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post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
Summary:
need purchase advice for

1: All purpose use speakers for a 5.1 setup(can add sub later if budget is used on the 5) $1k-$1.4k or less is the budget

2: it's in a small space and will be used for music, moves and computer games.

2: small size is needed, 12" deep or less, but prefer bookshelves to sats that require a sub(this is about being able to drop out the bass boom late nights without loosing a lot of the overall sound, my current setup has a decent sound for what it is but when i kill the sub at night it's all just tiny sounding)

3: no floor standing, floor stands or in-wall can be used it's either wall hung, or going on a wall mounted shelf(except for a sub of course but this too needs to not be overly large).


I am looking to replace my current computer speaker setup with real speakers.
I am ok on the AMP info what i really need is speaker advice.

The computer is the entertainment center of my house. It's where we watch "t.v." and movies, listen to music, and my primary hobby playing games.

This is in a very small space. A rectangle room(about 14x8) part of which is my wife's "office" the other part is my "office" / living room for movie watching(couch against wall behind my desk chair, about 8' wide from long wall to long wall). So maybe an 8x8 or so space for where the speakers are setup.

There is no space for anything floor standing, everything needs to be wall mountable(but not in wall this is a rental). Or at least something i could shelf mount on the wall if not a wall mountable speaker by build.

I have found most cube systems(satellites + a sub) to not really be the kind of sound i like for music most times(but i am by no means an audiophile/aficionado).
A sat. setup is also a bit on the outs for me because on weekend late nights i have to kill the sub(duplex, my floor is another's ceiling), and when u have no sub to go with the sats it's just tiny squeaky sounds left to hear. So i would like a more well rounded speaker for this particular situation.

I listen to almost all kinds of music jazz, techno, hiphop , classical, and guitarrock. There is little in musical forms my ears will refuse.


My budget is 1k-1.4k but keeping it at or under 1k would be preferred. And i tend to be a bang/buck kind of guy over focusing on the top of the line whatever.

I am currently looking at these, but am open to suggestions.

Klipsch Reference 5.0 Surround Sound Speaker Package

Klipsch RB-51II Home Theater Bundle-free BIC Acoustech Pl-200

Boston Acoustics CS2310C Classic Series 5.1
(most reviews i can find on these indicate no)


The Polk A3s at 14"(deep) are a little too big really for the space I have, 10" deep(+/-2") or smaller is more a correct size fit for the space i have to use.


I would be fine with getting a nice set of bookshelves that sound good enough on their own now, and adding a sub later to fill out the sound, if it means getting a set i would use for many years to come and maybe even in a bigger space if we ever move.

I'm also fine with piecing a set together instead of buying a preconfigured set, if it means getting overall higher quality components as long as the budget is met.

And on the frills side i do tend to prefer a natural wood look to black and white boxes. Which is one reason i was drawn to the polks to start with before I found them to be a little too big for the space i have. But i've got enough restrictions already so this is one i'll live with whatever.


If you have any advice or other suggestions for this purchase I am most thankful for your time.
Edited by FullFrontalYeti - 3/1/13 at 12:57pm
post #2 of 8
Thread Starter 
So too small time? Am i too low brow with all that computer game audio stuff or just too tiny a room? Not spending enough money to be interesting?
I had been under the impression this was a place where people who like to talk about speakers and dispense speaker knowledge and advice came, should i be posting this at some other forum?

there is a pretty big price gap on the two systems i'm currently looking at($1.4k or $900) so my concerns are about the cheaper set is not worth it for that price and get something else different entirely, or that the more expensive set is not that much better than the cheaper set for the money so get the cheaper set instead. Or even that the 1.4 k set is head and shoulders above the other set and easily as good as anything else you could get for the price so go for it.

Anyone having first hand exp. with one or the other or both would be nice to hear what you think of them.
Or if there is something else i should be looking at for that price range.

Thanks again if anyone has any input on this.
post #3 of 8
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Originally Posted by FullFrontalYeti View Post

So too small time?

Yes. Too "little" time. It's only been around 2 hours since you first posted. Read some other threads with budgets similar to yours while you wait. Patience smile.gif

A lot of speakers are rear-ported and need a few inches room to breathe in the back. Keep that in mind when considering mounting depth/room that you have. Otherwise, look at sealed speakers. For instance, check out NHT.

There is no reason to match your sub with the same speaker brand. Get the best sub you can for your budget. Check out the AVS subwoofer forum.
post #4 of 8
I suggest that you look at the NHT Classic 3 speakers; they are excellent and not too big. They are also sealed acoustic-suspension speakers, which makes placement much less of an issue.

A pair will cost you $800.

You didn't really say, but apparently you have an amplifier or receiver that you will use.

The Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 is another good possibility, and they are only around $450.

Stereophile has done reviews on both of them that you can check out on their website.
post #5 of 8
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Originally Posted by FullFrontalYeti View Post

So too small time? Am i too low brow with all that computer game audio stuff or just too tiny a room? Not spending enough money to be interesting?
I had been under the impression this was a place where people who like to talk about speakers and dispense speaker knowledge and advice came,

This is such a place, but the rest of us have other things to do during the day, you know.
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should i be posting this at some other forum?

Go right ahead if you want more input, but ask politely--it doesn't cost you a thing, and neither does our advice, for that matter.
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there is a pretty big price gap on the two systems i'm currently looking at($1.4k or $900) so my concerns are about the cheaper set is not worth it for that price and get something else different entirely, or that the more expensive set is not that much better than the cheaper set for the money so get the cheaper set instead. Or even that the 1.4 k set is head and shoulders above the other set and easily as good as anything else you could get for the price so go for it.

It depends on many factors--some speakers are a better value than others, while some may be slightly better in certain ways that certain people would gladly pay for while others wouldn't even notice. At the price ranges you've mentioned, I think that in many cases we'd be talking about slight, subtle differences, for the most part.
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Anyone having first hand exp. with one or the other or both would be nice to hear what you think of them.
Or if there is something else i should be looking at for that price range.

Klipsch home speakers in general and the Polk RTi series are definitely a matter of personal taste--some people like them a lot, and there is nothing wrong with that, but a lot of other people find them kind of irritating.

The speaker that I'm most familiar with is the one that I'm currently using in my main system, of course, and that would be the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SE. It's a real good value, being accurate and detailed enough to satisfy most audiophiles, as well as clean-sounding (low distortion for its class and articulate). It sounds good both at low and high volumes, both near and far, and for any type of material (movies, music of all kinds, games, etc.). Its bass does not extend deeper than comparable bookshelf speakers, but it is very clean and tight. At 10" deep, it just fits your requirements with a couple of inches to spare for the rear ports (should be all they need). I use five of them, which costs $872 (shipping included), leaving enough in your budget for a good subwoofer. You could use its smaller cousin for your surrounds instead while saving a few bucks. Both of these speakers are wall-mountable.

The other recommendations so far are also very good ones.
post #6 of 8
hi Full, and welcome to AVS

Take a look at the Hybrid 2 package from HSU Research... the full 5.1 system comes in right about $1456 shipped , but includes a very capable subwoofer. you can find it here:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hybrid2pkg.html

those bookshelf speakers have an 8" x 8" footprint (15" tall) and sound great, IMO. Do some research... I had settled on them or the Ascends listed above, and I'm sure I would've been happy with either, but already had a HSU sub, and was very impressed by it. Their speakers didn't disappoint, either. Very clean sound, and not fatiguing at all. They do offer a 30 day in home trial. (return shipping not included)

of course, this is IMO, YMMV
Joseph
post #7 of 8
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Originally Posted by wlhungdude View Post

hi Full, and welcome to AVS

Take a look at the Hybrid 2 package from HSU Research... the full 5.1 system comes in right about $1456 shipped , but includes a very capable subwoofer. you can find it here:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hybrid2pkg.html

those bookshelf speakers have an 8" x 8" footprint (15" tall) and sound great, IMO. Do some research... I had settled on them or the Ascends listed above, and I'm sure I would've been happy with either, but already had a HSU sub, and was very impressed by it. Their speakers didn't disappoint, either. Very clean sound, and not fatiguing at all. They do offer a 30 day in home trial. (return shipping not included)

of course, this is IMO, YMMV
Joseph

+1, stretch your budget to get that Hsu VTF2 sub, it is a beast. Use these Videosecu wall mounts to mount the speakers, they use clamps so you don't have to drill holes into the speakers. Get those mounts while the price is so good, I think they will go up in price pretty soon.
post #8 of 8
Cambridge audio S30's all the way around.
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