work for me on either IE or Chrome. Hoping for it to be a Sony as I already bit the bullet from Amazon.

Can someone post the img if possible. Sometimes they have the model in very small print in the ad.

Edit: found the source imgs

http://images.frys.com/art/ads/black-friday/2013/rydA8xnrpHvG_112813/page_02_THU_AV_112813.html

Unforttunantly it does not show the model. Will try to call Fry's to see if they can spill the beans on which model this is. My guess is they are probably not going to know yet about this ad. We'll see.
Edited by Cucuy - 11/25/13 at 2:21pm
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http://www.blackfriday.fm/adscan/frys?page=2
Here is a link from a different site,
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Originally Posted by kaochaos1 View Post

http://www.blackfriday.fm/adscan/frys?page=2
Here is a link from a different site,

Thanks!

I'm looking at the 70" .

Does anyone know if all TV's competing with the Sony include 4 glasses??

According to Bestbuy website the Sharps do not include them while the Vizio has 8 pairs. I think that just leaves the LG's right? biggrin.gif
Edited by Cucuy - 11/25/13 at 2:38pm
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Looking at the image, it doesn't look like a Sony.  I think Sony is about the only one that comes with 4 pairs in passive 3d.

Sorry the link didn't work.

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Cnet has finally done a review for the Sony R520A/R550A... the 60" R520A is the specific model they reviewed.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-50r550a/4505-6482_7-35561978.html
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Originally Posted by sukh77 View Post

hxxps://www.facebook.com/fryselectronics/app_550169598402656

If it is the Sony, then it is probably the R550A.  Think R550A is the only 70 3D tv that cheap.


Both the 70" and 60" next to it are the Sony R550A ....fry's is just using non-branded stock photos most likely due to UPP pricing restrictions that won't allow them to specifically identify the exact models for sale.
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Cnet has finally done a review for the Sony R520A/R550A... the 60" R520A is the specific model they reviewed.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-50r550a/4505-6482_7-35561978.html

Cnet reviews are the biggest waste of time. What can you possibly get out a 1:40 review? This really pisses me off. They mention nothing about clouding uniformity on this or ANY tv.
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No offense to the poster.
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What do you guys think our chances are at getting Best Buy or Amazon to price match since this is a one day Black Friday sale? Also I'm thinking they are going to sell out really fast so I'm trying to find a plan B in case I don't get it at frys.
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Cnet reviews are the biggest waste of time. What can you possibly get out a 1:40 review? This really pisses me off. They mention nothing about clouding uniformity on this or ANY tv.


I wouldn't base a purchase off of what Cnet has to say, but I do like to know their opinion even though at times I certainly find fault with their reviews. The video is just an overview you have to actually read the 2 page review and on page 2 they state: "Uniformity: There were some minor black uniformity issues with the model we received on the bottom left hand side, but these were only visible on a pure black screen, not during program material, not even "Harry Potter." The otherwise superior Sharp LE650 had worse uniformity issues than this television, with more visible blotchy patches. Off-axis was pretty good on the Sony, with only a slight loss of contrast and decent, if not worse, black levels when viewed from the sides."
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Originally Posted by Brooks Carter View Post

Cnet has finally done a review for the Sony R520A/R550A... the 60" R520A is the specific model they reviewed.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-50r550a/4505-6482_7-35561978.html

Thanks for the heads up on the review. Not exactly a glowing review, but the R550 series does seem to be a very good value.
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

Thanks for the heads up on the review. Not exactly a glowing review, but the R550 series does seem to be a very good value.


No prob. smile.gif Like I said previously though I wouldn't ever buy or not buy a TV based on what Cnet's review states as they do a majority of their "testing" in a dark room, comparing 4+ TV's side by side including calibrated plasmas, and they are extremely obsessive about every little thing and it to me sometimes just comes off as a little too nit-picky and bs for the majority of TV buyers. I mean honestly how can they be truly objective when they've reviewed so many TV's year after year after year yet don't ever compare a current years model verses a 4/5/6 yr old equivalent model especially given that on average most people only replace a TV every 5 years. Not to mention most people don't watch very much TV in a completely dark room, scrutinized over every little detail, have access to pro calibration equipment/software, numerous comparison models and thus why I generally give an extra star to whatever they give which I call the "average Joe rating" lol. Also if you've decided against buying a plasma for whatever reason it's neither fair nor important how the Sony R520A/R550A for example compares to either the Panasonic ST60 or VT60!
Edited by Brooks Carter - 11/25/13 at 7:50pm
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No prob. smile.gif Like I said previously though I wouldn't ever buy or not buy a TV based on what Cnet's review states as they do a majority of their "testing" in a dark room, comparing 4+ TV's side by side including calibrated plasmas, and they are extremely obsessive about every little thing and it to me sometimes just comes off as a little too nit-picky and bs for the majority of TV buyers. I mean honestly how can they be truly objective when they've reviewed so many TV's year after year after year yet don't ever compare a current years model verses a 4/5/6 yr old equivalent model especially given that on average most people only replace a TV every 5 years. Not to mention most people don't watch very much TV in a completely dark room, scrutinized over every little detail, have access to pro calibration equipment/software, numerous comparison models and thus why I generally give an extra star to whatever they give which I call the "average Joe rating" lol. Also if you've decided against buying a plasma for whatever reason it's neither fair nor important how the Sony R520A/R550A for example compares to either the Panasonic ST60 or VT60!

Yeah, these new plasmas are just too dim for me, and this is coming from a guy who has owned two of them. My 2007 Toshiba 50HP66 plasma had a nice, bright picture but it has died on me. I do like the picture on the Samsung 8500 series plasma, but it runs ~$3000. I think I may have to give up some black performance in order to get a bright, punchy picture without ABL constantly dimming the picture whenever there is a lot of white on the screen.
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For me, the biggest red flag I saw in Cnet's review was:

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Originally Posted by Cnet Review 
There was one artifact we noticed on the R520 and it's one it shared with a 2012 Samsung TV. Last year we looked at Samsung's UN40ES6500 and noticed that when there were moving images in front of a gray background the edges of the object would bleed blue. We hadn't seen this issue again until the appearance of the R520, when during Chapter 12 of "Deathly Hallows" the Sony showed the exact same issue: as Potter ran between columns trying to talk to the Grey Lady, the edges also trailed. As with DLP's rainbow effect, once you notice it, you start looking for it, but in our experience with the Sony it happens much more rarely.

I'm definitely the type of guy who will start looking for these things once I notice them (the latest example being the "snow"-type noise I've seen in the Panasonic S60 and ST60 displays in certain dark scenes).

For 70" sets, I'm torn between the Sony KDL-70R550A and the Sharp LC70LE650U. While the Sharp apparently doesn't have an issue with blue bleeds/trails, it has noticibly(?) worse uniformity than the Sony, at least accoriding to Cnet's review. However, another thing I like about the Sharp is that it's way better at diffusing reflections... after a bad experience with a Panny S60 (where even in a dark room the picture was reflecting off a picture frame behind me and then reflecting back onto the screen), I'd like to reduce reflections as much as possible. tongue.gif

EDIT: Another reason I'm leaning towards the Sony is because it's cheaper than the Sharp right now (on sale in Canada for $2299... yeah I know, that's the regular price in US, but we Canucks have to take what we can get. rolleyes.gif)
Edited by Visor - 11/25/13 at 8:48pm
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For me, the biggest red flag I saw in Cnet's review was:
I'm definitely the type of guy who will start looking for these things once I notice them (the latest example being the "snow"-type noise I've seen in the Panasonic S60 and ST60 displays in certain dark scenes).

For 70" sets, I'm torn between the Sony KDL-70R550A and the Sharp LC70LE650U. While the Sharp apparently doesn't have an issue with blue bleeds/trails, it has noticibly(?) worse uniformity than the Sony, at least accoriding to Cnet's review. However, another thing I like about the Sharp is that it's way better at diffusing reflections... after a bad experience with a Panny S60 (where even in a dark room the picture was reflecting off a picture frame behind me and then reflecting back onto the screen), I'd like to reduce reflections as much as possible. tongue.gif

EDIT: Another reason I'm leaning towards the Sony is because it's cheaper than the Sharp right now (on sale in Canada for $2299... yeah I know, that's the regular price in US, but we Canucks have to take what we can get. rolleyes.gif)


It's actually not a "snow"-type noise, it's a process called dithering and is how plasmas make certain shades of colors they essentially blend 2 shades to make a 3rd sorta thing and is generally only noticeable from up close(2 feet or less from screen). smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Brooks Carter View Post

It's actually not a "snow"-type noise, it's a process called dithering and is how plasmas make certain shades of colors they essentially blend 2 shades to make a 3rd sorta thing and is generally only noticeable from up close(2 feet or less from screen). smile.gif

Ah very interesting, except that when I briefly had my 65" S60 I noticed the noise from my normal viewing distance of 10.5 feet away. tongue.gif It was most noticeable during dark space scenes, but the noise would only show up during certain shots. I'm guessing that certain levels of "space black" required more dithering than others, which resulted in more noise(?)
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