Originally Posted by owtuv
dbone, how do you interpret this spec from the dune-hd.com site ?
HDMI Audio Output (PCM):
AC3 (Dolby Digital) Up to 5.1
EAC3 (Dolby Digital Plus) Up to 7.1
Dolby True HD Up to 7.1
DTS Up to 5.1
DTS HD High Resolution Aduio Up to 7.1
DTS Master Audio Up to 7.1
I guess you might be right about Dune not having licenced TrueHD and this being the reason why the Base 3D does not output TrueHD PCM, but I don't agree that Dune has their specs "technically" correct, I would rather call it "misleading advertising".
About 3 weeks ago I bought a Dune HD Base 3D and immediately had issues with it. I wouldn't mind but I carefully had, during the preceding month, undertaken extensive research. It was going to be a HiMedia, Mede8er or a Dune - too many people had grumbles about the Popcorn Hour.
I went on the respective forums and raised support issues and frankly the left arm didn't know what the right arm was about! The decoding of LPCM by the media player itself is extremely important for audiophiles. People who spend more of their hard earned cash on not just the picture quality but also the sound output would maybe agree that 5.1/7.1 lossless analogue sound received via a LPCM signal into a costly 5.1/7.1 Multichannel amp will sound better than via Bitstream, using the same equipment - the purpose of this post though is not to debate this matter but just to show that media players need to decode LPCM themselves, not relying on handshaking (EDID) to do it, for audiophiles like me.
I studied the specs in great detail and had forum members doing tests for me and it was only when the guys over at the MPC Club actually set up a test with a Dune 303D and proved that it worked, that I took the plunge. The Mede8er Manufacturing guys lied through their teeth rather than admit their machines could not decode LPCM saying their specs were correct, but after some serious digging, they confirmed that the disc image itself had to have an embedded LPCM track in it after which EDID would take over! So in other words Mede8er your machines cannot decode LPCM. I wasted several weeks establishing this - the situation was true of HiMedia but they were more promptly honest about it. Have any of them amended their specs to clearly state any of this? - Have they f**k !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shame to them all. I would however condone the use of Amazon when making purchases because twice I bought a machine in good faith but within a few hours after establishing that they could not do what they say on the tin, I immediately cancelled, before despatch took place.
So coming to the Dune HD Base 3D everything that dbone has said is absolutely 100% correct - I established it the hard way. In addition I had to apply 1. an updated official firmware update, 2. the b5 beta update and 3. the b6 beta update before still finding that it would not pass through 5.1/7.1 LPCM. That was when I visited http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2013/02/07/review-dune-hd-tv303d/#comment-16821
and Damian's superb review of the TV303D. I had to find the Multichannel .dsf file and then Hurrah! I could get 5.1/7.1 DTS HD MA signals at long last
But sadly no Dolby Tru HD
I am not going to slag off Dune as they seem the best players around at the moment but they are sadly in need of a stable firmware update and not the pile of s**t that represents the latest beta - what a giraffe that is!
But I am receiving excellent sound quality now and some of my recent music disc images sound breathtaking - for example, Roy Orbison's Black and White Night, Paul McCartney's Live Kisses and Supertramp Live in Paris (1979) to name three. So all is not doom and gloom. Now putting my 18,000 music file collection in some form like yaDIS for my films is proving stupid too. Too many Dune quirks working with NFS/Samba network connections and just learned that the reason why my internal HDD won't spin down is because it doesn't in plain standby mode - stupid or what?.
I hope this helps others searching for a good "sounding" media player.
rozEdited by rozel - 5/12/13 at 4:24am