Gears of War Judgement

Originally Posted by kevin g. 

I'm there, day one...here's hoping that they don't mess with multiplayer, after they finally got it right with G3...If we end up with a Clusterflock like G2...(ahhh well...I'll still play, but I will bitch the whole time...)

Originally Posted by onlysublime 

it's so funny to read this... because you read GOW threads and there's the G2 camp that hates what was G3 multiplayer.

I'm excited about this title. I am worried about the simplification of the online options. There's no longer a true horde mode. Yes, true horde is very long (50 waves) and takes a lot of time but it's a great time killer with a bunch of friends.

The horde mode got replaced with survival. Which sounds fun but I guess I'll be wary until I try it.

I also hate that the hammerburst was gimped. I love the hammerburst! How do you gimp the hammerburst and still keep the sawed-off shotgun???

In fact, the hammerburst is one of the lesser-used guns so it's sad to weaken a gun that few use.

timeline-wise, it would make sense not to have the modified guns of Gears 3 since the Locusts aren't scattered and aren't modifying weapons. but c'mon! keep the hammerburst as-is.

Originally Posted by onlysublime 

yeah, my point for the hammerburst was why gimp a gun that's not used often and not uber powerful but keep the lethality of dominating guns that everybody uses. there's an inequity there. if the goal of balanced gameplay is to have diversity, you don't strengthen the strong guns and weaken the weak guns.

Originally Posted by ultracat 

Played the beta last night. It was VERY different but once I got used to it I see the potential. It's going to be good

Oh yeah, and the hammerburst sucks LOL.

Originally Posted by americangunner 

I am loving the campaign. Me and a buddy rolled through a little over half of it last night. The way they set it up with smaller sections, it makes it balls out the whole time. Some of the declass missions make it pretty tough, but very rewarding. I played a few matches of the online and don't have any problem with it. I was suprised by the down but not out being removed, but there were several times where I took on two people and killed both, you just have to know how and when to use cover. They knocked this one out of the park in my book.

Originally Posted by americangunner 

I am loving the campaign. Me and a buddy rolled through a little over half of it last night. The way they set it up with smaller sections, it makes it balls out the whole time. Some of the declass missions make it pretty tough, but very rewarding. I played a few matches of the online and don't have any problem with it. I was suprised by the down but not out being removed, but there were several times where I took on two people and killed both, you just have to know how and when to use cover. They knocked this one out of the park in my book.

Originally Posted by kevin g. 

A few issues I have found thusfar:
No downs//executions. (Supposedly, Ececution will be a game-type download early next month) Which does bring out the reasoning for not being able to run with two primary weapons. Who needs an extra gun, when the other player is dead, within a few rounds? Firefights with multiple enemies, now end the way you would expect...your death. The random chance that you may survive long enough to get up from DBNO and take revenge, or hold off long enough for your teammate to get there...is gone.
Sticking with a grenade, is gone as we knew it. The "lob-stick" is annoying. No "wall-tagging"?
Gnasher is still annoying. And still overpowered.

Game modes are OK.
Domination is probably my favorite so far. It's just not KOTH, or ANNEX...the sense of urgency is gone.
FFA, will be fun with a full room of friends.

Haven't campaigned yet.

Maps are ok, with the vertical levels, it adds a different aspect. Just...give me more maps!!! People Can Fly did the same thing with Bulletstorm...minimal maps, short game. No real direction.

I reserve comments on the new weapons...just haven't been able to spend enough time with them.

Additional Weapon and Character skins are a really cool addition, and you unlock some as you progress through your levels, via prize boxes...Not sure if it is random, but one of my boxes brought 400 xp, just before I signed off last night.

I guess, overall, we will have to play more to give it a fair shake. And you have to evolve the game, otherwise...where would we be? (COD, anyone...?) But why People Can Fly would think eliminating signature Gears components, would still make Gears game, is beyond me. Why not add your modes, and game types, weapons, etc...to the standard game? If your new modes are well designed, and you have the confidence that they are what the game needs, they will win out, by player voting at the menu, they will choose what game type they like.

Originally Posted by ultracat 

I basically agree with all of this. Looks like they tweaked some weapon damage since the Beta over the weekend. I too am finding the gnasher to be it's usual self, but it wasn't taht way at all over the weekend in the Beta.

I really like the 3D nature of the maps. I also like that you can actually get longer distance kills with a rifle like hammerburst or lancer. Maps can be a little big for just 5v5. Last night on Gondola I kept running around saying "where is everyone? I haven't seen an enemy in at least 60 seconds!" Haven't tried campaign yet, probably this weekend. I bought the season pass so I'm really looking forward to new maps (the game needs more maps big time!) I like the weapon skins etc but once again (like GOW3) they are waaaaaay too expensive. You can buy all the skins for 4000 pts.......4000 pts just for character and weapon skins???? Waaaaay too much.

Originally Posted by kevin g. 

That's the disappointing part, without DBNO, it's almost more annoying than any of the other iterations. You know, you could bitch about getting dropped from accross the map, with a Gnasher...but at least you weren't DEAD...

I didn't see you could buy ALL of the skins for a price, but I was really surprised that each individual skin was 400 MSP....