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post #421 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

It's actually better to use the Roku 2 XS Harmony device definition than the one for Roku 3. The Roku 3 definition lacks the "InstReplay" function, though it's on the device's RF remote (none of the IR remotes which come with the other current models has a button for it, though the accessory IR remote does). Note that the Harmony device definition includes codes for one button access to Netflix, Crackle and Pandora.
Thanks for this...........Got it setup last night. Other than the Harmony One choosing the DVD player icon for the Roku, it all went smoothly and the 2 XS code set seems to work just fine.

I noticed that the Roku defaulted to 720p under the setup menu so I went ahead and moved it to 1080p - does anyone know if it upconverts to 1080p or is this just setting the max screen resolution your monitor can handle?

I also wonder how many people with 5.1 systems are using the Roku in stereo mode because the default mode is stereo?

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post #422 of 1724
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Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

I noticed that the Roku defaulted to 720p under the setup menu so I went ahead and moved it to 1080p - does anyone know if it upconverts to 1080p or is this just setting the max screen resolution your monitor can handle?

It upconverts everything to 1080p unless its natively 1080p, like the vast majority of Netflix's HD (the ones marked Super HD in their descriptions; marked just "HD" they're 720p only) and VUDU HDX.
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I also wonder how many people with 5.1 systems are using the Roku in stereo mode because the default mode is stereo?

Who knows? No doubt some of them. If you're too stupid to review the settings you deserve what you get biggrin.gif. They probably ought to examine the downstream device's audio capabilities in its EDID block but they don't do that. Setting Audio Mode to "Stereo" doesn't prohibit the use of 5.1 sound on Netflix; if you set it for any title it'll remain set until you explicitly select stereo when playing a title.
post #423 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

It upconverts everything to 1080p unless its natively 1080p, like the vast majority of Netflix's HD (the ones marked Super HD in their descriptions; marked just "HD" they're 720p only) and VUDU HDX.
Who knows? No doubt some of them. If you're too stupid to review the settings you deserve what you get biggrin.gif. They probably ought to examine the downstream device's audio capabilities in its EDID block but they don't do that. Setting Audio Mode to "Stereo" doesn't prohibit the use of 5.1 sound on Netflix; if you set it for any title it'll remain set until you explicitly select stereo when playing a title.

Since when are the ones marked HD only 720P on Netflix? Shouldn't they still be playing the 1080P 3800kbps encode without Open Connect? This is how it seem to work on FiOS. And if I use the UNBlock US DNS Ip addresses i get access to the two 1080P encodes for SuperHD.
post #424 of 1724
I am also going to post this at the Yamaha Aventage forum. I just bought a ROKU 3. It is connected via HDMI to my RX-A2000. The ROKU is set to 1080P and DD. When I stream an HD/DD movie from the ROKU, the RX-A2000 says PCM and sound only comes out of my two fronts, no sound from the center channel, rears or sub. Any ideas?
post #425 of 1724
All the Epix crap is 720p and only on your TV. On your PC it is only 480p. The problem is the Epix crap has no logo or anything unlike when they had that horrible Starz Play you knew because it had a logo on the cover artwork.

By the way I have Epix on Dish Network so when I see a movie on my guide and check it on Netflix it has no Super HD just 720p HD and only on your TV.
post #426 of 1724
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Since when are the ones marked HD only 720P on Netflix? Shouldn't they still be playing the 1080P 3800kbps encode without Open Connect? This is how it seem to work on FiOS. And if I use the UNBlock US DNS Ip addresses i get access to the two 1080P encodes for SuperHD.

In general, if you can see the Super HD logos in the player that you're using, only they have any 1080p encodes. The ones that say just "HD" usually only go up to 720p; on Netflix's website these will be marked "Available in HD on your TV" as opposed to just "Available in HD" (I'm abbreviating it as "HDYTV"). You can't play these in HD on PCs at all. For examples, see Thor, Captain America, Super 8, True Grit (2010), Warrior, etc. (Some of these might have 1080p encodes when viewed in other regions, as well as available DD+ 5.1 sound when they're only stereo in the US; prime example, The Hunger Games--720p/stereo in the US, Super HD/5.1 in Canada).

I have run across a few older titles which are marked HDYTV but which have Super HD encodes on embedded devices. King Kong, the original Footloose and The Bad News Bears are examples of that. There's also a studio element; no matter how old, Paramount releases seem to consistently be HDYTV and 720p-only on embedded devices.
post #427 of 1724
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Originally Posted by Dominic26 View Post

I am also going to post this at the Yamaha Aventage forum. I just bought a ROKU 3. It is connected via HDMI to my RX-A2000. The ROKU is set to 1080P and DD. When I stream an HD/DD movie from the ROKU, the RX-A2000 says PCM and sound only comes out of my two fronts, no sound from the center channel, rears or sub. Any ideas?

To get 5.1 from the Roku you'll need to set the audio to 5.1 in the Roku settings menu. If you are getting your content from Netflix, you will additionally need to select the 5.1 choice in the Audio and Subtitles menu of the Netflix movie selection. Lastly, your receiver must be able to decode Dolby Digital Plus (not just plain Dolby Digital). Vudu also uses DD+. I believe Amazon content is standard DD.
post #428 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

For examples, see Thor, Captain America, Super 8, True Grit (2010), Warrior, etc. (Some of these might have 1080p encodes when viewed in other regions, as well as available DD+ 5.1 sound when they're only stereo in the US; prime example, The Hunger Games--720p/stereo in the US, Super HD/5.1 in Canada).

All those movies are Epix titles which is why they are only 720p on your TV. Michael you must not have Epix. I have Epix on Dish so when I browse for movies on my Dish Network guide from the three Epix channels I can tell that they are Epix titles. I wish Netflix would mark them as so like they use to do with StarzPlay.
post #429 of 1724
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

All those movies are Epix titles which is why they are only 720p on your TV. Michael you must not have Epix. I have Epix on Dish so when I browse for movies on my Dish Network guide from the three Epix channels I can tell that they are Epix titles. I wish Netflix would mark them as so like they use to do with StarzPlay.

I recall the PR about Netflix's deal with Epix (whose exclusivity expired back in September, when Amazon got access to the same titles for Prime Instant Video). Surely not all of the HDYTV titles are part of that deal, though Epix probably accounts for the greatest number of the more recent, big release titles in the Netflix streaming catalog.

I'm sure that marking the Starz Play stuff with the Starz Play logo was part of their deal with Starz. It was certainly much more valuable than marking the Epix titles with it, since the video transfers for the Starz Play things were pretty much entirely super crappy, with no HD encodes at all and few if any OAR ones. That's not at all true of the Epix deal tites, whose only fault are that they're 720p-only and can't be viewed in HD on PCs; the 720p encodes are as good as the 720p encodes of other Netflix streaming titles. It's easy enough to tell the 720p-only titles if the player you're using has the Super HD indicators.
post #430 of 1724
I have some trouble with the Roku 3 tonight with Netflix. I will be posting what I typed on the Roku forums.
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I had poor streaming quality all evening on the Roku 3. I was watching the movie "The Beverley Hillbillies" and it keeps dropping down to poor quality.
Then I watched Hawaii-Five-O and it played great and stayed in 1080 HD.
Then I watched Star Trek Deep Space 9 which is not in HD anyway.
Then I watched The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes and within 4 minutes it keeps dropping down to SD. So then I fired up my PS3 which forced me to update it to 4.41 and then after it updated I went into the Netflix app on the PS3 with version 2.11 and watched The Avengers the entire episode played great and stayed in 1080 HD.
Then I rebooted the Roku 3 using the secret menu. Then watched Voltron Force and it stayed in 1080 HD through the entire episode.
Then I tried to watch the rest of "The Beverly Hillbillies" and within 5 minutes it dropped down to crappy quality. Then I went back to the PS3 and I just watched the rest of the movie no problem.

This is not the first time I had this problem with the Roku 3. It was rare though only doing it last month trying to watch a episode of Merlin the series.
The only difference is that the Roku 3 is hooked up to a Monoprice Gigibit Ethernet Switch to the router and my PS3 is hooked up directly to the Netgear WNDR4300 router.

If this keeps up back to the PS3. I got the Roku 3 to save electric since it uses so little power yet the PS3 is streaming better. The PS3 will ramp up to a HD pictue much quicker while the Roku it will be a blurry mess heck it is so bad that I can't even see their faces or read the opening credits (good grief Netflix has to get rid of there unbearable Low/SD 224 kbps worthless encodes).

Playing some programs on the Roku 3 it keep dropping the HD to a cruddy blurry SD.
As I said the PS3 gave me zero problems just watched Alias and it staid in 1080 HD through the entire program I however did not try it on the Roku 3.
post #431 of 1724
I have been streaming more and more movies from amazon video, vudu hd an hdx though my oppo 103. I sometimes use my tivo for amazon video and
seemingly everytime I stream a video of any quality via my Oppo, I constantly have buffering issues when I'm getting download speeds of 25mb to 45mb
a second though my astound connection. It takes almost twice as long to watch a movie using vudu which I like the quality of but I'm done, sick and tired
of dropped connections. If I can get an advantage with streaming movies via a roku 3, deal me in.

I certainly wouldn't use apple tv which they tout streams
netflx ( old , outdated releases, airplay, my photo collection and most of the people touting apple tv and itunes are apple shills and blinded by I love apple
loyalty. I own 5 mac computers and 3 ipods, but I hate apple eliminating optical drives and trying to make itunes rule digital playback. I see a problem in the
future when movies are kept in the clouds. I have an extensive movie collection 475 ( really good ones, started with 500 laser discs and I can watch them all
at any time. ) sorry for the rant but digital media kept in some cloud server is only available if you have a fast connection and are lucky, what's happening to
the way people think. Sometimes I'll be watching something on Directv, realize I own the movie and want to watch and hear a good version and do it.


getting back to my original question, will the roku 3 probably fix my issues. I'm sick of using devices that stream movies as an afterthought convenience????
post #432 of 1724
Agree you have issues. frown.gif
post #433 of 1724
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Originally Posted by dboff01 View Post

To get 5.1 from the Roku you'll need to set the audio to 5.1 in the Roku settings menu. If you are getting your content from Netflix, you will additionally need to select the 5.1 choice in the Audio and Subtitles menu of the Netflix movie selection. Lastly, your receiver must be able to decode Dolby Digital Plus (not just plain Dolby Digital). Vudu also uses DD+. I believe Amazon content is standard DD.

Thanks. That worked. The only follow up I have is: Can I set 5.1 as a default on the Netflix website or must I choose at the point of streaming? Now if At&T would allow the Super HD for Netflix here in West Michigan.
post #434 of 1724
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Originally Posted by Dominic26 View Post

Thanks. That worked. The only follow up I have is: Can I set 5.1 as a default on the Netflix website or must I choose at the point of streaming? Now if At&T would allow the Super HD for Netflix here in West Michigan.

The setting is "sticky"; use it once and it will be on for every title which features 5.1 sound until you turn it off when playing one. The same goes for closed captions/subtitles.
post #435 of 1724
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Originally Posted by chuna View Post

Its not just Hulu. Try Netflix, you wont get HD nor 5.1 sound through Playon nor any other services. Playon is only good if you want SD content and stereo sound, If youre into HD and 5.1 sound, Playon is useless.

I don't know why anybody would use PlayOn for Netflix or any other service to stream HD/DD5.1 movies, that would be Stupid,but i'm not a HD brat,and i do use it for Hulu and a few other services(not Hulu+)that stream in 480p(480p in/480p out),and PlayOn allows me to watch directly on my tv w/o having to stream it through my laptop.Plus with PlayOn i can use the 3rd.party scripts/plugins they offer,and i like the access to YT.,and until Roku and Google reach some sort of agreement,PlayOn is the only way to access YT on Roku other than Plex,which i've had no luck installing.But for my purposes PlayOn is better.
Like i said before,not everybody likes PlayOn.Some love it,some hate it.I like it for what it 'can' do.It fills a niche for me,w/o PlayOn my viewing choices would be quite a bit fewer. YMMV
Edited by greaser - 4/27/13 at 3:04pm
post #436 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

The setting is "sticky"; use it once and it will be on for every title which features 5.1 sound until you turn it off when playing one. The same goes for closed captions/subtitles.

Thank you.
post #437 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

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Originally Posted by Dominic26 View Post

Thanks. That worked. The only follow up I have is: Can I set 5.1 as a default on the Netflix website or must I choose at the point of streaming? Now if At&T would allow the Super HD for Netflix here in West Michigan.

The setting is "sticky"; use it once and it will be on for every title which features 5.1 sound until you turn it off when playing one. The same goes for closed captions/subtitles.

Actually, it’s not "sticky" for 5.1 foreign titles, btw.
You need to change it back and forth (between 5.1 English/ 5.1 foreign titles) or it will default to “stereo”.
post #438 of 1724
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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

Actually, it’s not "sticky" for 5.1 foreign titles, btw.
You need to change it back and forth (between 5.1 English/ 5.1 foreign titles) or it will default to “stereo”.

I'd never noticed that! If you last used 5.1 English in an English language title it should default to 5.1 in whatever the default language is. Annoying, but I only watch a tiny fraction as many foreign language films as English ones and not all of the ones that I do watch have available 5.1 sound on Netflix.

Going through my IQ testing this, I noticed that Let the Right One In lists its available soundtracks as being in English when they're actually in Swedish. It defaults to 5.1 biggrin.gif.

The PS3-style Netflix players (as on my PS3, WD TV Live, TiVo Premiere and my BD players) default to 5.1 sound for foreign language films. I think that they all check the downstream HDMI sink's sound capability to make sure that it can do DD+. Also I think that they can all convert DD+ into basic DD if necessary (my launch model PS3 can only do that). For some reason Roku has chosen to eschew reading the downstream sink's EDID for sound capability (I suggested it) and implemented this sticky idea instead. For several months after the Roku 2 shipped you had to turn 5.1 sound on every time--it was driving me nuts rolleyes.gif. The advent of "sticky" 5.1 sound was a godsend.
Edited by michaeltscott - 4/28/13 at 12:15am
post #439 of 1724
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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

Actually, it’s not "sticky" for 5.1 foreign titles, btw.
You need to change it back and forth (between 5.1 English/ 5.1 foreign titles) or it will default to “stereo”.

I'd never noticed that! Thanks for pointing it out--I've probably watched some foreign language films in stereo when I could have had 5.1. If you last used 5.1 English in an English language title it should default to 5.1 in whatever the default language is. Annoying, but I only watch a tiny fraction as many foreign language films as English ones and not all of the ones that I do watch have available 5.1 sound on Netflix.

Going through my IQ testing this, I noticed that Let the Right One In lists its available soundtracks as being in English when they're actually in Swedish. It defaults to 5.1 biggrin.gif.

The PS3-style Netflix players (as on my PS3, WD TV Live, TiVo Premiere and my BD players) default to 5.1 sound for foreign language films. I think that they all check the downstream HDMI sink's sound capability to make sure that it can do DD+. Also I think that they can all convert DD+ into basic DD if necessary (my launch model PS3 can only do that). For some reason Roku has chosen to eschew reading the downstream sink's EDID for sound capability (I suggested it) and implemented this sticky idea instead. For several months after the Roku 2 shipped you had to turn 5.1 sound on every time--it was driving me nuts rolleyes.gif. The advent of "sticky" 5.1 sound was a godsend.
post #440 of 1724
I've had my Roku 3 since they came available and been enjoying ever since I got it. Yesterday went to watch What to expect when your expecting and for the first time ever got the HDCP warning screen. Tried The Awakening and same thing. Tried both films on my Roku XR in my bedroom and both played no problem. So I unplugged the 3 and they both played fine after the reboot. Tried again this morning and no problems. Display and Roku are both set to 1080p. Just a strange glitch or has anyone else been having this type of problem. Thanks.
post #441 of 1724
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I've had my Roku 3 since they came available and been enjoying ever since I got it. Yesterday went to watch What to expect when your expecting and for the first time ever got the HDCP warning screen. Tried The Awakening and same thing. Tried both films on my Roku XR in my bedroom and both played no problem. So I unplugged the 3 and they both played fine after the reboot. Tried again this morning and no problems. Display and Roku are both set to 1080p. Just a strange glitch or has anyone else been having this type of problem. Thanks.

I saw the same problem once a few weeks back. I believe that I encountered it when trying to play something from Netflix; out of curiosity I tried playing titles in VUDU and Amazon and ran into the same message. Rebooting fixed it.
post #442 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I saw the same problem once a few weeks back. I believe that I encountered it when trying to play something from Netflix; out of curiosity I tried playing titles in VUDU and Amazon and ran into the same message. Rebooting fixed it.
Mine was on Netflix. There has been some discussion about this over on the Roku forums with some people returning for new units but overall there doesn't seem to be much consensus about how serious this may be or if it's a problem at all. Just watched another film on Netflix this afternoon with no problems.
post #443 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I'd never noticed that! Thanks for pointing it out--I've probably watched some foreign language films in stereo when I could have had 5.1. If you last used 5.1 English in an English language title it should default to 5.1 in whatever the default language is.

Playing around with this I've since determined that it has an interaction with the 5.1 sound setting on titles in all other languages. If the sticky setting is currently 5.1 for English and you set it to 5.1 for some other language the default becomes stereo for English language films. It's more general than that; if you set sound for a title in a specific language to 5.1, 5.1 will be "sticky" for that language. Set 5.1 sound for a Chinese language film and whether or not you play it, all titles with Chinese 5.1 soundtracks will default to 5.1. All titles in other languages which have 5.1 soundtracks will default to stereo until you set one to 5.1 after which all titles in that language will default to 5.1 and titles in all other languages to stereo.

I was willing to accept all foreign language titles defaulting to 5.1 sound as being an annoying "feature" but this is a bug. I'm going to post a complaint about it in the Roku forums. I think that Roku and Netflix jointly maintain that channel so I'm sure that the problem report will get either addressed by Roku or forwarded to Netflix. Of course, I can't say when it will be fixed, if ever; they might not see it as being serious enough to merit the effort.

EDIT: My bug report can be seen here.
Edited by michaeltscott - 4/28/13 at 6:04pm
post #444 of 1724
I just hooked up my roku 3 in Canada and I don't have access apparently to VUDU, hulu plus, amazon, HBO go, disney, etc. Is this normal or am I just missing them in the various channel menus? Am I screwed being up in Canada with this wonderful device? I apologize if this has been covered elsewhere in this forum.

Thanks
post #445 of 1724
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Originally Posted by Tacklebary View Post

I just hooked up my roku 3 in Canada and I don't have access apparently to VUDU, hulu plus, amazon, HBO go, disney, etc. Is this normal or am I just missing them in the various channel menus? Am I screwed being up in Canada with this wonderful device?

A number of services are only available regionally. You might want to try Unblock-Us.com, a Canadian service that a number of us here in the US use to get access to Netflix titles not available here. I believe that it opens up access to region-locked services as well (using Unblock, I can use BBC iPlayer on my PC and PS3, generally only available in Britain).

I'm not sure how you get the channels on your Roku. Do they show up in the Channel Store if you're using Unblock? I can't say. I do know that the BBC iPlayer channel isn't available on my US Roku. (EDIT: Looking at this Unblock support article, there is a procedure by which you can get many of the US region channels).
post #446 of 1724
Thanks I will give that a try and hope for the best.
post #447 of 1724
I picked up a Roku 3 at Target today in Houston. FYI
post #448 of 1724
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Originally Posted by Tacklebary View Post

I just hooked up my roku 3 in Canada and I don't have access apparently to VUDU, hulu plus, amazon, HBO go, disney, etc. Is this normal or am I just missing them in the various channel menus? Am I screwed being up in Canada with this wonderful device? I apologize if this has been covered elsewhere in this forum.

Thanks

Hi, I'm in same boat...hooked up with PrivateInternetAccess VPN to US east servers...but my Roku still isn't giving me Hulu Plus, etc...

I've factory reset my Roku as well. From the Roku website, it says I can't add HuluPlus because I'm in the wrong area??

Appreciate any help, too.
post #449 of 1724
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Originally Posted by junkeeroo View Post

Hi, I'm in same boat...hooked up with PrivateInternetAccess VPN to US east servers...but my Roku still isn't giving me Hulu Plus, etc...

I've factory reset my Roku as well. From the Roku website, it says I can't add HuluPlus because I'm in the wrong area??

Appreciate any help, too.

As I stated above, Unblock-US.com has these instructions on how to get US channels on your Roku. It's a bit more complicated than just setting up to use a VPN and factory resetting your Roku.
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

As I stated above, Unblock-US.com has these instructions on how to get US channels on your Roku. It's a bit more complicated than just setting up to use a VPN and factory resetting your Roku.

OK, thanks michaeltscott...I actually never read it but got it figured out with some tinkering:

OK, I figured out the problem. My Roku account was set up with a Canadian address...need to sign up your credit card with your actual billing address but also with a US zip code instead of your postal code (you do this by taking the #'s in your postal code, e.g., L2H 3R4 = 234, and adding 2 zeros at the end at the end, e.g., 00 = 23400...then do a US postal code look up to see if it's valid; if it's not, try 01 (23401), or 02 (23402), etc.

My Roku's all good to go...hello HuluPlus!
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