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post #61 of 421
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Originally Posted by werd View Post

So all of this is mumble jumble to me but if you were getting a synology what drives would you pair it with? Thanks.

WD Red is specific to that purpose. Not a bad choice at all.

Seagate would work fine also.
post #62 of 421
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WD Red is specific to that purpose. Not a bad choice at all.

Seagate would work fine also.

Don't listen to Mfusick. He's lying.
post #63 of 421
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

WD Red is specific to that purpose. Not a bad choice at all.

Seagate would work fine also.

Don't listen to Mfusick. He's lying.

Lol. ^

BTW- I am seeing RED WD's for $130, Seagates for $119 and Toshiba even $115 (all 3TB sizes)

At these prices it's hard to think of a Green for anything but basic internal storage, and even then it's a poor choice if it's more expensive. I wonder why Green is no longer competitive on price like it once was ??
post #64 of 421
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Lol. ^

BTW- I am seeing RED WD's for $130, Seagates for $119 and Toshiba even $115 (all 3TB sizes)

At these prices it's hard to think of a Green for anything but basic internal storage, and even then it's a poor choice if it's more expensive. I wonder why Green is no longer competitive on price like it once was ??

Where do you see these prices???
post #65 of 421
Red WD was on slick deal.net yesterday. Toshiba two days ago newegg. I got an email from new egg with $20 coupon code for Seagate.

Those are the good prices I've seen in last 7 days.
post #66 of 421
So what drives should I put in my first HTPC? biggrin.gif
post #67 of 421
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So what drives should I put in my first HTPC? biggrin.gif

Red vs Green vs Barracuda are all pretty much the same. I have both a Green and a Red 3TB in my HTPC and haven't had any issues. Future upgrades will only have the Reds because of the longer warranty (3 year vs Seagates and Greens 2) and it seems to produce less heat...but the warranty period will be the biggest deciding factor.
post #68 of 421
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So what drives should I put in my first HTPC? biggrin.gif


I'd get a Seagate 3TB with the 1TB platters for $119.

Cheaper. Faster. Better. Personally I trust it; I've installed over 20 without a single issue yet.
post #69 of 421
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Originally Posted by jjkusaf1 View Post

Red vs Green vs Barracuda are all pretty much the same. I have both a Green and a Red 3TB in my HTPC and haven't had any issues. Future upgrades will only have the Reds because of the longer warranty (3 year vs Seagates and Greens 2) and it seems to produce less heat...but the warranty period will be the biggest deciding factor.

Good advice. They are all somewhat of a crap shoot and use many of the same internal parts. I would choose the Red if its $10-$15 more for the warranty alone. Otherwise go with the best dollar per GB.
post #70 of 421
Just as another data point: I have had terrible success with WD Green drives.

Here is an old post:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1320098/western-digital-green-hdds-in-raid5-no-tler-huge-problem/90#post_20425517

....and a lot more info in that overall thread.

I lost 13 of 16 WD Greens in an array over a 1.5 year period.

Most have now been replaced with WD Blacks and Hitachi'....and not a failure in 9 months.

Now the $1mm question: Was this just a terribly flawed "Green" model (WD20EADS), that Western quickly discontinued and fixed on subsequent models?

Could be likely. But, I am soured forever. I know lots of people have had great success with the Greens. Just not sure how many people have had a large population sample (>>10 drives) and had them spinning 24/7 for over a year.
post #71 of 421
I've had an inordinate amount of green drives fail on me. (near 100%)

While the WD RMA process is ok, and I got replaced without issue I did lose about 3TB totally full of blu ray rips on one which pissed me off. The drive was only 6 months old.

I have had 2TB and 3TB fail, as well as EADS, EARS EARX and EDRX models. All purchased from different times and places too. So it's not a bad batch in case.
I believe my issues are more because I tend to use them hard and WD greens have lower endurance, plus some general bad luck.

I think your issue above is probably a bad batch.
post #72 of 421
They were purchased from three different sources over a period of seven months. No correlation to any one group.

Also, very light use. Although running 24/7, recordings are done on a separate drive and batch transferred daily in wee hours.
post #73 of 421
p.s.

And some of these failures were failures of WD warranty replacements that were shipped (and mgr dated) over a year later (new, not re-certified drives).

I can say for sure today, that the WD20EADS's were junk as my current non-green drives are rock solid.
post #74 of 421
No mention of 4 tb? It's on the cusp of being the best $/TB option, if it isn't there already. And wd is nowhere to be seen.
post #75 of 421
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No mention of 4 tb? It's on the cusp of being the best $/TB option, if it isn't there already. And wd is nowhere to be seen.


I'm sure we will see them more when they transition into the newer platter design using 1TB platters (4 of them)

For now 3TB Seagate (1TB platters x3) > 4TB drives (800GB platters x5)

The 4TB drives are still a pig on energy/heat/noise as compared to the newer design. 3 platters is better than 5 platters on heat/noise/energy profiles, and the higher density 1TB platters also boost performance too so it's pure win everywhere.

When it comes to buying hard drives there is a difference internally how they are- and I tend to favor the higher performance, newer, better, more modern designs. They almost always are higher performance and use less energy.

So assuming you can get a 3TB drive with three 1TB platters inside for $120 ($40 per TB) I'd take that every time over a 4TB (5 platters) for the same cost per TB ($40).

I think 4TB drives will need to either do 2 things:

#1. Drop below $40 per TB to show a reasonable cost savings. (Think sub $145 for a 4TB)
or
#2. Feature newer/better 1TB platters inside (4 x 1TB) like the 3TB do so they are competitive on performance, energy, heat and noise.
post #76 of 421
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I'm sure we will see them more when they transition into the newer platter design using 1TB platters (4 of them)

For now 3TB Seagate (1TB platters x3) > 4TB drives (800GB platters x5)

The 4TB drives are still a pig on energy/heat/noise as compared to the newer design. 3 platters is better than 5 platters on heat/noise/energy profiles, and the higher density 1TB platters also boost performance too so it's pure win everywhere.

When it comes to buying hard drives there is a difference internally how they are- and I tend to favor the higher performance, newer, better, more modern designs. They almost always are higher performance and use less energy.

So assuming you can get a 3TB drive with three 1TB platters inside for $120 ($40 per TB) I'd take that every time over a 4TB (5 platters) for the same cost per TB ($40).

I think 4TB drives will need to either do 2 things:

#1. Drop below $40 per TB to show a reasonable cost savings. (Think sub $145 for a 4TB)
or
#2. Feature newer/better 1TB platters inside (4 x 1TB) like the 3TB do so they are competitive on performance, energy, heat and noise.

If you only have 1-2 hard drive slots in your case (which many HTPCs cases have) then 4TB is an extremely good option for a HTPC and now quite affordable compared to even a few months ago.
post #77 of 421
I think the new Seagate 4TB drives are the 4 platter version.
They are in the new GoFLex external drives. The drive ST4000DM000 (which is the 4 platter version). It is only a 5,900 RPM drive, so the read times are a little slower than the 3TB version (but from the pdf below the power usage is less than the 3TB).

You can compare them here:

http://www.seagate.com/files/staticfiles/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/barracuda-desktop-hdd-ds-1770-1-1212us.pdf


I have two of the XT 4TB 7,200 RPM 5 platter drives. I have been using them for a little while, but they have been fine.


Do you think the new 4TB 5,900 4 platter drives are fast enough for a HTPC (will they be notically slower than the 3TB)?
post #78 of 421
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Originally Posted by Guinness77 View Post



Do you think the new 4TB 5,900 4 platter drives are fast enough for a HTPC (will they be notically slower than the 3TB)?

No, they will not be noticeably slower. Not at all for storage and playback.

As a side note I saw a comparison between the 3 platter and 4 platter 3TB drives and there was very little performance difference. But this is all a moot point if you are just using it for playback and storage as all will be plenty fast many times over for playback of HD media to multiple devices.
Edited by assassin - 3/23/13 at 9:38am
post #79 of 421
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If you only have 1-2 hard drive slots in your case (which many HTPCs cases have) then 4TB is an extremely good option for a HTPC and now quite affordable compared to even a few months ago.


This would be a good point. Thanks I forgot this. In this sense you are correct and that you can get 8TB of storage in two slots as opposed to 6TB of storage in same space/slots. For those limited on HDD space this would be a good benefit for sure.

I'm spoiled and perhaps shortsighted in the fact my HTPC is SSD only and I keep my storage elsewhere. My server has 20 Bays tongue.gif and my Desktop even has 16 eek.gif My old server case is empty and unused in the basement and it hold 14 biggrin.gif so I might be putting too much personal situation into my posts.

I actually bought a Seagate 4TB for my mother at Costco. External. I loaded it up with TV shows and movies for her and chose the 4TB exactly for the reason you say. Because it simply held 1TB more in the same space (1 USB drive).

If you have the bays, available such as in a server I do believe 3TB > 4TB until they change the platters to 1TB technology though. Assuming you are spending the same cost per TB, I'd rather have the current Seagate 3TB's over the alternatives because in a whole it's a better drive on all fronts. Nothing wrong with the 4TB's I just think the 3TB are better.



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Edited by Mfusick - 3/23/13 at 10:47am
post #80 of 421
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Originally Posted by Guinness77 View Post

I think the new Seagate 4TB drives are the 4 platter version.
They are in the new GoFLex external drives. The drive ST4000DM000 (which is the 4 platter version). It is only a 5,900 RPM drive, so the read times are a little slower than the 3TB version (but from the pdf below the power usage is less than the 3TB).

You can compare them here:

http://www.seagate.com/files/staticfiles/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/barracuda-desktop-hdd-ds-1770-1-1212us.pdf


I have two of the XT 4TB 7,200 RPM 5 platter drives. I have been using them for a little while, but they have been fine.


Do you think the new 4TB 5,900 4 platter drives are fast enough for a HTPC (will they be notically slower than the 3TB)?

regardless if the 3TB is faster, or the 7200rpm is faster than the 5400rpm variants they are all perfectly fine in speed. I'm not sure the difference would be very significant real world as to matter much.

I tend to buy more on energy profile and cost per TB. Cost per TB being paramount. All things being equal, then I move to the performance aspect as a tie breaker.

So if the 3TB is cheaper per TB, uses less energy, and it is faster then it's my choice. If the 4TB was either faster, or more energy efficient then I would still go 3TB based on cost per TB. If the 4TB was cheaper per TB then I would probably go with the 4TB. Cost being the most important to me on all counts. I only look significantly at the energy or speed as a secondary consideration when the cost is close enough to make me think about it. I'm not sure spending $20 per drive more for energy efficiency is worth it at all today. In fact I think it's a foolish move only an idiot would make. It's very unlikely you would save $20 in electricity costs; I view spending more$ for less performance a stupid move but I am sure others might disagree. I guess this foundation for my personal decision making process makes me place cost per TB above other factors in importance.

Even the slowest 2TB Green WD (probably one of the slowest drives around) can do 4 or 5 HD movies at once, and those unreliable little crap boxes only put out about 55MB/sec real world when they fill up. A monster Seagate 3TB or 4TB beast will do double or tripple that speed easily so I am not sure it matters much if one drive is 140MB/sec and another is 160MB/sec in speed. It's like a car that goes 140mph vs a car that goes 160mph that you'll only drive to work at the posted speed limit.

If you finding deals on the 4TB drives (especially if they are more energy efficient, or use the 1TB platters) I'd say go for it. Nothing wrong with that. We are splitting hairs if the costs are nearly the same. I'm generalizing in my viewpoint based on the last 90 days market prices of 4TB are just above 3TB drives. That of coarse appears to be changing.

5TB drives with 1TB platters are on the horizon. 5 platters like the current 4TB (800GBx5) but an extra 1TB of space in the same spot and probably more energy efficient for sure. That's a pure winner as long as pricing is good. I'd image the 3TB to drop to about $99 soon though... making it a good deal even better. In the end it is the cost per TB that matter more to me than how many platters or how fast so buy what you can get at good prices and use the technical aspects of each drive as added value measuring stick.
post #81 of 421
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

regardless if the 3TB is faster, or the 7200rpm is faster than the 5400rpm variants they are all perfectly fine in speed. I'm not sure the difference would be very significant real world as to matter much.

I tend to buy more on energy profile and cost per TB. Cost per TB being paramount. All things being equal, then I move to the performance aspect as a tie breaker.

So if the 3TB is cheaper per TB, uses less energy, and it is faster then it's my choice. If the 4TB was either faster, or more energy efficient then I would still go 3TB based on cost per TB. If the 4TB was cheaper per TB then I would probably go with the 4TB. Cost being the most important to me on all counts. I only look significantly at the energy or speed as a secondary consideration when the cost is close enough to make me think about it. I'm not sure spending $20 per drive more for energy efficiency is worth it at all today. In fact I think it's a foolish move only an idiot would make. It's very unlikely you would save $20 in electricity costs; I view spending more$ for less performance a stupid move but I am sure others might disagree. I guess this foundation for my personal decision making process makes me place cost per TB above other factors in importance.

Even the slowest 2TB Green WD (probably one of the slowest drives around) can do 4 or 5 HD movies at once, and those unreliable little crap boxes only put out about 55MB/sec real world when they fill up. A monster Seagate 3TB or 4TB beast will do double or tripple that speed easily so I am not sure it matters much if one drive is 140MB/sec and another is 160MB/sec in speed. It's like a car that goes 140mph vs a car that goes 160mph that you'll only drive to work at the posted speed limit.

If you finding deals on the 4TB drives (especially if they are more energy efficient, or use the 1TB platters) I'd say go for it. Nothing wrong with that. We are splitting hairs if the costs are nearly the same. I'm generalizing in my viewpoint based on the last 90 days market prices of 4TB are just above 3TB drives. That of coarse appears to be changing.

5TB drives with 1TB platters are on the horizon. 5 platters like the current 4TB (800GBx5) but an extra 1TB of space in the same spot and probably more energy efficient for sure. That's a pure winner as long as pricing is good. I'd image the 3TB to drop to about $99 soon though... making it a good deal even better. In the end it is the cost per TB that matter more to me than how many platters or how fast so buy what you can get at good prices and use the technical aspects of each drive as added value measuring stick.

That's a bunch of EXTREMELY biased gibberish.
post #82 of 421



Your right. This spec sheet appears to be based on the newest design (1TB) platters. Assuming your getting those I think you'd be doing very well with any of them.
All these drives above are very good. Confusion sets in when you start cross shopping the older designs versus the new designs. All 3TB or 4TB (or even 2TB) drives are not the same, and that is where the confusion is.

Assassin first post used an old technologySeagate 3TB drive with 5 platters of 600GB to compare against a newer 3TB Green/Red WD drive with three 1TB platters, and suggested they are on par. Not a fair comparison as the newer model Seagate 3TB with 1TB platters just romps them handily.
post #83 of 421
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That's a bunch of EXTREMELY biased gibberish.

Biased on what? Finding a good deal?

That's all I am saying. Go back and re-read it. I'd even consider buying a Green drive if it had a significant enough better cost per TB ratio -and WD GREEN are probably the poorest reputation for quality around have shorter warranty, and also the poorest performer in speed. Personally I just weight the aspect of cost per TB higher as a purchase decision factor than how fast a HDD is or how much energy it might use. Not saying the other factors don't matter because they certainly do- it's just I don't believe you need to pay a lot extra for them because they don't matter that much. Any HDD will work if it stays working. Reliability and cost per TB are always #1 IMO.
post #84 of 421
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

If you have the bays, available such as in a server I do believe 3TB > 4TB until they change the platters to 1TB technology though. Assuming you are spending the same cost per TB, I'd rather have the current Seagate 3TB's over the alternatives because in a whole it's a better drive on all fronts. Nothing wrong with the 4TB's I just think the 3TB are better.

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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Assassin first post used an old technologySeagate 3TB drive with 5 platters of 600GB to compare against a newer 3TB Green/Red WD drive with three 1TB platters, and suggested they are on par. Not a fair comparison as the newer model Seagate 3TB with 1TB platters just romps them handily.

This "whole lot better" is largely a figment of your imagination. Or placebo. Or marketing (which is what you always reference).

I have already referenced this once but let me do it again. This thread is comparing the Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB ST33000651AS (after which I will refer to it as the XT) which uses five platters vs the WD Red and WD Green 3TB drives.

Now let's compare the new Seagate Barracuda 3TB ST3000DM001 (after which I will refer to it as the Barracuda) which has three platters.

So let's see if your assertion and proclamation is correct on if the new three platter drives being "a whole lot better on all fronts" and "romps them handidly" is correct. Let's also validate your accusation that I was unfair in using the XT as a comparison.

(Data taken from Anand Shimpi's testing whose opinion I value a great deal)
















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The Barracuda XT was consistently faster than the new 3TB Barracuda in our trace based benchmarks. Keep in mind that both of these tests were created on and for SSDs.
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Power consumption is obviously lower than the old Barracuda XT, but still not quite as low as a 5400RPM Barracuda Green or WD Caviar Green. If you were expecting the new Barracuda to completely replace the outgoing Barracuda Green you will be disappointed. It looks like if you need a high capacity, low power 3.5" drive going forward it won't be from Seagate.
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The new 3TB Barracuda is a bit faster in sequential performance than the old Barracuda XT, at lower power consumption. In typical desktop workloads I think it's fairly safe to say that you wouldn't notice the difference between the Barracuda and Barracuda XT.

This data actually looks very similar to the original post of this thread. In fact, I would say it refutes your hypothesis that the new Seagate Barracuda three platter drives are "a whole lot better on all fronts" and "romps them handidly". In fact, I think the parameters of Anand Shimpi's testing favor the Green drives for storage. Now, I won't go that far as I think any of the three would be perfectly acceptable. But to say that the Seagate Barracuda is "a whole lot better on all fronts" and "romps them handidly" is utter gibberish when using data --- and I have now provided 2 sets of objective data from 2 different independent reviewers that also corroborates this opinion.

Again, its one thing to post a biased opinion based on what you own and to accuse and flame other people for providing their opinion. But its quite another to provide actual objective independent data to support your claim instead of quoting marketing material or opinions from other equally biased and uninformed forum posters that you read on the internet.
Edited by assassin - 3/23/13 at 12:26pm
post #85 of 421
Just a note that the Seagate 3TB (ST3000DM001) is $120 delivered from Newegg for members.
post #86 of 421
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Originally Posted by tomandbeth View Post

Just a note that the Seagate 3TB (ST3000DM001) is $120 delivered from Newegg for members.

The Seagate has been one of the best bargains for a hard drive for the last few months in regards to price pr GB (near the pre-flood price ratio). I remember when 2TB drives were routinely $80 ($40/TB). I have bought a couple myself.
post #87 of 421
Take a look at these 2 Seagate product manuals.

This manual on page 11 shows both the 3TB & 4TB having 4 platters.
Note - this 3TB is model 3ST3000DM003.
http://www.seagate.com/files/staticfiles/support/docs/manual/desktop/Desktop%20HDD%20Gen%2015/100710254-rev-c.pdf

This manual on page 11 states the 3TB model has 3 platters.
Note - this is model 3ST3000DM001.
Also notice the 2TB model ST2000DM001 comes in both 3 & 2 platter versions, and that’s for the same model number.
http://www.seagate.com/files/staticfiles/support/docs/manual/desktop/Barracuda%207200.14/100686584.pdf
post #88 of 421
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This "whole lot better" is largely a figment of your imagination. Or placebo. Or marketing (which is what you always reference).


It's [ quote ] " whole lot better " [end quote]

The WD green is trash for so many reasons I don't feel like repeating. Just go back and re-read everything above. I have yet to see a drive that competes with the Seagate on all fronts, (cost, performance, reliability). I know you love WD and prefer them over Seagate and that's ok. wink.gif
I used to love them too. But technology changes so quick - and yesterday is no longer today.
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(Data taken from Anand Shimpi's testing whose opinion I value a great deal) [huge disagreement here from mfusick]

I could not possibly disagree with you more. Anand is perhaps the very most biased forum and articles on PC hardware online today. I very often disagree with them as they are biased and slanted to specific purposes that just don't include the whole of users. This is no different. In the context of basic storage server- that entire article leaves much to be desired and non of his results match the various other sources I have seen.

How you value his opinion over other's blow my mind. I linked 5 reviews of that seagate (all very positive and more substantial) versus your 1 biased source. 5 versus 1. So your telling me Anand is right and 5 other reviewers are wrong?
All those charts and crap you posted are based on using the drive for an OS. Who is going to do that ??? I could care less about those benchmarks or anything that review is saying because it's written from the perspective that's just not on the level of my intended usage.

The only benchmark on a storage drive that matters is sequential reads and writes, and access time. Even those are not super important. We are talking milliseconds difference in speed of how fast a movie starts playing. It matters not.
Any if your keeping track- the access time- the seq read/write of the seagate is way faster. I'd say it "romps it handily" in performance. Of coarse that's second to the cost per TB and the reliability (which seagate also wins)


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The Barracuda XT was consistently faster than the new 3TB Barracuda in our trace based benchmarks. Keep in mind that both of these tests were created on and for SSDs.

Huh? That makes no sense. And for some reason Anand article does not have the same results of the other 5 reviews I have seen which makes me think they are doing something wrong or just biased.
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Power consumption is obviously lower than the old Barracuda XT, but still not quite as low as a 5400RPM Barracuda Green or WD Caviar Green. If you were expecting the new Barracuda to completely replace the outgoing Barracuda Green you will be disappointed. It looks like if you need a high capacity, low power 3.5" drive going forward it won't be from Seagate.

The power difference is actually very small. Small enough as to not matter at all in actual $ spend on electricity. It's not going to outweigh the higher performance and lower cost to purchase at all . I'd rather keep $20 in my pocket and buy the better Seagate.
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The new 3TB Barracuda is a bit faster in sequential performance than the old Barracuda XT, at lower power consumption. In typical desktop workloads I think it's fairly safe to say that you wouldn't notice the difference between the Barracuda and Barracuda XT.

So then what's the point? Faster for less power- and lower cost seems good ???
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This data actually looks very similar to the original post of this thread. In fact, I would say it refutes your hypothesis that the new Seagate Barracuda three platter drives are "a whole lot better on all fronts" and "romps them handidly". In fact, I think the parameters of Anand Shimpi's testing favor the Green drives for storage. Now, I won't go that far as I think any of the three would be perfectly acceptable. But to say that the Seagate Barracuda is "a whole lot better on all fronts" and "romps them handidly" is utter gibberish when using data --- and I have now provided 2 sets of objective data from 2 different independent reviewers that also corroborates this opinion.

Again, its one thing to post a biased opinion based on what you own and to accuse and flame other people for providing their opinion. But its quite another to provide actual objective independent data to support your claim instead of quoting marketing material or opinions from other equally biased and uninformed forum posters that you read on the internet.

No- You went digging and the only souce you can find is biased Anand that is old and the results don't jive with the other 5 tests and reviews being done. I've posted enough evidence to support my preference and show the error in your creating this thread.

When the Seagate sells for $20 cheaper, performs better, is more reliable, and has a wide range of uses I have no clue how you can't give it the nod over a WD green. WD green has a myriad of reliability issues, sells for more $, performs much worse, and has a very narrow purpose use.
The entire purpose of this thread make no sense, and your motivation to show the WD drive in the best possible light is unknown to me.
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Originally Posted by Mike99 View Post

Take a look at these 2 Seagate product manuals.

This manual on page 11 shows both the 3TB & 4TB having 4 platters.
Note - this 3TB is model 3ST3000DM003.
http://www.seagate.com/files/staticfiles/support/docs/manual/desktop/Desktop%20HDD%20Gen%2015/100710254-rev-c.pdf

This manual on page 11 states the 3TB model has 3 platters.
Note - this is model 3ST3000DM001.
Also notice the 2TB model ST2000DM001 comes in both 3 & 2 platter versions, and that’s for the same model number.
http://www.seagate.com/files/staticfiles/support/docs/manual/desktop/Barracuda%207200.14/100686584.pdf

Yes the newer models use the 1TB platters (good)
post #90 of 421
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

When the Seagate sells for $20 cheaper, performs better, is more reliable, and has a wide range of uses I have no clue how you can't give it the nod over a WD green. WD green has a myriad of reliability issues, sells for more $, performs much worse, and has a very narrow purpose use.
The entire purpose of this thread make no sense, and your motivation to show the WD drive in the best possible light is unknown to me.

I must agree with Mfusick here. I have used, Seagate, WD, Samsung, and Hitachi for mechanical drives. As a whole, WD has easily been the most disappointing of the group. Not only that, but my WD Green drives have been the 2nd least reliable drives I own. The first being some WD 160GB drives from long ago. In addition, I do not own a single WD drive that performed faster than any other manufacturer's drive in the same class.
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