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post #31 of 401
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Originally Posted by Erich H View Post

Just so you know, the gloss finish SEOS looks really good with that A&E woofer.

I was also messing around with the gloss models and painted some matte black, then hit them with some satin clear coat just to see how they turned out. They looked great.

You may not believe me when I say this, but I wanted to get the gloss. My wife chose the matte finish. It is so difficult to judge based on pictures so I went with her eyes.

Edit: Not sure if you remember this but I inquired about the gloss red FG SEOS 12's you had. I think that would have been sweet, but she was not on board. LOL
Edited by filtor1 - 3/11/13 at 12:23pm
post #32 of 401
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Another update. The parts I ordered from PE are already here less the back ordered binding posts. Another fine buying experience with PE.

post #33 of 401
Brown Bear, Brown Bear what do I see? I see croosover parts staring at me. biggrin.gif
post #34 of 401
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Brown Bear, Brown Bear what do I see? I see croosover parts staring at me. biggrin.gif

Hahaha! That is my sons favorite book! smile.gif
post #35 of 401
If you change your mind on the matte finish, just let me know.
post #36 of 401
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If you change your mind on the matte finish, just let me know.

It's cool. If I get them installed and don't like them, I will just order a set of the gloss.
post #37 of 401
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No pictures right now but I received the binding posts that were on back order from PE a few days ago and the SEOS 12's and DNA360's today. I am hosting a bbq today so I won't get pics posted till later. Jut wanted to say Thank You to Erich for his efforts and attention to packing. Have a great weekend everyone.

Chris
post #38 of 401
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Caught a break and used the time to grab some pictures.







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Edit: I think it may be time for a tripod. I felt like I was falling over, I guess I was. tongue.gif
Edited by filtor1 - 3/24/13 at 8:30am
post #40 of 401
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Going to try my hand at making a template for the waveguides. I figured, hey why not, I have all the tools already. The only parts I need now are the TD12M's. biggrin.gif
post #41 of 401
Lookin' good, man. You've probably seen it, but Nick did a good write up on techtalk here: Tip: How To Flush Mount Irregular Shape Driver

Layed out your xo yet?
post #42 of 401
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Thanks for the link. I will check it out when I get home. The crossovers are still in the bags. They will be the first thing I work on when I get a chance.
post #43 of 401
I think you will be very happy with these speakers. Looking forward to seeing the finished product. smile.gif
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post #44 of 401
I'd spend the extra few bucks on a template bushing instead of the method in that PE link.

http://www.exquisiteaudio.com/baffle.html
post #45 of 401
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I'd spend the extra few bucks on a template bushing instead of the method in that PE link.

http://www.exquisiteaudio.com/baffle.html

I used this method to flush mount my seos and it worked perfectly on the first try. And I usually screw things up on the first try. biggrin.gif

-Max
post #46 of 401
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I did some prelim digging just to get an idea of how much extra it would cost me to cut my own. I don't know if I would ever use a bushing kit again, although I like to have the option. I found this kit from Rockler: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=10671&site=ROCKLER and it looks like I would be adding another $54 + shipping if I go this route. I have to make the decision on this soon.

Does anyone have any experience with this particular offering from Rockler?
post #47 of 401
It's expensive, but looks like a nice kit. Here's a few more from Amazon and if you're a Prime member you get the wonderful free 2 day shipping on some of them.
post #48 of 401
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It's expensive, but looks like a nice kit. Here's a few more from http://*******.com/c2lbcfe and if you're a Prime member you get the wonderful free 2 day shipping on some of them.


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post #50 of 401
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I got almost the exact results when I searched Amazon too. I only picked the Rockler kit because I recognized the name as one others have associated with a quality product. Another one I was specifically looking at was the Porter-Cable 42000 9-Piece Template Guide Kit. It shows free shipping and is $32.89. I think these will fit the PC router and base I have now too.

Thank you for the suggestions and links Nate, Mike, coctostan, and pgwalsh. I appreciate the guidance.

Chris
post #51 of 401
You get a couple more pieces with the rockler kit.
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post #53 of 401
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I already have the 1/4" spiral upcut bit. I think I will end up just getting the single 3/4" bushing for this project. I can always buy more later if I do anything more.
post #54 of 401
What are the bushings for? I just bought a used Dewalt router and am looking to pick up all the things that I will need to make a pair DIY speakers, but I am confused as to what a bushing is for a router?
post #55 of 401
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What are the bushings for? I just bought a used Dewalt router and am looking to pick up all the things that I will need to make a pair DIY speakers, but I am confused as to what a bushing is for a router?

http://www.woodmagazine.com/woodworking-tips/techniques/routing/understanding-guide-bushings/?page=3

There is a pretty good explanation there. I was going to practice on a scrap piece to make my mistakes before I cut the baffle.
post #56 of 401
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Small update. The AETD12M's made it safe and sound. Outside of the bushings for the router, I have everything I need. Now where did I leave that time? tongue.gif







post #57 of 401
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Originally Posted by Martycool007 View Post

What are the bushings for? I just bought a used Dewalt router and am looking to pick up all the things that I will need to make a pair DIY speakers, but I am confused as to what a bushing is for a router?

The bushing is for cutting the recess for the waveguide, using the method described here:
http://www.exquisiteaudio.com/baffle.html

Here's my SEOS-15 cutout using this technique:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1440924/seos-15-dna-360-ae-td15m-center-channel#post_22756505

-Max
post #58 of 401
You can just purchase a cheap Ryobe router bit kit for around 50 bucks that has a huge assortment of bits; that being one of them.
post #59 of 401
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A small update. I have been attacked by time vampires from all sides. I decided to scratch the idea of buying the bushing kit for my router and ordered three 26" blank baffles from Erich. Keeping my fingers crossed he that he can do the driver countersink and cut outs as well. Next to order some Duratex and find some free time to go grab wood for the cabinets.

After lots of back and forth with Nate and his assistance in modeling some of the options I was looking at, I decided on the following.

Enclosure O.D. 14.5"x 24"x 13.25" = 1.86198cf (Note: 13.25" Depth includes the double .75" baffle).
Less 0.23cf for the AETD12M and SEOS12/DNA360 (Est).
Less 4- 2'x 13"x .75"= 0.04512cf and 4- 2"x 11"x .75"= 0.0382cf Total= 0.08332cf for the strip bracing.
Less 13"x 2"x 14.5"= 0.21817cf slot port.
I am not considering the crossover network although I may add that estimate after it is made for the final enclosure volume.

After displacement I am left with 1.33049cf

This appears to give me an F3 in the 67-68 range. I was keeping in mind John's suggestion, "As a good rule i generally try to tune about 1/2 octave below tuning. This keeps the group delay and vent velocity down. So if crossing at 80hz, tuning would be around 60hz ideally or lower." on the first page

Add $58.15 to my total which is the cost of three 26" baffles. smile.gif

More to come later. Thanks for looking.

Chris
post #60 of 401
Any progress to report? Updates?
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