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I've had many Yamaha AVR's and never a major issue,
Top Notch quality and dependability in my experience.
My current is a 4 y/o RX-V3900 that's never even had a firmware update.
Most of my AVR's (probably 5 or 6 in the past 20 years, all Yamaha's) were retired in perfect working condition,
Only my needs for new features, more inputs/outputs kept growing that had them see an early retirement.
LOL!! Yes, that is definitely true. They all seem to give trouble one way or another - modern AVRs are very complex computers built down to a price usually, so they will have a fair old chance to go wrong one way or another. In that sense, the simplest is likely to be more reliable I guess. The old stereo receivers never went wrong did they? I had a Yamaha for 25 years that never gave me a moment's trouble. I have had my current two channel receiver for 20 years, again with no trouble. But they are very simple devices compared with a modern AVR.
FWIW, I have had 4 Onkyos and had no trouble at all with any of them, knock on wood.
I think the only answer you are likely to get is like the one I gave you above. If you read the threads for the various makes and models, you'll see they all have their issues and problems. I think what really matters is how the manufacturer supports you when things go wrong - that is probably more relevant than asking if the things go wrong.
Yes - good points Feri. I have run two 4 inch computer fans on top of my Onkyo AVR and more recently my Onkyo 5509 prepro to provide additional cooling, Excessive heat, as you say, is the enemy of electronics and the fans ensure my units do not get hotter than I would like them to.
Can't disagree with you there - but when you find the make that has "no need for service and support because the thing is a rock of reliability", be sure to let me know!! ;)
Do you really believe those anecdotes class as evidence? What I want to see is some objective evidence to support your statement. An example of objective evidence would be number of units sold over a given period vs percentage of warranty claims over a given period. Then we could compare the statistics and see which units required repairs most, as a percentage of sales. Anecdotes like yours mean nothing at all unfortunately.
Exactly. So the question us pointless. All that is going to be offered is anecdotal 'evidence' which means nothing, as we have already seen. One poster says "It's Yamaha, without doubt". Then I could say, with equal validity in the absence of evidence, "It's Denon, without doubt". Reality is, nobody knows. Which makes Feri's answer the only one that has a degree of certainty: it's the one you don't buy.
Yamaha sales are minuscule though compared with Denon and Onkyo, so again, the anecdotal 'evidence' means very little.
Agreed about being able to turn VP off totally.
