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post #1 of 9
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Hello everyone one, I need help to install led 5050 type strip lighting into my ceiling .. I've purchase about 8 packs of 5 meters, these come with a 44 button ir remote and a 12 volt power suppyly.. I need to cover a ceiling the us 38' L to 18 W' .. I read you can only use 1 - 5M at a time, can I connect these into each other creating 1 strand.. I would like to get these installed asap..but how do I power these? Does any body have any suggestion or answers? If so can you provide some links on how I can obtain power supply? Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 9
You home run each strip back to the power supply. You need to purchase some 4-conductor cable to do that if they are RGB.

You can't feed through each strip because the traces on the strip won't handle all of that current.

Check your specs on the power supply; I doubt a single supply could power all of those strips, especially the type that has the remote.

The strips have a current rating (amps) per meter which varies depending on how many LEDs per meter the strip is.

Multiply the current per meter by 40, and you know the total current you need. Then find a 12v power supply exceeding that current.

Tim
post #3 of 9
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Thanks for the quick reply Mr Tim, It's a 5050 weatherproof strips, 5 meters or 16.4 feet each.. and yes they are RGB 60 leds per meter.. Can you please post a link for the 4 conductor wire I need and how would I wire this set-up, according to your post I would need a 240 watts? Where can I get that type of psu? sorry for the n00b questions.. Links on install and other items I would need would be very helpful, please.. Thanks in advance.
post #4 of 9
You can use 4-conductor thermostat cable. Ideally any cable rated CL2 or CL3 will work. Probably 18ga, depending on how long your runs are.

240W doesn't sound like a lot.. except in this situation (12V).. that's 20 amps.

I like Jameco for power supplies.. look at Meanwell AC-DC transformers. You would be looking for something like this. You may need other features in a power supply, but that one will probably work for you.

Tim
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
Mr.Tim, So lets say I installed a max of 108 feet - about 6 units = 60 led's per meter 3,600 led's . 36 meters X 40 = 1440 amps, Sorry mis-calculated earlier.. does this sound right.. According to what I read, you can run max of 3 led stripes at a time? So I would need 720 A each for 2 runs?
post #6 of 9
Each 5 meter length is -4- 6 amps at 12 volts. To get 108 feet you would need just about 6.5 runs at 16.4 feet each. So that is a total of -4- 6 amps * 6.5 = -26- 39 amps.

How I would approach this (and how I did this in my room) would be to split your 6.5 runs into three different sections. Each of these three sections would be powered by a separate power supply and controller.

Power supply:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Amp-12-Volt-Ac-Power-Adapter-with-3-Prong-Plug-with-5-Mm-Dc-Output-Jack-/390346437395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae275f313

Controller:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/44-Key-IR-Remote-Controller-For-RGB-3528-5050-LED-Light-Strip-Two-outputs-2con-/111001727232?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&hash=item19d837f100

The controller that I linked to has two outputs so that you can run thermostat wire as Tim mentioned to the beginning of each run.

If you can find a more powerful power supply (say one that provides 12 amps) then you could do this with two sections instead of three. In that case you could use a controller such as this to handle more than two outputs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/44-Key-IR-Remote-Control-Controller-For-5050-RGB-LED-Light-Strip-Five-outputs-/160788477117?pt=US_Lighting_Parts_and_Accessories&hash=item256fbd74bd

I found these links quickly, so you may be able to find cheaper prices with a little digging.
Edited by aaustin - 3/1/13 at 1:26pm
post #7 of 9
You also have to watch what those RGB controllers are rated for; the one linked says 2A (per color).

Tim
post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by Mr.Tim View Post

You also have to watch what those RGB controllers are rated for; the one linked says 2A (per color).

Tim

Thanks Tim. I missed that.

Dr. Zaus,

I must correct my previous post. Your LED strips have a load of 6 amps per 5 meters, not 4 amps. So the total amount of current is 6.5 * 6 amps = 39 amps.
post #9 of 9
I'm the same boat as DrZaus . So I'm looking at about 34 feet of LED strip. If I go with the PSU AAustin suggests and controller that should surfice.
The hardest thing I've been stumoed to find is a programable dimmer switch that will mimmick Sunrise and Sunset on a timer that I can set in a wall plate.
Is this possible on a budget or am I just looking for a needle in a hay stack?

Also I've been hard pressed to find a How to guide anywhere on how to wire this system up to the home electrical.

Any info would be great. Thanks for your time =)
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