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post #661 of 1724
I have no problem getting plenty of action in my Buttkickers split out from my Sub Out with the Roku 3 as the source. You have some kind of setup problem. As I mentioned previously make sure you have more than just LFE going into the Buttkickers i.e., also crossed over bass.

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post #662 of 1724
Question:

If the R3 can't process the sound how can it kill the sound going out with the video on the Hdmi and send it to the remote for the head hphone jack?
post #663 of 1724
Hmmm, I am not seeing it on the display nor the screen (when I call for it) with my Onkyo.
I'm totally confused now.
Maybe I need to go back and turn off the other processing I am using (Audyssey DSX) and see if it shows up ........ ???
post #664 of 1724
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

Question:

If the R3 can't process the sound how can it kill the sound going out with the video on the Hdmi and send it to the remote for the head hphone jack?
That would be a real good question for a Roku engineer. If I knew one. smile.gif
post #665 of 1724
Well I found my problem.
I never get into 5 channel surround mode with my R3, it's always in stereo mode even though I am selecting the SS out of set-up.

I should have been clued in that something with this particular R3 wasn't quite right when the screen saver never changed from the default to the digital clock ....... even though I verified the digital clock was checked marked in set-up.

In any case I did a factory reset and now it's bricked (stays stuck at the language screen).
I'll contact them again tomorrow and see if there is a secrete handshake that I can do with the remote to breath life back into it.

Thanks for the hints Capt.!!
As soon as I figured out how to 'properly' display the screen you referenced on my Onkyo, I could see that 'most' my other devices were working as expected, but the R3 never showed up with anything but 2 channel PCM stereo at 48 Khz. no matter what I selected in the set-up for audio.
In fact by doing what you showed me, I found I didn't have my PS3's audio setup the way I though I did ..... and so it helped me fix that as well. smile.gif

And also on the plus side, after reading Gary J's success with his Buttkickers, I'm encouraged that I will be able to stay with the R3 ...... once I get a good one. wink.gif

No biggie, I got it from Amazon a couple of weeks ago (during the $90 special they had) and I'm sure they will replace it need be.
post #666 of 1724
Yes, they're very good with returns. You'll probably want to re-order a new one. Send the old one back with the RMA they give you. Can be done via the web without a phone call.
And you've got a new one on the way without waiting for the old one to be shipped and processed, etc.

Glad to be of help and you figured out you had a defective unit and not a more serious problem with your other gear. smile.gif
post #667 of 1724
Yeah ....... it's been a learning experience with all this new gear, and I got a 'lot more' out of the help from you guys than just finding the problem with the R3.

At my age it's always great to find that the light bulb can still be lit ........... slow to brighten ......... but still lit!! wink.gif

Thanks you both Capt. and Gary, I really appreciate you setting me on the correct track with this!! smile.gif
post #668 of 1724
Just remember to set the Roku to surround and you will get plenty of butt kicking assuming correct AVR settings and connections. Trust me on this. cool.gif
post #669 of 1724
With the Roku, isn't setting it for surround sound not enough with Netflix? My memory on initial set up was then having to go to Netflix and choosing a movie that had a 5.1 track but having to manually go into the audio options and choosing 5.1. From that point on, I got multi-channel from Netflix. I hope this is helpful and not confusing.
post #670 of 1724
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Originally Posted by Neil S. Bulk View Post

With the Roku, isn't setting it for surround sound not enough with Netflix? My memory on initial set up was then having to go to Netflix and choosing a movie that had a 5.1 track but having to manually go into the audio options and choosing 5.1. From that point on, I got multi-channel from Netflix. I hope this is helpful and not confusing.
It's been reported that sometimes it forgets this setting. Be it due to an update or Roku Dementia, whatever...
post #671 of 1724
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Originally Posted by Neil S. Bulk View Post

With the Roku, isn't setting it for surround sound not enough with Netflix? My memory on initial set up was then having to go to Netflix and choosing a movie that had a 5.1 track but having to manually go into the audio options and choosing 5.1. From that point on, I got multi-channel from Netflix. I hope this is helpful and not confusing.

You do have to select it in Netflix; other services with surround, like HBO Go and Amazon, don't require anything further than enabling it in system settings. Netflix's problem is that their surround is Dolby Digital Plus, which many old AVRs cannot decode. When that Netflix player feature first appeared on the Roku 2 you had to enable it prior to playing every single title with 5.1 sound. Their compromise was to make the selection "sticky"; turn it on for one title and it will remain enabled for every title with 5.1 sound until you turn it off for such a title. The same thing goes for English subtitles.
post #672 of 1724
Neil you are correct.

First ....... I'm not sure why, but the "Factory Reset" from the setting menu ended up breaking the link with the remote, and making the R3 appear to be bricked.
But, I had programmed my Harmony remote so I was able to get the R3 back up and running using it.
And now I don't seem to have the digital clock screen saver issue going Elvis on me anymore.
But it was still not passing 5.1, only 2 channel PCM 48kHz.

So I tried what you said Neil, I called up a Netflix movie with 5.1, changed the Audio and Subtitles default setting under the ratings area there, from 2 channel to 5.1 surround sound, it's working fine ...... sending everything that is 5.1 on to be decoded by my Onkyo, and sent out as 7.2 Wide.

I have my subs at full operation!!
Buttkickers are kicking butt!!
Sounds great!!
Mr. and Mrs. Flyer are 'very' happy campers!!

If it forgets the setting I now know how to fix it!!

So it's cyber-beers all around!!

You all have a great weekend, and thanks again guys!!
post #673 of 1724
Hooray!
post #674 of 1724
Try resetting your Roku 3 remote as it uses WiFi Direct which is finicky. I think the reset button is under the battery cover then try to pair it again.
post #675 of 1724
Thanks Dice, yup ......... that did get the remote linked back up and working again!

I have no idea why doing the reset caused it to lose the link with the remote.
I've reset it again a few times ....just to wring it out, and it fires right back up.
And so far ..... no further issues with the screen saver going back to the default bouncing Roku anymore.

My 30 days with Amazon is not up until the 13 of next month, so I'll do as Capt. V advised, and get another one ordered and send this one back when it arrives ...... just in case.
But so far it's rock solid.
post #676 of 1724
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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

Question:

If the R3 can't process the sound how can it kill the sound going out with the video on the Hdmi and send it to the remote for the head hphone jack?

The remote & the box communicate via (2-way) “WiFi Direct”.
post #677 of 1724
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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

Question:

If the R3 can't process the sound how can it kill the sound going out with the video on the Hdmi and send it to the remote for the head hphone jack?

The remote & the box communicate via (2-way) “WiFi Direct”.

I think that he meant that if you're listening to DD or DD+ 5.1 as played through your AVR how can it send sound through the remote. It switches to whatever the stereo sound stream is and sends that to the remote via WiDi.
post #678 of 1724
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

Question:

If the R3 can't process the sound how can it kill the sound going out with the video on the Hdmi and send it to the remote for the head hphone jack?

The remote & the box communicate via (2-way) “WiFi Direct”.

I think that he meant that if you're listening to DD or DD+ 5.1 as played through your AVR how can it send sound through the remote. It switches to whatever the stereo sound stream is and sends that to the remote via WiDi.

It sounded like; he’s trying to (technically) figure out how the box (R3) will know when to kill the sound going out (not the video) on the Hdmi and send the (stereo) sound to the remote (instead).

If that’s what he meant, I pointed to (2-way) “WiFi Direct” communication (between the remote & the box) – when remote’s “headphone jack” is in use, the remote ‘d send command to the box then the box routes the audio signal to it.

make sense? … smile.gif
post #679 of 1724
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Originally Posted by avf5 View Post

It sounded like; he’s trying to (technically) figure out how the box (R3) will know when to kill the sound going out (not the video) on the Hdmi and send the (stereo) sound to the remote (instead).

I read "If the R3 can't process the sound how can it kill the sound going out with the video on the Hdmi and send it to the remote for the headphone jack?" (fixed), meaning "how can it turn the DD or DD+ it was sending over HDMI into something that it can send to the headphone jack". In what other way would not being able to process sound prevent it from sending it to the remote for headphones?
post #680 of 1724
^
Ok, here is my guess …


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Originally Posted by rdgcss View Post

Question:

If the R3 can't process the sound how can it kill the sound going out with the video on the Hdmi and send it to the remote for the head hphone jack?

I think, the “OZMO2000” (ultra-low-power) single-chip in "R3 remote control" supports Wi-Fi Direct (& legacy Wi-Fi adapters) and audio integration with built-in direct streaming audio for a low-cost audio codec (like the ultra-low-power stereo audio codec IC (U11) in R3’s remote). When the "remote headphone jack” is activated, the remote sends a command (via P2P WiDi) to the box. The box cuts hdmi audio (but not video) selects “stereo track” (instead of surround sound track) and routes the audio signal to the remote to be processed to drive headphones (or powered-speakers).

makes more sense? ... smile.gif
post #681 of 1724
Your original response ("The remote & the box communicate via (2-way) “WiFi Direct”".) made perfect sense. My objection was that I didn't think that he was asking about how the Roku 3 can send sound to the remote at all (you know, the WiDi part). I believe that he was asking "how, if it was sending DD or DD+ over HDMI, can the Roku 3 switch to sending sound to the remote without being able to process DD or DD+ to convert it into something the remote can play on headphones?" It's the dynamically switching from streaming DD sound to streaming stereo from Netflix or Amazon's or HBO's or whoever's servers which he was unclear about.
post #682 of 1724
My wife got me a Roku 3 for fathers day. Man, one of the best gifts I've gotten in a long time. Even though I'm not the only one using it, I don't have to hear the family complain how the shows keep reloading while they are watching them. smile.gif The thing is awesome, have streamed A LOT of Netflix and Amazon on it, with zero issues that I had running those apps through my TV. It's very fast to respond to commands and button pushes. I love it. And all the apps it has access to, holy moly I had no idea there was that many streaming apps out there. biggrin.gif

Roku 3 FTW!
post #683 of 1724
I've Googled this but haven't found any comments about it, but does anyone else experience a sluggish Roku 3 interface after a week or two of use? It gets so bad I have to reboot the system. Any idea what's going on and, if possible, to prevent it?
post #684 of 1724
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Originally Posted by thunderclap View Post

I've Googled this but haven't found any comments about it, but does anyone else experience a sluggish Roku 3 interface after a week or two of use? It gets so bad I have to reboot the system. Any idea what's going on and, if possible, to prevent it?

It is common and so far unavoidable. When I notice it (at my convenience) I just hit the following keys Home5X, FF, Play, RW, Play, FF then I select System reboot from the menu.
post #685 of 1724
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I just hit the following keys Home5X, FF, Play, RW, Play, FF then I select System reboot from the menu.

Ugh...why couldn't they include a simple reboot option in the Settings menu?

post #686 of 1724
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Originally Posted by thunderclap View Post

I've Googled this but haven't found any comments about it, but does anyone else experience a sluggish Roku 3 interface after a week or two of use? It gets so bad I have to reboot the system. Any idea what's going on and, if possible, to prevent it?

I've not run into this with mine. For instance, mine sat unused for a couple of weeks. I used it some last night and saw no issues from it. Unless there was a software update recently that rebooted it, it has been running the screen saver all this time.
post #687 of 1724
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

Ugh...why couldn't they include a simple reboot option in the Settings menu?

That has been suggested to them many, many times. That sequence is a debug mechanism not meant to be used by customers.
post #688 of 1724
http://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/02/apple-close-to-completing-apple-tv-deal-with-time-warner-cable/
Just read this.Think this will lure more cable subscribers to buy an ATV instead of the Roku?
It sure will be nice having WatchESPN AND a TWC channel on one unit (will finally be able to watch ESPN channels in HD in my bedroom). I hope this is an incentive for Roku to work a bit harder to add the ESPN channel.
post #689 of 1724
You will still be missing locals.
post #690 of 1724
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Originally Posted by DoctorOhh View Post

It is common and so far unavoidable. When I notice it (at my convenience) I just hit the following keys Home5X, FF, Play, RW, Play, FF then I select System reboot from the menu.
I found this info tip very useful.
When Shoutcast stations lock up and start buffering slowly, I can now remotely reboot the dang device to get Shoutcast to load stations quick again.
fyi, the Shoutcast channel app for me on my Roku 3 is buggy where after a little while using Shoutcast, it will not load stations quickly any longer and will sit there slow buffering for a long time until the station loads.
If you reboot the box then Shoutcast will once again work fine for the first few minutes and then go into that buggy slow buffering mode again. The developer says he knows about the issue but has not fixed it yet.
I have other postings I've just started pursuing a fix for Shoutcast on Roku 3.

Thank You!
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