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post #1021 of 1728
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Originally Posted by 72.9.159.100 View Post

I got it on both the original design 360 as well as the "slim" one.

The launch model 360 draws between 60 and 70 times as much power as as a Roku 3 (and the fan on mine sounded like a Briggs and Stratton lawn mower engine once it warmed up rolleyes.gif).

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post #1022 of 1728
Another reason I stopped using the 360 for streaming. Plus it heated up the living room too much during the summer and this summer since I got the Roku 3 my cooling bill went down drastically! Roku really was a life saver and was an amazing anniversary gift.
post #1023 of 1728
Maybe someone can help me understand something. I have been disappointed in the picture quality when streaming Netflix from my roku 3 through my Denon 2310 avr up to my Pioneer Kuro 5080. I assumed this was caused by a “slow” Windstream dsl @3mbps over wireless. The Roku thinks it’s wired, but its actually plugged into a bridge. The PQ is hit and miss, mostly miss, and I figured I would need to upgrade my dsl to at least 6mbps to see better, more consistent PQ.
Then I bought and hooked up a Chromecast, plugged into the avr and casting from my iPhone, I am seeing a consistently better PQ from Netflix.
This confuses me. Shouldn’t the PQ be similar? Aren’t both devices streaming over my WIFI? Am I missing something in the Roku settings that isn’t optimal? Anyone have a similar setup?
Any suggestions are appreciated.
D
post #1024 of 1728
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Originally Posted by DLDukes View Post

Maybe someone can help me understand something. I have been disappointed in the picture quality when streaming Netflix from my roku 3 through my Denon 2310 avr up to my Pioneer Kuro 5080. I assumed this was caused by a “slow” Windstream dsl @3mbps over wireless. The Roku thinks it’s wired, but its actually plugged into a bridge. The PQ is hit and miss, mostly miss, and I figured I would need to upgrade my dsl to at least 6mbps to see better, more consistent PQ.
Then I bought and hooked up a Chromecast, plugged into the avr and casting from my iPhone, I am seeing a consistently better PQ from Netflix.
This confuses me. Shouldn’t the PQ be similar? Aren’t both devices streaming over my WIFI? Am I missing something in the Roku settings that isn’t optimal? Anyone have a similar setup?
Any suggestions are appreciated.

You typically won't see exactly the same throughput from a wireless connection in two different locations. Even a slightly different location can make a difference in speed. Try playing "Example Short 23.976", a test clip with burned in bit-rate/resolution information on each of its component video encodes and see what the highest bit rate encode you get from each device is. There's also the possibility that they're using different sets of video encodes and therefore getting them from different Netflix servers.
post #1025 of 1728
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Originally Posted by DLDukes View Post

Maybe someone can help me understand something. I have been disappointed in the picture quality when streaming Netflix from my roku 3 through my Denon 2310 avr up to my Pioneer Kuro 5080. I assumed this was caused by a “slow” Windstream dsl @3mbps over wireless. The Roku thinks it’s wired, but its actually plugged into a bridge. The PQ is hit and miss, mostly miss, and I figured I would need to upgrade my dsl to at least 6mbps to see better, more consistent PQ.
Then I bought and hooked up a Chromecast, plugged into the avr and casting from my iPhone, I am seeing a consistently better PQ from Netflix.
This confuses me. Shouldn’t the PQ be similar? Aren’t both devices streaming over my WIFI? Am I missing something in the Roku settings that isn’t optimal? Anyone have a similar setup?
Any suggestions are appreciated.
D

Wireless and slow connection are a double whammy that can change by the minute. Get a speed bump and get wired..
post #1026 of 1728
Thanks for the feedback. I do plan on upgrading my isp plan, and I hope that gets me over the "disappointment" hump. I also watched the Example Short 23.976 from Netflix on both devices and was surprised to see the roku bitrate/resolution was higher than the Chromecast (see results below) which I felt was giving me "better" results. I'll have to run the test a few more times.
Thanks again,
D

roku bitrate: 3000 kbps res: 1280x720 par:1:1
chromecast bitrate: 1750 kbps res: 720x480 par: 32:27
post #1027 of 1728
Just worry about upgrading your speed plan. As long as your WiFi is setup properly it won't make any difference. Whether I use a wired or wireless connection I quickly ramp up to the top SuperHD tier. And it stays there. The streaming speeds that Netflix uses are extremely slow. It's not an issue for a wireless G or N connection. As long as the WiFI network is setup properly. ie. not saturated or congested.
post #1028 of 1728
Yep. Make sure you scan the networks using InSSIDer for win/mac and Amped Wireless Wifi Analytics tool for android>configure your router to use a non-congested channel>set your channel width properly you should be good to go if you got a good router.
post #1029 of 1728
You can have you wi-fi setup up great and a matter of inches or orientation can still make a difference as someone said.

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Even a slightly different location can make a difference in speed.
post #1030 of 1728
I would recommend
1- try running a temporary wired connection to the Roku if that is feasible, to see if you get better performance.
2- try the ROKU wifi connection instead of the bridge. Some bridges suck (not saying yours does)
3- consider powerline ethernet if hardwired is not feasible.
post #1031 of 1728
Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. I will play around with your suggestions and give Windstream a call as well.
D
post #1032 of 1728
If you have the new Roku 2 (2720), Roku 1 or new LT (2700) you should check out M-GO (it will be coming for the Roku 3, 2XS, 2XD, HD (2500) and LT (2400) with the 5.2 firmware update, any day now; they said it'd start to roll out in October but I think that it's still in beta rolleyes.gif). You currently get two free rentals (SD or HD, any price) for signing up.

The service is built into the system menu in 5.2: the main screen lists "My Channels", "Movies", "TV Shows", "News", "Search", "Channel Store" and "Settings", where "Movies" and "TV Shows" get you into the M-GO channel with no channel loading pause. The UI is pretty nicely laid out and fast and stream start was a fairly speedy 6 seconds. I watched Pacific Rim yesterday in crisp 1080p with DD+ 5.1 sound. At least it seemed like 1080p; there's no indicator. EDIT: According to this it was (outstanding) 720p for which they recommend a 3 Mbps connection. Unfortunately there don't seem to be any available closed captions yet rolleyes.gif.

I really need to load some open source firmware with a bandwidth monitor into my new, cheap-o ASUS RT-N16 (my housemate/landlord moved and took his venerable old WRT54G I'd installed Tomato on with him; at least I have ). I'd really like to figure out what the bit rate of M-GO HD video is.
post #1033 of 1728
Hurray! Roku just added the WatchESPN channel! Been waiting for this so I can watch their channels in the bedroom since I don't have a box in there.
post #1034 of 1728
New Netflix UI for Roku 3 & XBox 360, PS3 and select TVs BD players.
post #1035 of 1728
It's not on my PS3 or Xbox 360 yet; I'm hoping that it comes to Roku 3 tomorrow since that's the platform I'm most curious about how well it will run on. It's not confirmed to be coming to Roku 2XS, 2HD, HD, LT, new Roku 1, Roku 2 or new LT as yet (well Netflix's blog entry kind of says that but Roku's blog entry says, "The new Netflix experience will launch worldwide on the Roku 3 starting on November 14th (continuing through the end of the month), and we are exploring the possibility of making it available on additional player models"). The Roku 3 is advertised as having a 5x faster processor; I think that it's about to get a bit of a workout.
post #1036 of 1728
Nice! The new UI looks nice.
post #1037 of 1728
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Nice! The new UI looks nice.
Still don't have it yet
post #1038 of 1728
I meant on the youtube video
post #1039 of 1728
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

Hurray! Roku just added the WatchESPN channel! Been waiting for this so I can watch their channels in the bedroom since I don't have a box in there.
I'm really enjoying it too. Its also great to be able to see ESPN3 content on my TV since it's not available on cable.
post #1040 of 1728
I got the new UI on my TiVo Roamio and PS3 today; no update for Roku 3, though I keep checking. I wrote up my observations about it and posted them here, in another thread.
post #1041 of 1728
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Still don't have it yet

I went to my "Settings" on the Roku 3 and had it do a Check for Update and it didn't find anything? rolleyes.gif
post #1042 of 1728
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Still don't have it yet

I went to my "Settings" on the Roku 3 and had it do a Check for Update and it didn't find anything? rolleyes.gif

Their blog article says:
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The new Netflix experience will launch worldwide on the Roku 3 starting on November 14th (continuing through the end of the month)...

(Emphasis added). They typically roll these out gradually in case some major bug should be revealed once the update is in "the wild". I don't care how much testing you do the huge variety of people in a user base as large as Roku's will do things with it in a fashion which they could not anticipate, uncovering errors that they didn't find. The question is whether any of those errors will be "showstoppers".
post #1043 of 1728
I currently have a Roku 2 XS with a Roku 3 in the mail. Will I need to reinstall all of my channels on the Roku 3 or will they appear once I set it up under my name?
post #1044 of 1728
Your channels will all migrate to all Rokus on your account.
post #1045 of 1728
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Originally Posted by maddog510 View Post

Still don't have it yet

I went to my "Settings" on the Roku 3 and had it do a Check for Update and it didn't find anything? rolleyes.gif

I got the update on my Roku 3 this morning and posted some Roku-3-specific impressions of the new Netflix UI in another thread here.
post #1046 of 1728
Anyone know why the Roku 3 will not display the subtitles for a movie that has some dialogue in Chinese? I tried watching the movie "Only God Forgives" on the TiVo Premiere (via Netflix) and it provided the English subtitles when the dialogue was in Chinese. I then tried the AppleTV and it provided it as well. But when I was watching this same movie with the Roku 3, there were no subtitles provided? Anyone know why?
post #1047 of 1728
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Anyone know why the Roku 3 will not display the subtitles for a movie that has some dialogue in Chinese? I tried watching the movie "Only God Forgives" on the TiVo Premiere (via Netflix) and it provided the English subtitles when the dialogue was in Chinese. I then tried the AppleTV and it provided it as well. But when I was watching this same movie with the Roku 3, there were no subtitles provided? Anyone know why?

Did you go into the audio and subtitle area of the film and click the 5.1 sound and English CC - although this probably sets it for the entire film.

More likely it's just a case of different encodes for different devices.
post #1048 of 1728
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

Hurray! Roku just added the WatchESPN channel! Been waiting for this so I can watch their channels in the bedroom since I don't have a box in there.

Of course it's a no-go for those of us on Directv. Was hoping this would be something new!
post #1049 of 1728
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Of course it's a no-go for those of us on Directv. Was hoping this would be something new!

Yea kinda frustrating. ESPN makes it out to be that it's Directv's fault why we don't have it. It's not, it's ESPN. From what I hear, ESPN refuses to allow addition of WatchTV channels to EXISTING contracts. They will only add them during a renewal on the next NEW contract. So Directv's current ESPN contract doesn't end until late 2014 I think, so don't look for any access to WatchESPN till then.

Luckily my Internet provider(Charter) does allow for me to get ESPN 3 access through WatchESPN, so that does work for me.
post #1050 of 1728
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Did you go into the audio and subtitle area of the film and click the 5.1 sound and English CC - although this probably sets it for the entire film.

More likely it's just a case of different encodes for different devices.

I would do that if I wanted to see subtitles for the entire movie. I just wanted the subtitles to show up when they're speaking in chinese like it did on Netflix on the TiVo and AppleTV.
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