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post #3931 of 6832
FWIW I get all the. 1 channels in my area with a pair of rabbit ears.
post #3932 of 6832
I watched some football in HD this weekend, and it looks so damn good on this TV. eek.gif No blur whatsoever.
post #3933 of 6832
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Originally Posted by mcorrie1121 View Post

Try going to MENU -> SETUP -> ANTENNA/CABLE SETUP -> MANUAL PROGRAM, going to those channels, and choosing "yes" under "Add."

You can also try AUTO PROGRAM to scan for available channels, although I ended up just getting a lot of crap (I have the same deal as you, except I don't pay for cable. I don't think they can block the basic channels).

Manual program doesn't list 2-1, 5-1, and 7-1 as available. frown.gif They are definitely not blocking the channels - it works on my old TV.
post #3934 of 6832
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Originally Posted by kolosok17 View Post

Manual program doesn't list 2-1, 5-1, and 7-1 as available. frown.gif They are definitely not blocking the channels - it works on my old TV.
Did you use cable or air under the tv settings when you set it up?
post #3935 of 6832
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Did you use cable or air when you set it up?

Cable. Other channels, such as 11-1 are listed and work just fine.
post #3936 of 6832
I dont know. I would call the cable company if you cant resolve it by am. If you try an antenna then you will know if its the tv tuner or the cable company.
post #3937 of 6832
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I dont know. I would call the cable company if you cant resolve it by am. If you try an antenna then you will know if its the tv tuner or the cable company.

Ok, will do, thanks for the help!
post #3938 of 6832
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Originally Posted by braveblade View Post

Do you have the vertical bar as showed in the pic I attached above on your s64?
No sir...to answer my own concern I played like 3 more BD movies and didnt see what I saw with the 40 year old Virgin. I'm guessi it's just a bad transfer for that movie
post #3939 of 6832
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Originally Posted by mcorrie1121 View Post

I watched some football in HD this weekend, and it looks so damn good on this TV. eek.gif No blur whatsoever.
I have some blur but I think it's cause the panel is not even 10 hours in so I think it's just some phosphor lag if i remember correctly my KURO did this for a while. But your talking a 2000$ plus plasma compared to 600$. For the price this TV performs exactly as it should but honestly I could have bought a 600$ led and this TV blows it out of the water beats up throws it back into the water pulls it out and beats it
Up again. Plasma tech is awesome just sad that its going bye bye
post #3940 of 6832
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

The booklet is just a quick start guide, and i think it tells you that the instruction manual is built into the TV.

Also, refer to the first post in this thread.
Thanks randy
post #3941 of 6832
Can someone who has experience with plasma like I have experience with them please tell me if 100 contrary is to high. According to Dnice that's the settings he stated for break in. Is that for the slides or even when reviewing normal content
post #3942 of 6832
Not gonna lie this TV makes me want to get the vt60 for some extra sietting but justifying 2K more is very hard to do.
post #3943 of 6832
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

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I have some blur but I think it's cause the panel is not even 10 hours in so I think it's just some phosphor lag if i remember correctly my KURO did this for a while. But your talking a 2000$ plus plasma compared to 600$. For the price this TV performs exactly as it should but honestly I could have bought a 600$ led and this TV blows it out of the water beats up throws it back into the water pulls it out and beats it
Up again. Plasma tech is awesome just sad that its going bye bye

Wait ! You have a Kuro ? No way

Oh yea that's right, you've mentioned it in each one of the last 40+ pages of this thread.
post #3944 of 6832
You are so right. I suggest taking it back and purchasing a 65"ZT. No more wondering about how good it should be.
post #3945 of 6832
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

Can someone who has experience with plasma like I have experience with them please tell me if 100 contrary is to high. According to Dnice that's the settings he stated for break in. Is that for the slides or even when reviewing normal content
When viewing normal content in the first 100 hours keep contrast below 80 or so.
post #3946 of 6832
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

When viewing normal content in the first 100 hours keep contrast below 80 or so.

Not that I'm a TV calibrator or anything, but I believe you want to stay around 80-85. That's where I've had my settings for contrast and I think that's sufficient.
post #3947 of 6832
So after 240+ hours of running slides, I decided to finally try out my 65" S64. So far, I'm a little worried. Line bleed is rough at best, the buzzing is certainly audible at 85 contrast (which may not be bright enough for daylight), and colors looked washed out with Fairchild's settings (basic, without the color/white/pro settings) - I found the "Home Theater" settings to be a bit more pleasing if perhaps a bit too blue.

Admittedly the content I used wasn't the best to test, more just what I had and wanted to watch (720p TV capture of Breaking Bad). So obviously I'll have to try some more content. But I keep comparing to the VT25, and the same content looked better on the THX mode VT25. Not to mention that TV has very minimal buzzing and very little line bleed. I know the VT25 is a top-tier model, but it's also from 2010. It's really disappointing to see that three years later, whatever they did to handle line bleed hasn't made its way to their other panels.
post #3948 of 6832
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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985 View Post

Not gonna lie this TV makes me want to get the vt60 for some extra sietting but justifying 2K more is very hard to do.

Jesus Christ man how many times do you need to be warned, stop spamming these boards with repetitive one liners , this isn't Facebook

Moderators or anyone else can someone please provide instructions on how to block certain users ?
post #3949 of 6832
Took the dive and purchased the 65" at Costco. smile.gif

What stands are you guys using?

I picked up a Costco stand from Bay Side Furnishings called the 3-in-1 gaming theater T.V. stand for the 60" and 135 pounds. Wondering if anybody has made this work with a 65" Panasonic Plasma.

Thanks

http://www.baysidefurnishings.com/category/Entertainment/group/Consoles/000224
post #3950 of 6832
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Originally Posted by shenaniganz08 View Post

Jesus Christ man how many times do you need to be warned, stop spamming these boards with repetitive one liners , this isn't Facebook

Moderators or anyone else can someone please provide instructions on how to block certain users ?

I kind of enjoy his incessant waffling, but if you want to block him, I think all you have to do is highlight his name and "block member" is an option.
post #3951 of 6832
I got the below from Best Buy last week. It was on sale for $99. 100% holds the 65" fine and sturdy. Have my Time Warner cable box, Apple TV, Roku and large Def Tech center channel below it in the shelves. Everything worked out great.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/TV+Stand+for+Most+Flat-Panel+TVs+Up+To+47%22/5667885.p;jsessionid=E507BFA746FB69FB6A9CF4A11C26D8C5.bbolsp-app04-113?id=1218679204712&skuId=5667885&st=init tv stand&cp=1&lp=9
post #3952 of 6832
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Originally Posted by DWells55 View Post

So after 240+ hours of running slides, I decided to finally try out my 65" S64. So far, I'm a little worried. Line bleed is rough at best, the buzzing is certainly audible at 85 contrast (which may not be bright enough for daylight), and colors looked washed out with Fairchild's settings (basic, without the color/white/pro settings) - I found the "Home Theater" settings to be a bit more pleasing if perhaps a bit too blue.

Admittedly the content I used wasn't the best to test, more just what I had and wanted to watch (720p TV capture of Breaking Bad). So obviously I'll have to try some more content. But I keep comparing to the VT25, and the same content looked better on the THX mode VT25. Not to mention that TV has very minimal buzzing and very little line bleed. I know the VT25 is a top-tier model, but it's also from 2010. It's really disappointing to see that three years later, whatever they did to handle line bleed hasn't made its way to their other panels.

Fairchild's settings are more or less (panel variance) what they should be, if you want more colour saturation, turn the colour setting up. What ever is more pleasing to your eye.

That said, I would recommend giving it at least a few days. I felt the same way when I first used the settings (you can check my post history, I was attacked for my views) but I am now used to them and am very much enjoying them. I even leave it on warm 2 now.
post #3953 of 6832
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Originally Posted by DWells55 View Post

So after 240+ hours of running slides, I decided to finally try out my 65" S64. So far, I'm a little worried. Line bleed is rough at best, the buzzing is certainly audible at 85 contrast (which may not be bright enough for daylight), and colors looked washed out with Fairchild's settings (basic, without the color/white/pro settings) - I found the "Home Theater" settings to be a bit more pleasing if perhaps a bit too blue.

Line bleeding on this TV has been bugging me too (see previous posts). I just figured it was an issue with all plasmas, no better, no worse on higher-tier sets. Maybe I am wrong. Still, I like the TV despite that nagging flaw.

Concerning daytime viewing, I've watched TV during various times of the day with no issues. I do, however, feel Home Theater is a good default for daytime viewing. It's brighter and doesn't seem displeasing to my eyes in regards to colors and textures. I know D-Nice didn't calibrate his settings on the S60, they were done for the ST60, but I am very happy with them, particularly for lower-light conditions and movies. The picture is dim, but skin tones look very natural. But feel free to tweak the settings on your own. After all, panels vary and you should be happy with the picture. Adjust it to your liking. I considered taking my set back numerous times, but have come to like it a lot.
post #3954 of 6832
Do all Plasma Panels buzz? Have a 60" ST60 and haven't really broken it in according to D Nice's advice. I watched everything from day one and run the pixel flipper an hour daily, although I see no major IR and/or "burn in".
Watch ESPN Sports channel and Football a lot, and probably have approximately 200 hours with not a single problem. TV is quiet as a mouse.

The only annoying thing is that I find the SMART portion and 3D a waste of money, when they work much better on my PS3. Its too complicated to to try and get the Viera Link to play nice with my Yamaha AVR. The sound kicks in and out. I tried the cheaper S60, without 3D, but the panel was too reflective. It was great at looking at my face all day. Another annoying feature is I can't get my harmony, no matter how I program, to start at HDMI 1, after I watch at Component, wihout pressing the HELP button.

I find that Fairchild's settings suits my TV real well. D Nice's is too dark. I use my own calibrations for CINEMA but usually watch with Faichild on CUSTOM.

The ST was probably the best at the price. Very happy with my decision.smile.gif
post #3955 of 6832
I'm in the market for a new TV and I've been waffling quite a bit. Originally I had discounted Plasma completely because I have a kid that likes to play video games and pause netflix for hours on end and my living room is generally very bright with 2 skylights and 4 large picture windows. However, the appeal of good viewing angles, great motion and best blacks is really getting to me. Plus I'm reading everywhere that IR just isn't an issue any more. I'd love the ST60 but the input lag just eliminates it for me. I'm a gamer, my kid is a gamer, it just won't fly.

The S60 is a good option (and GREAT price) but no anti-glare screen except for the Costco version. My two problems with that is they don't have a 60" version (65" is a little high on the price range for me, but I might be able to swing it anyways), it's sold out a lot. Oh and I don't have a membership. It'll cost me $50 more.

Is there any way a s60 60" can work in a brighter room or is the glare just too much to handle? I realize my question is very subjective but I'll take any and all input. It all helps in the decision making.

I will be taking a trip to some stores tonight and see if I can get a feel for the glare in the obviously bright showroom floors. Maybe that'll help.
post #3956 of 6832
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Originally Posted by xenon9887 View Post

Fairchild's settings are more or less (panel variance) what they should be, if you want more colour saturation, turn the colour setting up. What ever is more pleasing to your eye.

That said, I would recommend giving it at least a few days. I felt the same way when I first used the settings (you can check my post history, I was attacked for my views) but I am now used to them and am very much enjoying them. I even leave it on warm 2 now.
Yeah, I'll have to play with it more and with more content. I'm usually all for dimmer settings in the name of color accuracy, but watching that episode of Breaking Bad on the Fairchild settings felt off. Especially when compared to the THX mode on my VT25 which is damn good. I still swear that my old 57" CRT RPTV had the most realistic looking skin tones and picture of any TV I've ever viewed, even if it was at the expense of sharpness and resolution.

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Originally Posted by ToonMasterTim View Post

Line bleeding on this TV has been bugging me too (see previous posts). I just figured it was an issue with all plasmas, no better, no worse on higher-tier sets. Maybe I am wrong. Still, I like the TV despite that nagging flaw.

Concerning daytime viewing, I've watched TV during various times of the day with no issues. I do, however, feel Home Theater is a good default for daytime viewing. It's brighter and doesn't seem displeasing to my eyes in regards to colors and textures. I know D-Nice didn't calibrate his settings on the S60, they were done for the ST60, but I am very happy with them, particularly for lower-light conditions and movies. The picture is dim, but skin tones look very natural. But feel free to tweak the settings on your own. After all, panels vary and you should be happy with the picture. Adjust it to your liking. I considered taking my set back numerous times, but have come to like it a lot.
The line bleeding is definitely my biggest problem so far. It was one of the major factors behind me returning my UT50, and it might even be worse on this set. If I start noticing it during normal content then this behemoth of a set is going to have to go back. Regarding line bleeding be an issue with all plasmas, it is, but the severity apparently varies drastically. It's 100% unnoticeable on my VT25 with normal content and you have to look for it even with content that tends to emphasize line bleed.


Regarding daytime viewing and panel brightness, how high can we safely take these things up to for regular viewing, including letterboxed and gaming content? I'm running 85 at the moment and would like to bump up to 92 or so, but I'm worried about burn-in.
post #3957 of 6832
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Originally Posted by garath View Post

Is there any way a s60 60" can work in a brighter room or is the glare just too much to handle? I realize my question is very subjective but I'll take any and all input. It all helps in the decision making.

First, I would advise you to steer clear of the S60 given you have so many windows and ambient light in your viewing environment. The AR filter on the club version, the S64, as well as the ST60, is going to be make a noticeable difference. Hopefully when you go shopping tonight you can see them for yourself and compare. The difference was clear to me. Without the AR filter you're seeing unfiltered reflections.

Second, while I think that any issues with image retention have been often overstated, I would be somewhat concerned with kids that might leave the game console on pause or other static content on screen for a long period. Most devices will have a auto power off or screen saving feature, and if you can activate those you are probably okay. Otherwise, I would be cautious and lean towards an LED. You don't have to baby the plasma, but I know kids pause games and go outside to play, and mommy or daddy finds the TV four hours later on a paused screen.
post #3958 of 6832
Maybe it is just me, but I still think I am seeing occasional panel brightness adjustment on my S64. I liken it similar to the ambient light adjustment on my old LED that would automatically adjust the panel's brightness in various lighting conditions, or the feature that adjusted panel brightness based on content being displayed on screen. Panasonic seems to call this C.A.T.S. which I have disabled in both areas (input settings and in Eco settings) but I swear I am seeing something. For instance, I was watching the local news and I saw the panel slightly adjust twice while the anchor was talking on screen from the news desk with no graphics in the background and no movement other than typical facial movements. Could there be another setting I am overlooking? Should I maybe just reset things back to the defaults and readjust them?
post #3959 of 6832
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Originally Posted by RexHarrison View Post

Wait ! You have a Kuro ? No way

Oh yea that's right, you've mentioned it in each one of the last 40+ pages of this thread.

Calm down pal I was just making an observation and a comparison. You must have alot of time on your hands if you actually
Counted the amount of posts I made.

And if you see that I'm not spamming but since your to busy counting my "KURO" posts then you wouldn't see I've been asking about contrast and why does DNICE recommend default settings for custom mode which is set by default at 100
Edited by SeLfMaDe111985 - 9/10/13 at 12:16pm
post #3960 of 6832
Do any of you recommend a particular wall mount for this TV? Just wondering if there are any suggestions before I venture out there to find one.
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