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post #691 of 3978
Regrettably, I have decided to return my 70" TV to Costco this weekend for a refund. I so much wanted this TV to work out well for us, but it is simply not the right TV for our room. This TV's poor off-angle PQ is unacceptable and I don't want to constantly contend with this sub-par condition everyday for the next several years. I sincerely hope all of you are able to fully enjoy your R550A's.
post #692 of 3978
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Originally Posted by cmartell View Post

YUP, the glow on the puck is due to the Motionflow effect on the tv, if you shut it off, everything becomes clear again. Be nice if we could have more calibreated setings posted here!!

Thanks, I'll try to turn off this setting tonight and see how it goes
post #693 of 3978
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Gotta say, I'm mystified as to how BB is able to have demonstration TVs that never show any defects at all (with their particular demo loops).

The 60R550A on the wall seemed perfect, even with gray patterns panning by.

The 60" Vizio (2013) for $999 looked every bit as spectacular.

I know the lighting there makes seeing things tough, but I'm still much irked by how difficult it is for us to get a defect free TV.
post #694 of 3978
Is anyone getting any luck with connect a wireless keyboard to this TV?? The USB Logitech receiver doesn't seem to work...

Appreciate it!
post #695 of 3978
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Originally Posted by kicksfever View Post

Is anyone getting any luck with connect a wireless keyboard to this TV?? The USB Logitech receiver doesn't seem to work...

Appreciate it!

A USB Logitech receiver? I don't understand. You mean one meant for a PC or Mac?

Even though USB, those things *still* require the hosting machine you're connecting them to to have drivers on it to "understand" the device. Those things are usually referred to as basic "HID Drivers" and the TVs that have them aren't that common I don't think. I know people have been able to plug a Logitech Keyboard adapter into some Samsung TVs and have it work, but as far as a "generic" keyboard solution, I haven't heard of one yet.

Good question though. Does Sony sell one specifically for their other TVs?
post #696 of 3978
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A USB Logitech receiver? I don't understand. You mean one meant for a PC or Mac?

Even though USB, those things *still* require the hosting machine you're connecting them to to have drivers on it to "understand" the device. Those things are usually referred to as basic "HID Drivers" and the TVs that have them aren't that common I don't think. I know people have been able to plug a Logitech Keyboard adapter into some Samsung TVs and have it work, but as far as a "generic" keyboard solution, I haven't heard of one yet.

Good question though. Does Sony sell one specifically for their other TVs?

Yes, the logitech receiver for a PC.

So how are people syncing wireless keyboards to the newer TVs??
post #697 of 3978
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

A USB Logitech receiver? I don't understand. You mean one meant for a PC or Mac?

Even though USB, those things *still* require the hosting machine you're connecting them to to have drivers on it to "understand" the device. Those things are usually referred to as basic "HID Drivers" and the TVs that have them aren't that common I don't think. I know people have been able to plug a Logitech Keyboard adapter into some Samsung TVs and have it work, but as far as a "generic" keyboard solution, I haven't heard of one yet.

Good question though. Does Sony sell one specifically for their other TVs?

What about "Media Remote for iPhone" ? It's free, includes a keyboard.
post #698 of 3978
I have not had any luck with any of the android based remotes working. Only thing that works with my phone is the youtube app.

Sucks that I have a brand new tv that cost quite a bit and none of the sony remote apps work.
post #699 of 3978
Haven't noticed any dse, tried Lawrence of Arabia and Dances with Wolves last night and didn't see anything, just a nice solid picture. What am I looking for?
post #700 of 3978
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Originally Posted by fullmetal6 View Post

I have not had any luck with any of the android based remotes working. Only thing that works with my phone is the youtube app.

Sucks that I have a brand new tv that cost quite a bit and none of the sony remote apps work.

Be careful here: I have a sony BDP that also understands the android app. Is it possible that the app is attempting to connect to the wrong device? I've been worried about this, but haven't yet crossed that bridge.
post #701 of 3978
Getting the 70" tomorrow and picked up the BDP-5100 today. Which one do you think will do the best job with the apps?
post #702 of 3978
I picked up a 70" at BB and totally agree with Sgooter.

I currently have a 64" Samsung Plasma and thought I would give this TV a try. I have a large living room and is open to the kitchen and dinning. This TV would have been great except for the loss of picture quality when moving any wider than the size of the TV. I have tried a few LED's in the past and this one has by far the best picture. If only the viewing angle was like my plasma, I would have kept this TV.

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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

Regrettably, I have decided to return my 70" TV to Costco this weekend for a refund. I so much wanted this TV to work out well for us, but it is simply not the right TV for our room. This TV's poor off-angle PQ is unacceptable and I don't want to constantly contend with this sub-par condition everyday for the next several years. I sincerely hope all of you are able to fully enjoy your R550A's.
post #703 of 3978
I had a bunch of reward zone points expiring so I picked up a Disney WOW disc that will be here next week. If I am happy with the results/settings, I will post here.
post #704 of 3978
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I had a bunch of reward zone points expiring so I picked up a Disney WOW disc that will be here next week. If I am happy with the results/settings, I will post here.

I ran the "easy" version of the WOW disc last night...(they have 3, one is easy, one is advanced, and one is for pros).

Very unimpressed with it so far. They gave instructions which could be interpreted in a couple ways, and refer to "contrast" which (despite most tvs having it) the R550A doesn't even have specifically labeled.

Also, it flashes at the beginning that there was an update available for the disk but it was gone in ~2 seconds. Nice message.

Many top calibrators seem to love this thing, so I'll try advanced tonight.
post #705 of 3978
In a Sony, Picture is the contrast setting.
post #706 of 3978
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

I ran the "easy" version of the WOW disc last night...(they have 3, one is easy, one is advanced, and one is for pros).

Very unimpressed with it so far. They gave instructions which could be interpreted in a couple ways, and refer to "contrast" which (despite most tvs having it) the R550A doesn't even have specifically labeled.

Also, it flashes at the beginning that there was an update available for the disk but it was gone in ~2 seconds. Nice message.

Many top calibrators seem to love this thing, so I'll try advanced tonight.

The picture function is the contrast control. There is also a free AVSHD calibration disc available here to download...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
post #707 of 3978
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Originally Posted by Bama29 View Post

In a Sony, Picture is the contrast setting.

That's what I assumed and did use, but "Picture" exits alongside contrast in some TVs, no?
post #708 of 3978
^^^As far as having both a "picture" and "contrast" setting, not on any of the 7 or 8 Sonys I've owned ranging from an '86 Trinitron XBR to a 2010 model EX-710 (or the 2 Mitsubishis, 2 Hitachis, etc.) According to the manuals with some of the older Sonys the "picture" setting also had some effect on color saturation.

I've owned a lot of calibration discs over the years, starting with the old Video Essentials on laser disc. What I typically did with Sony sets was adjust the "picture" setting with the "color" setting turned all the way down, then did the color setting per the calibration disc afterwards, so any color saturation change due to the "picture" setting was overridden. Keep in mind that there is some interaction between settings, particularly contrast and brightness so it's not uncommon to have to back and forth between the two to optimize things.

With the Disney WOW disc the basic or easiest level isn't much better than the THX optimizer that shows up in the special features section of some dvds. The midrange adjustment is more comprehensive and gives you a pretty good idea of just what the controls are actually doing, once one gets the hang of that the advanced patterns are really useful.
post #709 of 3978
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Originally Posted by Steve S View Post

^^^As far as having both a "picture" and "contrast" setting, not on any of the 7 or 8 Sonys I've owned ranging from an '86 Trinitron XBR to a 2010 model EX-710 (or the 2 Mitsubishis, 2 Hitachis, etc.) According to the manuals with some of the older Sonys the "picture" setting also had some effect on color saturation.

I've owned a lot of calibration discs over the years, starting with the old Video Essentials on laser disc. What I typically did with Sony sets was adjust the "picture" setting with the "color" setting turned all the way down, then did the color setting per the calibration disc afterwards, so any color saturation change due to the "picture" setting was overridden. Keep in mind that there is some interaction between settings, particularly contrast and brightness so it's not uncommon to have to back and forth between the two to optimize things.

Oh I know. Drives me nuts, but I emotionally prepare myself for that before I buy a tv. smile.gif

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With the Disney WOW disc the basic or easiest level isn't much better than the THX optimizer that shows up in the special features section of some dvds. The midrange adjustment is more comprehensive and gives you a pretty good idea of just what the controls are actually doing, once one gets the hang of that the advanced patterns are really useful.

Thanks! BTW, why is there no "panning" test? (Or is there?)

It's the best way I know of to analyze the true annoying effect of DSE/uneven lighting. And things go great with semi-static scenes, and then >pow<, you're reminded of how good the eye is at edge detection / pattern recognition.
post #710 of 3978
I should have the new Spears and Munsil version 2 sometime Saturday. From the reviews I've read this newest version is pretty good. It includes 3D calibrations. I'll play with it over the long weekend and post my preferred set up for the 70R550A. I'll also be hooking up a new Yamaha 573 ($349 from Amazon).
post #711 of 3978
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

I should have the new Spears and Munsil version 2 sometime Saturday. From the reviews I've read this newest version is pretty good. It includes 3D calibrations. I'll play with it over the long weekend and post my preferred set up for the 70R550A. I'll also be hooking up a new Yamaha 573 ($349 from Amazon).

My 70R550 is getting delivered tomorrow and will also be hooking up to my 1yr old Yamaha 573( Both purchased from Frys at incredible discount). Looking forward to your settings.
post #712 of 3978
Any pro reviews on this set yet?
post #713 of 3978
None that I've seen. I was hoping for something from CNET or HD Guru by now. Guru said he's tried to get one but Sony won't cooperate. Panasonic sure doesn't have any problems getting reviews. They are everywhere. Same with Sammy's F8500 and F8000.
post #714 of 3978
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

Getting the 70" tomorrow and picked up the BDP-5100 today. Which one do you think will do the best job with the apps?

Generally speaking, Sony uses the same framework and platform for all their apps ..... it doesn't matter if you are using the Amazon VOD app on a Sony TV, a BD player or even the long gong Sony Dash .... they all looks the same.

The TV may have improved performance though, depending on the hardware.
post #715 of 3978
They came and set the TV up about an hour ago. Looks pretty good. One problem. I can't get the glasses to stay together. Are the lenses supposed to snap onto the frame and stay secure? They just kind of fall off. Pretty cheap feeling glasses overall. Does anybody make better high quality glasses? Haven't really found a setting combination that I love. Hopefully the Sears and Munsil Calibration disc will wow me. I see that it's now set to deliver tomorrow instead of Saturday.
post #716 of 3978
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

They came and set the TV up about an hour ago. Looks pretty good. One problem. I can't get the glasses to stay together. Are the lenses supposed to snap onto the frame and stay secure? They just kind of fall off. Pretty cheap feeling glasses overall. Does anybody make better high quality glasses? Haven't really found a setting combination that I love. Hopefully the Sears and Munsil Calibration disc will wow me. I see that it's now set to deliver tomorrow instead of Saturday.

The glasses confused me at first too. Basically you can see how they fit in (vertically) and when you apply enough pressure (carefully making sure to press in a way that doesn't bend anything) then you will feel a distinct >pop< indicating they are attached. Actually, one of the glasses didn't pop, but held just as tightly.....still not sure on that one, or if I missed it by not paying attention when it happened.

I held it carefully with my thumb on the top of the frame in the middle, and my index finger in the nose indent. This way a lot of pressure could be applied (IIRC) without anything bending. You'll see what I mean (I hope).
post #717 of 3978
Thanks. In this case WIFE to the rescue. So far the simulated 3D is ehhhh. The glasses we got from the theater when we watched Avatar work perfectly with the Sony. They are a little heavier but much more substantial build quality.
post #718 of 3978
FYI the LG Cinema glasses work great with this TV. I wanted some clip ons for my regular glasses and ended up getting this multipack that has two clip ons, 2 other adult sizes, and 2 little kid sizes on sale for only 3 dollars more than one clip on alone: http://www.amazon.com/LG-AG-F216-Cinema-Glasses-6-Pairs/dp/B005EWTKN2

Clip ons are truly wonderful to have if you need to wear regular glasses.
post #719 of 3978
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

Thanks. In this case WIFE to the rescue. So far the simulated 3D is ehhhh. The glasses we got from the theater when we watched Avatar work perfectly with the Sony. They are a little heavier but much more substantial build quality.

The Sony glasses as grown on me rather quickly. They don't look as cool as other 3d glasses but the lens itself is a good build quality. Since it clips on it stays straight and solid

My father has the LG tv with the lg glasses and the lens are more of a flimsy feel to it where it's not straight and smooth.

Also to compare 3D
Display the Sony TV is a lot more sharp and clear compared to the LG55lm6700. However the LG content appears to pops out more at you.
post #720 of 3978
Ohhhh no! My Sony 3D blu-ray player doesn't recognize my Sony 3D TV. Brats
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