Sony PS4 Will Support 4K Movie Downloads - Page 6

Originally Posted by imagic 

The TV you describe is too small for home theater, shame on whoever sold it those imaginary people. 4K movies and the TVs that can display them are home-theater oriented. Larger TV, shorter viewing distance. Besides, did any manufacturer announce a 45" 4K TV? No.

Originally Posted by sage11x 

At the end of the day 4k will matter much less than even bluray. TVs sizes are sort of limited to the 60-70" sizes for the time being as the logistics of fitting anything bigger in your door will limit any growth until a flexible display is invented-- sure 4k looks good but at these sizes 1080p is still pretty viable.

Originally Posted by Toymachyne 

The reason I welcome 4k screen technology is not for watching movies as much as it is the fact I get a 70" computer screen and crisp clear text at any distance from the screen. Anyone else excited about this? I know I can't be the only one.

Originally Posted by TyrantII 

Stop being not so bright and give sonu cs a call. They should be able to switch it to your new unit manually.

Originally Posted by JStockholm 

I disagree with most of you. I think Sony is on the right track here!

First, they actually are doing something positive and pro-active for the development and distribution of 4K content. Who else does that?

Second, I am convinced that downloading/streaming content is the future. In fact, personally I own very little physical media. Since years I have been legally streaming (and paying for) music via Spotify. I also stream (and pay for) TV series, I have used both Netflix and similar Swedish services.

For movies where my quality demands are higher, I typically rent new and interesting blu-rays and rip them loss-free to my NAS (ripping is legal in Sweden, for personal use if you have paid for the rent) for later viewing. The NAS has RAID and multiple drives so I risk no loss of information. I keep a 'library' of 50-100 ripped blu-rays until I have watched them and will delete to free up space for other films. OK, this method does require some planning ahead, but this is for me part of the fun -- to keep an eye open for interesting titles which I will put in my library for viewing during the upcoming months. And if my wife really needs to instantly watch something particular on a Friday night, we can always stream via Netflix or iTunes, with slightly lower quality.

So, personally I see no problem waiting a few days for a huge 4K title to be downloaded. But then in Sweden, ISPs typically don't limit bandwidth and/or usage. But I would assume that also in the US, enthusiasts do have the possibility of paying a little premium to get unlimited monthly broadband traffic?

Originally Posted by img eL 

I don't know about a 70" computer monitor Reading on a 4k display will be a lot smoother & easier on the eyes. I'm looking forward to price drops on 4k monitors like this one http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Ultra-HD-IGZO-CES-2013-PN-K321-multi-touch,20734.html

Originally Posted by comfynumb 

You may be right. From a noted online medical site. 20-30% of the population have 20/20 vision or better. And approx 50% of the population is near sighted. Not 50% of the 20%, 50% total. It seems that many people that need glasses don't get them. So what is there vision? .......

Originally Posted by Phrehdd 

So lets see we have Blu Ray which could be a faithful transfer, a crap transfer or possibly an optimized transfer and the buyer will have no idea until he/she gets the disc other than perhaps reading reviews on line and waiting awhile after the disc is release. Then we have the famous double dipping of "theater release" followed later by extended release. For streaming, we get various quality of 1080p and most are not as good as typical Blu ray discs. The PS3 by Sony's choice wont play many formats of media but concentrate on making one go for what they find profitable.

Sorry - I wont go for the 4k stuff until these greedy studios and such put some level of quality in their discs and of course a way to stream reasonably. To me, this is just more of the same advancement of how to get into our wallets with absolutely no quality control. When I have a good Blu Ray played on my 65" plasma, it is a thing of beauty. I don't need a crappy 4k transfer to disc or stream and have to start over again with a new screen and a way to play it.

Originally Posted by Phrehdd 

So lets see we have Blu Ray which could be a faithful transfer, a crap transfer or possibly an optimized transfer and the buyer will have no idea until he/she gets the disc other than perhaps reading reviews on line and waiting awhile after the disc is release. Then we have the famous double dipping of "theater release" followed later by extended release. For streaming, we get various quality of 1080p and most are not as good as typical Blu ray discs. The PS3 by Sony's choice wont play many formats of media but concentrate on making one go for what they find profitable.

Sorry - I wont go for the 4k stuff until these greedy studios and such put some level of quality in their discs and of course a way to stream reasonably. To me, this is just more of the same advancement of how to get into our wallets with absolutely no quality control. When I have a good Blu Ray played on my 65" plasma, it is a thing of beauty. I don't need a crappy 4k transfer to disc or stream and have to start over again with a new screen and a way to play it.

Originally Posted by catonic 

Sorry img eL, that screen size is WAY too small for anyone to get any benefit at all from 4k content, its science don't you know.
Its all got to do with relative eye angles etc etc etc...hard scientific fact and whats more there are actually real charts which prove it !!!

Wait a minute, I forgot something....here it is:
OK, it seems that maybe some people just might be short sighted, in more ways than one.
Now that that has been sorted out you can go ahead and buy such a small 4k screen with complete confidence and peace of mind, IMHO anyway.

Originally Posted by img eL 

You can fit a retractable 120" projector screen & a Home 4K projector thru a doorway quite easily

Originally Posted by JStockholm 

I disagree with most of you. I think Sony is on the right track here!

First, they actually are doing something positive and pro-active for the development and distribution of 4K content. Who else does that?

Second, I am convinced that downloading/streaming content is the future. In fact, personally I own very little physical media. Since years I have been legally streaming (and paying for) music via Spotify. I also stream (and pay for) TV series, I have used both Netflix and similar Swedish services.

For movies where my quality demands are higher, I typically rent new and interesting blu-rays and rip them loss-free to my NAS (ripping is legal in Sweden, for personal use if you have paid for the rent) for later viewing. The NAS has RAID and multiple drives so I risk no loss of information. I keep a 'library' of 50-100 ripped blu-rays until I have watched them and will delete to free up space for other films. OK, this method does require some planning ahead, but this is for me part of the fun -- to keep an eye open for interesting titles which I will put in my library for viewing during the upcoming months. And if my wife really needs to instantly watch something particular on a Friday night, we can always stream via Netflix or iTunes, with slightly lower quality.

So, personally I see no problem waiting a few days for a huge 4K title to be downloaded. But then in Sweden, ISPs typically don't limit bandwidth and/or usage. But I would assume that also in the US, enthusiasts do have the possibility of paying a little premium to get unlimited monthly broadband traffic?

Originally Posted by pottscb 

Ha! Just for grins I called AT&T corporate accounts...I can get a T1 business port for $1100/mo., 100MB download with no caps...unfortunately, it comes with a two year agreement. Does Westinghouse have internet as well?

And for those of you saying 4K displays came down to $2000 in months, the first Sony 4K display was at Cedia 2 years ago! (but agreed, we're getting better) Wake me when the first good 4K projector gets below $4K.

Originally Posted by Notsobright 

my first ps3 died on me couple of months ago. i had purchased several movies from the PS store. now with my new ps3 i have to repurchase all of them because movies, unlike games are a 1 time download only. and 1 of the movies i bought earlier no longer shows up on the PS store. no thanks SONY ill stick with the disc until you clean up your own mess.

Originally Posted by Notsobright 

SONY promises all the downloadable disc-free media but their download speeds are very slow. anyone who uses the PS store knows what im talking about. they havent made any improvement to it since the ps3 came out and they promise 4k movie downloads.. cmon

ohh and you tyrant. i dont appreciate being made fun of. you the one who cant even spell "SONY" correct. its a 4 letter word lad

Originally Posted by jaygax 

here's another problem i'll add. what about the hard drive capacity of the PS4 considering the 100gb downloadable movie? 1tb or 2tb? that's gonna be way too high for an ordinary teenager, or 30+ager gamer like me. =)

Originally Posted by VinnyS 

So far, 4K isn't looking good at all and here's why. I had announced on another thread a 4K UHD display for $2K and not much interest in purchasing that display came up because the manufacturer is less known. So know one wants to spend $2K on a cheap 4K UHD display but most can't afford a $12K+ UHD display. Too cheap isn't good enough and too expensive is unaffordable. And now 100gb downloads.

Here in Canada, I'm already paying alot for high speed with a 120gb download, the highest plan is 200gb download. I don't see how ISP's will increase their plans and lower their prices in the next year. I think manufacturers don't seem to know how to get the most consumers on board.

I agree that downloads is the future even though I am a MAJOR physical media type of guy, but infrastructure simply isn't there yet and most consumers will not have a UHD displays. I hope Coolscan (above) is right that H.265 will bring the file size down to help with download time and file size. I just think manufacturers are going about it the wrong way.

Originally Posted by Toymachyne 

I can totally agree with some of you gentlemen regarding video clarity of 4k being a little exaggerated vs 1080p for movie watching.

The reason I welcome 4k screen technology is not for watching movies as much as it is the fact I get a 70" computer screen and crisp clear text at any distance from the screen. Anyone else excited about this? I know I can't be the only one.

Originally Posted by jaygax 

what i meant by high is the price for a 1 to 2tb hard drive on a PS4. consoles on the market now doesn't even have a terabyte of hard drive space.

talking about 9-10 movies, that's really LOW! hehehe.

but i think what sony's doing is future proofing. IMO, i'll wait 'til 20 to 50 terrabytes of hard drives will become available.

Originally Posted by jaygax 

what i meant by high is the price for a 1 to 2tb hard drive on a PS4. consoles on the market now doesn't even have a terabyte of hard drive space.

talking about 9-10 movies, that's really LOW! hehehe.

but i think what sony's doing is future proofing. IMO, i'll wait 'til 20 to 50 terrabytes of hard drives will become available.

Originally Posted by sage11x 

Ha! Forget the size and logistics issues of downloading and storing such massive files-- the real issue is why anyone would CARE. The reason bluray never caught fire the way DVD did is the fact that bluray offered very little more than DVD besides quality-- and people aren't motivated by quality.

Never mind that this ignores the most popular and emerging trends in digital delivery: streaming and cloud storage. Downloading and storing massive libraries of files and data locally is as much a fixture of the past as stacking bookshelves full of discs-- and the past is a place Sony seems increasingly and alarmingly stuck in. Netflix and similar services have shown the advantages of the 'cloud': for all the advantages that a Blu-ray Disc has in quality over streaming it can't come close to replicating the breadth, selection and ease of use/convenience of a Netflix subscription-- and Netflix's quality is getting better everyday.

At the end of the day 4k will matter much less than even bluray. TVs sizes are sort of limited to the 60-70" sizes for the time being as the logistics of fitting anything bigger in your door will limit any growth until a flexible display is invented-- sure 4k looks good but at these sizes 1080p is still pretty viable.

Originally Posted by TyrantII 

Sorry bud, fat fingers and a mobile phone touchpad dont play nice. That said, take a joke and the advice. Sony can get your previously bought digital content on a new PS3. They just force people to do it manually, prob to keep ppl from simply whoring out a group account. So no, you do not have to repurchase them.

Im sure thats how it had to be with both the outside studios and sony pictures ( in relation to owning dlc)