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post #331 of 576
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Wait a couple weeks for the release of the Intel NUC Kit D34010WYK or the revised Brix with a "Haswell" CPU. The new i3 NUC has a slightly lower clock than the "Ivy Bridge" CPU in the Brix you specified but the new "Haswell" CPUs also include a GPU that supports 4K video, true 24p (23.976fps), and improved 1080i de-interlacing. The new NUCs also include built-in IR receivers for use with universal remotes if you plan to use IR control.

IMHO, the GPU improvements are more important for a HTPC than the CPU specs as long as they are in the same ballpark.

That said, if those improvements are not important considerations there should be some deals on the previous generation NUC and Brix units and your setup looks great.

I'm waiting!
post #332 of 576
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Wait a couple weeks for the release of the Intel NUC Kit D34010WYK or the revised Brix with a "Haswell" CPU. The new i3 NUC has a slightly lower clock than the "Ivy Bridge" CPU in the Brix you specified but the new "Haswell" CPUs also include a GPU that supports 4K video, true 24p (23.976fps), and improved 1080i de-interlacing. The new NUCs also include built-in IR receivers for use with universal remotes if you plan to use IR control.

IMHO, the GPU improvements are more important for a HTPC than the CPU specs as long as they are in the same ballpark.

That said, if those improvements are not important considerations there should be some deals on the previous generation NUC and Brix units and your setup looks great.

Thanks for your post, very informative. I'm going ahead with the hardware I listed. I don't not plan to be a 4k adopter anytime soon. smile.gif
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post #334 of 576
Would the dual core NUC model fr $167 be enough for XBMC, Netflix and Hulu? Will it downmix HD AUDIO to stereo?
post #335 of 576
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Would the dual core NUC model fr $167 be enough for XBMC, Netflix and Hulu? Will it downmix HD AUDIO to stereo?
I have a Celeron NUC, and a i3 NUC that I use for XBMC and the Celeron works ok... I think the i3 is better though.
post #336 of 576
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Originally Posted by ellisr63 View Post

I have a Celeron NUC, and a i3 NUC that I use for XBMC and the Celeron works ok... I think the i3 is better though.
Can it do Youtube and Netflix stutter free?
post #337 of 576
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Originally Posted by gonzo90017 View Post

Can it do Youtube and Netflix stutter free?
I haven't tried with the Celeron... But the i3 does Youtube and Amazon stutter free with win 7. I would think that with Openelec XBMC it would run flawless too.
post #338 of 576
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Originally Posted by ellisr63 View Post

I have a Celeron NUC, and a i3 NUC that I use for XBMC and the Celeron works ok... I think the i3 is better though.

Can you elaborate about what you mean that the celery works ok? Do it stutter with high bitrate BD movies? Has issues down mixing audio?
post #339 of 576
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Can you elaborate about what you mean that the celery works ok? Do it stutter with high bitrate BD movies? Has issues down mixing audio?
The Celeron works but I have noticed it stutters once in a while when watching a 1080p movie... Not all the time but just once in a while.
post #340 of 576
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Originally Posted by ellisr63 View Post

The Celeron works but I have noticed it stutters once in a while when watching a 1080p movie... Not all the time but just once in a while.
Must be a Windows thing. (More CPU power, lots of memory, and fast SSD drives never hurts with Windows, IMHO.)

FWIW, the Celeron works great with OpenELEC (XBMC) and 1080p. Smooth as silk and CPU usage remains very low (6%-15%) during playback as the GPU is doing the primary decoding of the video stream.
post #341 of 576
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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Must be a Windows thing. (More CPU power, lots of memory, and fast SSD drives never hurts with Windows, IMHO.)

FWIW, the Celeron works great with OpenELEC (XBMC) and 1080p. Smooth as silk and CPU usage remains very low (6%-15%) during playback as the GPU is doing the primary decoding of the video stream.

I am running OpenElec on the Celeron... I am running less memory though as I recall though.
post #342 of 576
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Originally Posted by ellisr63 View Post

I am running OpenElec on the Celeron... I am running less memory though as I recall though.
FWIW, I have 2x2GB of RAM but OpenELEC also reports ~3GB available and that's with the video memory manually set to 512MB in BIOS (v. 42).

OpenELEC does not need much memory so if you are getting some occasional stuttering with 1080p there's probably something else in the equation (OpenELEC version, BIOS version, network, server, media drive, media format and encoding, OpenELEC settings, etc...) at the root of the issue.
post #343 of 576
new gigabyte brix with haswell on newegg's site.
post #344 of 576
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Originally Posted by space2001 View Post

new gigabyte brix with haswell on newegg's site.

Where? I don't see it. I see the regular i7, i3 none of them as Haswell.
post #345 of 576
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Where? I don't see it. I see the regular i7, i3 none of them as Haswell.

http://www.newegg.com/Mini-Booksize-Barebone-PCs/BrandSubCat/ID-1314-309
post #346 of 576
Wow. Nice catch---they don't show up on a NewEgg search for "Brix."
post #347 of 576
They are kind of expensive. After buying the mSata, RAM and OS it gets up.
post #348 of 576
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

They are kind of expensive. After buying the mSata, RAM and OS it gets up.

Price is inversely related to size in the PC world. Always has been.
post #349 of 576
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

They are kind of expensive. After buying the mSata, RAM and OS it gets up.
Yup. Move up to an i3/i5/i7, more memory, SSD, and OS and it adds up quickly.

FWIW, I just installed tiny (24GB) mSATA drive in my NUC this morning that was <$30 (new) on fleabay. It was designed as a "cache" SSD drive for a Lenovo laptop and while 24GB is useless for most users, and thus the low price, for a dedicated media player with no requirement for local storage it's plenty.
post #350 of 576
Gigabyte ?

Realtek NIC
No IR

NoGo
post #351 of 576
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Originally Posted by pickHD View Post

My NUC temperature is HIGH. I'm running the nuc with 8GB of Corsair ram, Plexor 64GB msata, bios 40, with OpenElec-XBMC. In bios, the temperature gets to 79C and stays there. I removed the board from the case and the temperature stays at 64C. I saw where one poster, tomandbeth, ask what temperature everyone was seeing. I did not see where anyone responded to the question. The fan controller is set to default, Custom, (minimum temp at 71C, minimum duty cycle 40%, duty cycle increment 8)


I can't imagine it is OK to run a computer where the cpu temperature is 174F (79C). Even outside the case the board is borderline at 147F.

Can anyone share their fan controller settings and temperatures. Are my temps acceptable?

Thanks.

Sorry to chime in so late. I have the first gen. core i3 NUC and just recently I started with Openelec. I also see temps well above 75 C. I like to take the mainboard out of the case but how many and which screws need to be removed before the board can be removed. Is there some kind of guide for this? I just can see 2 black screws on each side of the board, are there more?
post #352 of 576
I've been experimenting with dedicated streamers but am coming back to the htpc world. Looking at the brix or nuc. For full ISO bd playback, is the i3 plenty of power or worth it to just get the new i5? Also, I'd assume 4gb of ram will be plenty as well?

I'll be running windows 8.1 with xbmc and powerdvd/tmt as my disc player with anydvd and media served off a synology nas. Will be playing 3d bd full rip ISO as well. It feels like the i3 w/4gb would be plenty but I don't want to underspend and regret it.

Oh and I may also run the box as an iTunes server as well.
post #353 of 576
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

I've been experimenting with dedicated streamers but am coming back to the htpc world. Looking at the brix or nuc. For full ISO bd playback, is the i3 plenty of power or worth it to just get the new i5? Also, I'd assume 4gb of ram will be plenty as well?

I'll be running windows 8.1 with xbmc and powerdvd/tmt as my disc player with anydvd and media served off a synology nas. Will be playing 3d bd full rip ISO as well. It feels like the i3 w/4gb would be plenty but I don't want to underspend and regret it.

Oh and I may also run the box as an iTunes server as well.
Thoughts (in no particular order):

1) The new Haswell NUCs (silver cases, release imminent) have an integrated IR receiver if you plan to use an IR remote. IMHO, a Haswell powered unit (NUC or Brix) is the one to get due to the improved power consumption and GPU video processing performance.

2) Yes, the i3 is plenty for a HTPC since the GPU has hardware decoding. The Haswell i5 NUC does have an upgraded GPU which could be beneficial for light gaming but is overkill for a HTPC otherwise. FWIW, even the current Celeron 847 NUC does fine with 1080p playback using Linux (OpenELEC/XBMC) with CPU usage below 15%....the i3/i5 will help Windows performance by adding hyper-threading and a significant CPU clock boost.

3) If you plan to run Windows, 4GB should be enough but there is never anything wrong with more. An Intel CPU with integrated graphics shares memory with system RAM---so if you assign the GPU 512MB in BIOS, for example, that's memory that is now unavailable to Windows.
post #354 of 576
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Originally Posted by pickHD View Post

My NUC temperature is HIGH. I'm running the nuc with 8GB of Corsair ram, Plexor 64GB msata, bios 40, with OpenElec-XBMC. In bios, the temperature gets to 79C and stays there. I removed the board from the case and the temperature stays at 64C. I saw where one poster, tomandbeth, ask what temperature everyone was seeing. I did not see where anyone responded to the question. The fan controller is set to default, Custom, (minimum temp at 71C, minimum duty cycle 40%, duty cycle increment 8)


I can't imagine it is OK to run a computer where the cpu temperature is 174F (79C). Even outside the case the board is borderline at 147F.

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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post

Sorry to chime in so late. I have the first gen. core i3 NUC and just recently I started with Openelec. I also see temps well above 75 C. I like to take the mainboard out of the case but how many and which screws need to be removed before the board can be removed. Is there some kind of guide for this? I just can see 2 black screws on each side of the board, are there more?
FYI, before you become too concerned, 75C is actually (and amazingly) within the normal envelope for an i3. I'm just going from memory but I believe the redline is 105C where the CPU will automatically throttle.
post #355 of 576
Does the nuc ir driver allow you to configure buttons per application?

When I was htpc building years ago I recall using imon software to set key bindings per app. So the same buttons on one remote could be used to properly control different apps. I'll be using a control 4 remote universally and need to make sure I can properly control either mediabrowser3/xbmc and powerdvd/tmt as they have different bindings.

I was looking at maybe using the Flirc to achieve a general remote to keyboard mapping and just change the xbmc key bindings to match the pdvd/tmt ones.
post #356 of 576
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Does the nuc ir driver allow you to configure buttons per application?
That's a great question.

If in doubt, Flirc is always a great option for exact keyboard mapping.
post #357 of 576
If I have the celeron nuc, should I use the intel version of openelec, or the generic version?
post #358 of 576
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Originally Posted by sievers View Post

If I have the celeron nuc, should I use the intel version of openelec, or the generic version?
Intel x64
post #359 of 576
For the latest version of Openelec you use the generic version with the Celeron.

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Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

[quote name="sievers" url="/t/1460922/assassins-intel-nuc-review/330#post_23827639"]If I have the celeron nuc, should I use the intel version of openelec, or the generic version?[/quote]Intel x64
The NUC only support x86.

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