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btw, the wdtv will bitstream dd 5.1, DTS, as well as DD True HD. It will play tracks that have DTS-HD as well, but it only plays the core (not the HD extension).

Yes, I have used serviio and like it very much. However, DLNA streamers (like serviio) will not allow DVD menu functionality. This is a must since I have the definitive twighlight, friends, seinfeld, King of Queens, all ripped to basic dvd folder structure. Hard to navigate an episodic dvd without the menus. This is why I use Samba network shares to send my media from my server pc to the streaming unit.
post #3212 of 3972
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Originally Posted by johnBlanker View Post

So, I was watching a Youtube video last night in front of my 60550a and I noticed a little icon on the top-right of the youtube player. It looked like an Airplay icon but it had a wi-fi icon on it as well. I clicked on it and it showed an option to play the video on my tv. This worked pretty good. It was not that responsive but good enough. As you can tell I didn't RTFM. Soon, been busy.

Have you noticed other applications that use this feature?

it's a feature for both iphone and android youtube where you can push to a device like how airplay works.

i think netflix has one but i havent tried it yet. all it does is send the information that is open on your phone to the tv youtube app to open the same video. i normally do that then search for another video to play in between.

once I was watching a tv show, found a youtube video, wait till commerical and push the youtube vid from my phone to the tv. watch the vid then back to the tv show, the continued to look for other youtube vides to push to my tv during commercial.
post #3213 of 3972
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Originally Posted by johnBlanker View Post

Hmmm, I'm really not experienced with using the TV ARC feature (passing sound from the tv to an amp using the optical out). I have always employed the following setup: All Source -> receiver via hdmi. One hdmi out of receiver to tv.

Leaving the tv on game mode fixed all sync problems.

I can't understand why the sound would be choppy though. Are you playing the files off an attached HDD or through network shares? Are you using Serviio?

IMO, I really loved the display of the WDTV but I found it to be really buggy. FF/RW is terrible. It crashes. I went with the KDlinks 720, but this is another thread entirely.

 

Hey John thanks for jumping back on this.

 

The ARC feature actually is designed to eliminate the use of an optical cable back to your amp. Initially my WD TV was direct to my amp via HDMI, and then HDMI via ARC back to my TV. The audio however would stop and process at the amp and transcode the DD 5.1. 

 

My second test was going direct to the tv, but running an optical cable from the WD TV direct to my amp and toggling that option. I know the wiring is correct as I am able to easily get sound on both different methods but only PCM 2.0, or DTS properly. 

 

Of course in each scenario I chose the proper pass though on the WD Box.

I am running everything back to a 1 TB Lacie NAS, everything is over my LAN no wireless nonsense, so it's not a bandwidth issue which usually would be the first culprit in anything playing choppy. Also the test file that I'm using was only 300 MB. I can stream a 20 GB MKV 3D movie no issues off my NAS to my WD TV (i did it last night w/ Avitar)

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How do you get it on Game mode?
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

How do you get it on Game mode?

option -> scene select -> game mode.
post #3217 of 3972
hmmm, I've been using ARC for TV and no problems so far. ARC is a great feature and it's amazing how cheap capable receivers have gotten.
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Either one of those look fine to me - the articulating one would make it easier to change the connections on the back if you ever find yourself needing to do that, and also allow you to use the rear-facing HDMI ports. It's pretty much impossible to do with a mount flush to the wall. This is one design choice Sony made that makes me scratch my head - why not make all the ports either facing the bottom or the side like most other flat panel TVs? However, if/when you upgrade your TV to a bigger/heavier one, all the existing 80+ inch TVs are heavier than 100 pounds, which would be over the design limit of the articulating mount.
post #3219 of 3972
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Originally Posted by Zoglog View Post

Hmmm so it's confirmed they're powered? I guess I could test when I go home with a ps4 controller

FYI I plugged in both my iPhone and eReader as a test, both of which started charging, so it seems to me the ports are powered.
post #3220 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tezster View Post

FYI I plugged in both my iPhone and eReader as a test, both of which started charging, so it seems to me the ports are powered.

Are they powered only when the tv is on or are they powered all the time?
post #3221 of 3972
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Originally Posted by loader963 View Post

Are they powered only when the tv is on or are they powered all the time?
Only when tv is on
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Originally Posted by bowlopho View Post

Only when tv is on

confirmed this as well. Which makes it perfect to use for powering the antec bias lighting!
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Originally Posted by tezster View Post

Either one of those look fine to me - the articulating one would make it easier to change the connections on the back if you ever find yourself needing to do that, and also allow you to use the rear-facing HDMI ports. It's pretty much impossible to do with a mount flush to the wall. This is one design choice Sony made that makes me scratch my head - why not make all the ports either facing the bottom or the side like most other flat panel TVs? However, if/when you upgrade your TV to a bigger/heavier one, all the existing 80+ inch TVs are heavier than 100 pounds, which would be over the design limit of the articulating mount.

Haha, if I end up upgrading to 80, it better be an OLED, which I assume are even lighter.
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I got this TV last Friday in the 70" flavor. Definitely no extreme clouding or blobs like seen in the last few pages. Granted I have watched limited content since Friday but those issues would be hard to miss. Also no purple blurring effect seen yet but I have seen some pronounced lip color which seemed unreal on some dvd content. Maybe some slight flashlight/non uniform backlight but not enough to warrant a return and get something worse biggrin.gif. I tried to get some pictures to illustrate but could not get the settings in my camera right to capture what my eyes are seeing. This is the closest pics I got::




There is some additional pics in my gallery with different camera settings but they either exaggerate/minimize effects I don't see in my TV. cool.gif

Looks like I have a keeper!! biggrin.gif
Edited by Cucuy - 12/4/13 at 12:04am
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Originally Posted by Cucuy View Post

I got this TV last Friday in the 70" flavor. Definitely no extreme clouding or blobs like seen in the last few pages. Granted I have watched limited content since Friday but those issues would be hard to miss. Also no purple blurring effect seen yet but I have seen some pronounced lip color which seemed unreal on some dvd content. Maybe some slight flashlight/non uniform backlight but not enough to warrant a return and get something worse biggrin.gif. I tried to get some pictures to illustrate but could not get the settings in my camera right to capture what my eyes are seeing. This is the closest pics I got::




There is some additional pics in my gallery with different camera settings but they either exaggerate/minimize effects I don't see in my TV. cool.gif

Looks like I have a keeper!! biggrin.gif

congrats, yeah looks like yours aint too bad. Just some minor flashlighting in the top left & bottom left corners.
post #3226 of 3972
I picked up the 50R550A last night. Returned this morning. frown.gif
The back-light glow was severe in the two upper corners. It was obvious in regular viewing when anything moderately dark should be in those corners.


Horizontally-off-axis contrast was unacceptable too, and that's compared to a 5-year old Samsung. Color and blacks were nearly gone viewing from the left, yet were fair when viewed from the right.

I guess I'll watch what is announced next month at CES.
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Originally Posted by brutusfl View Post

I picked up the 50R550A last night. Returned this morning. frown.gif
The back-light glow was severe in the two upper corners. It was obvious in regular viewing when anything moderately dark should be in those corners.


Horizontally-off-axis contrast was unacceptable too, and that's compared to a 5-year old Samsung. Color and blacks were nearly gone viewing from the left, yet were fair when viewed from the right.

I guess I'll watch what is announced next month at CES.

 

That bad *with* content on the screen?  Huh.  Out of curiosity, was that on Vivid with the backlight at max?

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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

That bad *with* content on the screen?  Huh.  Out of curiosity, was that on Vivid with the backlight at max?
I don't remember exactly what level I had backlight at in that particular picture (about half?), but this was after I had set it to custom and tweaked everything to reasonable settings. I'm kind of bummed. I spent a lot of time researching to narrow in on this model.
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Originally Posted by Zoglog View Post

congrats, yeah looks like yours aint too bad. Just some minor flashlighting in the top left & bottom left corners.

Yeah, it sucks some of you guys are having problems.

BTW,

anyone have a PS4 hooked up to this TV. I am having some trouble with the Bravia Sync features. I updated the software yesterday hoping that the issues would be fixed but no....
You would expect two Sony Products would talk nice to each other. Perhaps I am missing something but I have gone thru the settings multiple times and don't see what could be wrong.
Here is what I experience:

1.PS4 Controller Press Off --> PS4 goes Off/TV stays On
2.PS4 Controller Press On --> PS4 goes On /TV goes On

3.TV Remote Press Off --> PS4 goes Off/ TV goes Off
4.TV Remote Press On --> PS4 stays Off/TV goes On

confused.gif

This is a really nice feature but somehow I can't get it to work.
Edited by Cucuy - 12/4/13 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by Cucuy View Post


Here is what I experience:

PS4 Controller Press Off --> PS4 goes Off/TV stays On
PS4 Controller Press On --> PS4 goes On /TV goes On

TV Remote Press Off --> PS4 goes Off/ TV goes Off
TV Remote Press On --> PS4 stays Off/TV goes On

.

just curious. What is wrong with the experience you are getting? From the scenarios you presented it sounds like it's working perfectly. Turning off the ps4 should not turn off the tv because if you're on a different input you dont want the tv shutting off when you're turning off your ps4. Also if you are turning on your tv you aren't always going straight toy our ps4, so keeping it off until required.

if the tv is off and you turn on your ps4, the tv will turn on with it so you can use it with the ps4.
when you turn off your tv, your ps4 shuts off too because you aren't using it anymore.
post #3231 of 3972
I am new to this feature so was not sure what to expect. But I kind of expected this to behave like my Harmony Remote for my other setup.

I expected #1 to turn everything off and #4 to turn everything On but I now see some use cases where you would not want that. Thanks!
Edited by Cucuy - 12/4/13 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by Cucuy View Post

I am new to this feature so was not sure what to expect. But I kind of expected this to behave like my Harmony Remote for my other setup.

I expected #1 to turn everything off and #4 to turn everything On but I now see some use cases where you would not want that. Thanks!

Did you enable HDMI sync on the PS4? http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/settings/devicelink.html
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Hi, I recently bought a 50 R550A, I live in Vancouver , Canada.

Got it on November 28, took it back Nov 30 for a refund.

 

I was looking for a replacement for a 7 yo Toshiba 47LX196 LCD.

The Toshiba has had screen issues after the first year in the form of gray shadows vertically on yhe screen. I think it is dust/dirt accumulation on the screen but not sure.

 

After looking around for a few months, I decided on either the 802 or the R550A. Being budget minded, I decided on the R550A. After barely fitting it into my Toyota Echo HB ( and I mean just barely) got it home and the next day set everything up. Set up was quite straight forward, no issues, internet connect no problem etc etc. My first impression was WOW, what a great picture, esp. coming from a very flawed old Toshiba. 

After awhile I noticed on the opening screen ( Sony logo) the background was uneven...kinda looked like clouds. Just thought it was a "cloud background pic". Later that evening when things got DARK, I was flipping through the channels to the music stations. They have a black background. To my shock, I could see THE CLOUDS and light leakage!!!! Yikes! It was so uneven. I mean its worse than my 7 yo Toshiba..right out of the box! I tried many settings and inputs but all was the same. I quickly realized after searching the web I had light leak and clouding. I also noticed that the screen was getting lighter and darker sometimes...not sure what that was.

 

Well after watching a couple movies, TV, web content etc, I could see the cloud issue when the lights were  dark. Funny though in the daylight it was not noticeable on black screens or scenes.

Even though the pic quality of this TV is unreal ( as far as my eyes can tell) I could only see the CLOUDS and light leakage. It's true that when you know a flaw is there, your eye goes right to it.

 

So as mentioned above, I took it back for a refund a couple days later.

 

I want some opinions on weather I should move on from Sony or try one more time with this set.

Has anyone else got a "almost" perfect set? I know that with the poor build and QC of these new TVs (mine was built in Mexico) that a perfect set is not realistic, but close would be good.

I originally purchased at a local store, but would go to Costco to buy again ( if I am going that route)

 

Any other brands to look at? Samsung 55" 6300. Sharp 550U?

 

Here is a pic to show the problem. Colour is off, took with my old iphone...

 

post #3234 of 3972
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Originally Posted by Zoglog View Post

confirmed this as well. Which makes it perfect to use for powering the antec bias lighting!

It just so happens that a local computer store had the Antec bias lighting kit in stock, so I went ahead and bought a couple of them earlier today. I attached the two in an upside-down U pattern: along the top and the sides. Here's the result after installation:



With the lights on:



Since my TV is tilted down, it looks brighter on the top than the sides (increased distance for the light to spread). The tilt also makes it impractical to attach the strip along the bottom, since the TV is just about touching the wall (the TV being much thicker along this area doesn't help, either). The lighting looks uneven in the photo, but it isn't really an issue in person. I do think that it may be a tad too bright, however. I might use transparent/translucent tape and tape it over the lights to dim them a bit. With my old setup, my TV was about 11" from the wall on a hybrid stand, and I used fluorescent strip lights attached to the mounting brackets, and I was able to get a more uniform backlight:

post #3235 of 3972
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Originally Posted by chappy69 View Post

Hi, I recently bought a 50 R550A, I live in Vancouver , Canada.
Got it on November 28, took it back Nov 30 for a refund.

I was looking for a replacement for a 7 yo Toshiba 47LX196 LCD.
The Toshiba has had screen issues after the first year in the form of gray shadows vertically on yhe screen. I think it is dust/dirt accumulation on the screen but not sure.

After looking around for a few months, I decided on either the 802 or the R550A. Being budget minded, I decided on the R550A. After barely fitting it into my Toyota Echo HB ( and I mean just barely) got it home and the next day set everything up. Set up was quite straight forward, no issues, internet connect no problem etc etc. My first impression was WOW, what a great picture, esp. coming from a very flawed old Toshiba. 
After awhile I noticed on the opening screen ( Sony logo) the background was uneven...kinda looked like clouds. Just thought it was a "cloud background pic". Later that evening when things got DARK, I was flipping through the channels to the music stations. They have a black background. To my shock, I could see THE CLOUDS and light leakage!!!! Yikes! It was so uneven. I mean its worse than my 7 yo Toshiba..right out of the box! I tried many settings and inputs but all was the same. I quickly realized after searching the web I had light leak and clouding. I also noticed that the screen was getting lighter and darker sometimes...not sure what that was.

Well after watching a couple movies, TV, web content etc, I could see the cloud issue when the lights were  dark. Funny though in the daylight it was not noticeable on black screens or scenes.
Even though the pic quality of this TV is unreal ( as far as my eyes can tell) I could only see the CLOUDS and light leakage. It's true that when you know a flaw is there, your eye goes right to it.

So as mentioned above, I took it back for a refund a couple days later.

I want some opinions on weather I should move on from Sony or try one more time with this set.
Has anyone else got a "almost" perfect set? I know that with the poor build and QC of these new TVs (mine was built in Mexico) that a perfect set is not realistic, but close would be good.
I originally purchased at a local store, but would go to Costco to buy again ( if I am going that route)

Any other brands to look at? Samsung 55" 6300. Sharp 550U?

Here is a pic to show the problem. Colour is off, took with my old iphone...





This is a very common problem with all LCD panels. There isn't much you can do, although some are worse than others. Full array tv's are much better but are pricier and very hard to find now. I would get the Sony W802, it's a much better panel.
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post


This is a very common problem with all LCD panels. There isn't much you can do, although some are worse than others. Full array tv's are much better but are pricier and very hard to find now. I would get the Sony W802, it's a much better panel.

Thanks for the tip. I think you are right about all LED-LCD panels having some kind of issues. Guess its just finding one that has less issues! The 802 was nice for sure. Problem is Costco doesn't have it and I'd like to buy from Costco ( great return policy)  first 550 was from London Drugs, black Friday deal.

post #3237 of 3972
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Originally Posted by chappy69 View Post

Thanks for the tip. I think you are right about all LED-LCD panels having some kind of issues. Guess its just finding one that has less issues! The 802 was nice for sure. Problem is Costco doesn't have it and I'd like to buy from Costco ( great return policy)  first 550 was from London Drugs, black Friday deal.

If you want to buy in Costco, take a look at the Panasonic S60 plasma. Has better picture quality, deeper blacks, better motion, no clouding or flashlighting. Very affordable as well, just a suggestion.
post #3238 of 3972
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Originally Posted by chappy69 View Post

Hi, I recently bought a 50 R550A, I live in Vancouver , Canada.
Got it on November 28, took it back Nov 30 for a refund.

I was looking for a replacement for a 7 yo Toshiba 47LX196 LCD.
The Toshiba has had screen issues after the first year in the form of gray shadows vertically on yhe screen. I think it is dust/dirt accumulation on the screen but not sure.

After looking around for a few months, I decided on either the 802 or the R550A. Being budget minded, I decided on the R550A. After barely fitting it into my Toyota Echo HB ( and I mean just barely) got it home and the next day set everything up. Set up was quite straight forward, no issues, internet connect no problem etc etc. My first impression was WOW, what a great picture, esp. coming from a very flawed old Toshiba. 
After awhile I noticed on the opening screen ( Sony logo) the background was uneven...kinda looked like clouds. Just thought it was a "cloud background pic". Later that evening when things got DARK, I was flipping through the channels to the music stations. They have a black background. To my shock, I could see THE CLOUDS and light leakage!!!! Yikes! It was so uneven. I mean its worse than my 7 yo Toshiba..right out of the box! I tried many settings and inputs but all was the same. I quickly realized after searching the web I had light leak and clouding. I also noticed that the screen was getting lighter and darker sometimes...not sure what that was.

Well after watching a couple movies, TV, web content etc, I could see the cloud issue when the lights were  dark. Funny though in the daylight it was not noticeable on black screens or scenes.
Even though the pic quality of this TV is unreal ( as far as my eyes can tell) I could only see the CLOUDS and light leakage. It's true that when you know a flaw is there, your eye goes right to it.

So as mentioned above, I took it back for a refund a couple days later.

I want some opinions on weather I should move on from Sony or try one more time with this set.
Has anyone else got a "almost" perfect set? I know that with the poor build and QC of these new TVs (mine was built in Mexico) that a perfect set is not realistic, but close would be good.
I originally purchased at a local store, but would go to Costco to buy again ( if I am going that route)

Any other brands to look at? Samsung 55" 6300. Sharp 550U?

Here is a pic to show the problem. Colour is off, took with my old iphone...



Read a few posts above. We resolved a lot of the clouding with screen massaging. Think of it as massaging a cow. Massage those white spots... mooo
post #3239 of 3972
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Originally Posted by tezster View Post

It just so happens that a local computer store had the Antec bias lighting kit in stock, so I went ahead and bought a couple of them earlier today. I attached the two in an upside-down U pattern: along the top and the sides. Here's the result after installation:



With the lights on:



Since my TV is tilted down, it looks brighter on the top than the sides (increased distance for the light to spread). The tilt also makes it impractical to attach the strip along the bottom, since the TV is just about touching the wall (the TV being much thicker along this area doesn't help, either). The lighting looks uneven in the photo, but it isn't really an issue in person. I do think that it may be a tad too bright, however. I might use transparent/translucent tape and tape it over the lights to dim them a bit. With my old setup, my TV was about 11" from the wall on a hybrid stand, and I used fluorescent strip lights attached to the mounting brackets, and I was able to get a more uniform backlight:


Thanks for posting! can you show a picture how you stuck it on the back as well. My TV isn't wall mounted so I wonder if I should just put one strip straight across the top and one straight across the bottom.
post #3240 of 3972
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post


If you want to buy in Costco, take a look at the Panasonic S60 plasma. Has better picture quality, deeper blacks, better motion, no clouding or flashlighting. Very affordable as well, just a suggestion.

 

Do plasmas still have a burn-in issue like the older versions? In general they are not as bright as LEDs, but if they have less issues, I may think about it. Burn in worries me tho...

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