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post #871 of 1727
None of the Rokus "support" any Dolby format--they just pass them through. You won't find the Dolby logo on the unit, their site or any of their documentation; they don't license any Dolby tech.

DD+ out of Netflix and VUDU has worked just fine for me on the Roku 2 and Roku 3 with my Onkyo AVRs.

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post #872 of 1727
Update...

Got home from work today planning to reset the Roku 3 to factory settings and reinstall the channels. Saw that that worked for people who were having incomprehensible problems. However, without changing anything, Vudu movies streamed PERFECTLY!!!

I have no idea why last night didn't work. Maybe an HDMI handshake issue with all the adjustments I was making.
post #873 of 1727
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Originally Posted by dryasanne View Post

So, i own two Sony bluray players, the 790 and 5100,
--- are you saying I will get a much better viewing experince on my amazon instant video, vudu and netflix ??

Netflix and vudu are acceptable, but amazon is just bad on my blurayplayers.

I can't comment on the Sony interface, but the Roku interface is quite good and on the Roku 3 it's pretty quick too. That is one of the things I like about the Roku 3. I can get thru the interfaces and to the videos quicker than most other streamers I have used. As much as I like to stream MLB on my my XBox 360 for its Dual screen view, in the time it takes for the app to start and get into a game(other than the default one it shows when it starts), I can get in and out of at least 2 games on the Roku 3.

Netflix is similar to other interfaces, but personally I've seen a couple different versions that I like a little better than what is on Roku. The Vudu interface should be virtually identical I think, since I believe Vudu went to a pretty standardized look across platforms. The updated(to fit with the new Roku interface theme/look)Amazon interface is nice. I always hated the horizontal row look of the Rokus, but the new interface has me won over. Several of the top apps have updated their looks/style to fit with the new Roku interface(Amazon, and MLB come to mind).

Now if Roku and Google would get off their duff and get a YouTube channel on Roku and Directv would stop their stupidity(why is it every other streamer, INCLUDING APPLE TV is allowed to be authorized, yet Rokus are not???) and allow HBOGO to be authorized on the Roku, I'd be set.
post #874 of 1727
Netflix Roku channel is the most ugliest thing I have ever seen and anyone who thinks it looks good needs glasses.

Vudu looks the same on the PS3 & Roku. I think what is holding back the YouTube channel and a HTML5 interface for Netflix is that Roku does not want a HTML5 channel but YouTube does.
post #875 of 1727
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

I think what is holding back the YouTube channel and a HTML5 interface for Netflix is that Roku does not want a HTML5 channel but YouTube does.

There was a blogpost on streamingmediablog.com this past spring that suggests that it is hardware related.
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Originally Posted by Dan Rayburn, StreamingMedia.com 
Google requires partners to integrate their HTML based YouTube app on their device and Roku has previously said that performance of HTML based apps on their Roku 2 boxes didn’t perform to the levels they wanted. All Roku 2 models have an old ARM11 chip, first released in 2003, and the new Roku 3 models have a dual-core A9 chip, a big improvement over the legacy chips. The Arm 11 chip has never been powerful nor a very efficient processor and the dual-core A9 chip is exactly the opposite and is up to 5x faster than the ARM11.

Did everyone rush out to upgrade their Rokus when 3 was released? I'd be surprised if even 1/3 of the Roku userbase upgraded. Are we stuck with ugly Netflix and no YouTube until a tipping point of more Roku 3s than Roku 2s is reached?

Then again, it could be Google just being Google. Wanting to lock down YouTube to only authorized viewers or platforms.
post #876 of 1727
I bought my first Roku 3 at launch and now regret it. I should have waited. Now that it might be hardware related with no HTML5 YouTube channel or a better HTML5 Netflix channel then I can finally sell it.
post #877 of 1727
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Netflix Roku channel is the most ugliest thing I have ever seen and anyone who thinks it looks good needs glasses.

All hail reddice, supreme arbiter of good taste rolleyes.gif.
post #878 of 1727
Youtube isnt a big deal for me,those vide on demand services are.

Simply because when paying big money for montly / yearly plans, I want to get me the best streaming box I can get.
I have tried both boxee and apple tv, none gave any improvment over my Sony bluray player.

So a roku 3 is now on its way to my humble hometheater :-)


Youtube I watch on my Ipad, jb, fantastic HD on most videos.


PS
OT; that hdmi cable -- do we buy the the most expensive or will a "cheap" good quality do?
post #879 of 1727
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Originally Posted by dryasanne View Post

Youtube isnt a big deal for me,those vide on demand services are.

Simply because when paying big money for montly / yearly plans, I want to get me the best streaming box I can get.
I have tried both boxee and apple tv, none gave any improvment over my Sony bluray player.

So a roku 3 is now on its way to my humble hometheater :-)


Youtube I watch on my Ipad, jb, fantastic HD on most videos.


PS
OT; that hdmi cable -- do we buy the the most expensive or will a "cheap" good quality do?
Despite some individual criticism, you'll like the Roku 3. Had one since they came out and it looks fine, works perfectly and fun to use. I haven't had one iota of a problem with it (or with my 2XS, my XR or Roku 2). Not sure why anyone would care what a channel looks like (though I have to admit the recent update of the TWC Channel is very slick looking). I just want the unit to work and it does to perfection.
post #880 of 1727
A complete setup to cover most of the bases has a Apple TV right along side. You can have Watch ESPN too. Give up Roku and you lose Amazon Prime if you use it.
post #881 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

A complete setup to cover most of the bases has a Apple TV right along side. You can have Watch ESPN too. Give up Roku and you lose Amazon Prime if you use it.

Agreed. In my main video room I stream from an ATV, a Roku 2 XS, and my Oppo 93.

-ATV used for HBO Go, Watch ESPN, hulu PLUS, sky NEWS, and MLB at Bat (in addition to proprietary Apple content)
-Oppo used for Vudu, Netflix and Pandora (in addition to Bluray discs of course)
-Roku used for Amazon Prime.

There is of course some duplication across the platforms. The above choices are my primary devices where duplicates exist. I also have a Roku 3 in the bedroom (no AVR, just straight to a 60" Samsung LED). I do find the Roku 3 to be a faster processor and overall it delivers better quality so from time to time I bring it into the video room in place of the 2 XS. Unfortunately the one negative for me is that there is no analog out on the Roku 3 so I can't use it in the Video room because the AVR feeds my zone 2 via analog inputs. If it had analog it would definitely be in the video room full-time.
post #882 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

A complete setup to cover most of the bases has a Apple TV right along side. You can have Watch ESPN too. Give up Roku and you lose Amazon Prime if you use it.

...along with Vudu, if you use that. I am impressed how good Vudu looks on the Roku.
post #883 of 1727
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Originally Posted by Krutsch View Post

...along with Vudu, if you use that. I am impressed how good Vudu looks on the Roku.

Vudu does look good on the Roku 3. Looks GREAT on an Oppo BDP 93 or above.
post #884 of 1727
Amazon Instant played great on the Roku 3 though but I ended up canceling Amazon Prime do to the lack of content and the fact I was paying for two day shipping with Prime at first they were shipping my packages UPS but once they charged me for Prime they shipped my last three packages USPS.
post #885 of 1727
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Vudu does look good on the Roku 3. Looks GREAT on an Oppo BDP 93 or above.

Agreed. That's why I use my Pioneer BDP-62FD for Netflix; it has the same Marvell processor as your Oppo and Netflix looks incredible (way better than on my Roku or Apple TV).
post #886 of 1727
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

Not sure why anyone would care what a channel looks like (though I have to admit the recent update of the TWC Channel is very slick looking). I just want the unit to work and it does to perfection.

It does seem like picking nits. How much time do you spend actually in the the Roku Netflix Channel UI compared to watching Netflix content?

But I can't help but compare it to Netflix on my Kindle Fire and Netflix on WIndows 8. Both prettier and more useful. I'd love to see my Recently Watched on Roku Netflix the way the Fire shows it- Title, still frame of the scene you left it last and a progress indicator of how much left in the program. Not a complaint- just saying there's room for improvement.
post #887 of 1727
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Amazon Instant played great on the Roku 3 though but I ended up canceling Amazon Prime do to the lack of content and the fact I was paying for two day shipping with Prime at first they were shipping my packages UPS but once they charged me for Prime they shipped my last three packages USPS.

You are only paying for the item to arrive in two days or less, NOT two day shipping. Amazon can ship the item anyway they want as long as it gets there in two days. And this is clearly spelled out in the TOS when you signed up for Prime. But if you don't get your item in two days, I've never had any problem getting a $10 credit. An dmost of my $10 credits have been on items that cost less than $10. So the item was essentially free because they screwed up shipping. Usually it's LAserShip that screws things up.
post #888 of 1727
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

You are only paying for the item to arrive in two days or less, NOT two day shipping. Amazon can ship the item anyway they want as long as it gets there in two days. And this is clearly spelled out in the TOS when you signed up for Prime. But if you don't get your item in two days, I've never had any problem getting a $10 credit. An dmost of my $10 credits have been on items that cost less than $10. So the item was essentially free because they screwed up shipping. Usually it's LAserShip that screws things up.

Well I found that out and they lost me as a Prime member. What is the point since for years I used there free shipping and received the items quickly. With free shipping I got items USPS & UPS. I thought Prime was suppose to be UPS. There loss.

Also not to change topics but the Amazon channel for the Roku is way better than Netflix. It is not just that the Netflix channel looks bad but for me it performed bad. I had streams crap out in the same exact spots everytime yet watching those same spots on the PS3 or PC they play without crapping out.

Also going to the Roku forums there is always people complaining that episodes don't advance. I personally think that Roku is holding back the Netflix channel. Netflix most likely wants a HTML5 channel but Roku won't allow it which is why Google wont develop a YouTube channel. Now I know what you are going to say but the older Roku can't handle HTML5. Well sorry and I don't want to be mean but they will stay with the old Netflix channel and no YouTube. There are already channels that only work with the Roku 3.
post #889 of 1727
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Originally Posted by dryasanne View Post

Youtube isnt a big deal for me,those vide on demand services are.

Simply because when paying big money for montly / yearly plans, I want to get me the best streaming box I can get.
I have tried both boxee and apple tv, none gave any improvment over my Sony bluray player.

So a roku 3 is now on its way to my humble hometheater :-)


Youtube I watch on my Ipad, jb, fantastic HD on most videos.


PS
OT; that hdmi cable -- do we buy the the most expensive or will a "cheap" good quality do?

An inexpensive HDMI cable will work just as well as an expensive one. I usually find them on amazon.com for five or six dollars. If I'm in a hurry I pick them up at Big Lots for $10. I've never had an issue with a cheap cable.
post #890 of 1727
Or pay even less at Monoprice.com
post #891 of 1727
I would recommend the thin, flat, flexible HDMI cables. These boxes are so small they won't lie flat with the typical HDMI cable sometimes.
post #892 of 1727
I asked because I have a lot of 1.3 hdmi cables around. Some of they might not even be the 1.3a.

I think I have a HEC cable somewhere, that mean a 1.4 ? Should I use that one, a cheap eBay cable for my roku3 ?
post #893 of 1727
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Originally Posted by dryasanne View Post

I asked because I have a lot of 1.3 hdmi cables around. Some of they might not even be the 1.3a.

I think I have a HEC cable somewhere, that mean a 1.4 ? Should I use that one, a cheap eBay cable for my roku3 ?

You may want to read this 'Still more reasons why all HDMI cable are the same' http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57540275-221/still-more-reasons-why-all-hdmi-cable-are-the-same/

The main issue I had with multiple Roku's was if the HDMI cable didn't fit snugly in the HDMI socket on the Roku.

I actually found some (very) old DirecTV cables that came with DVRs many years ago actually were the best fit and worked perfectly.

Bottom line 2-3$ cable from Monoprice should work fine as will your old HDMI cables.........
post #894 of 1727
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

I bought my first Roku 3 at launch and now regret it. I should have waited. Now that it might be hardware related with no HTML5 YouTube channel or a better HTML5 Netflix channel then I can finally sell it.
I'd take it off your hands at the right price.
post #895 of 1727
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Originally Posted by CaptainVideoJW View Post

I'd take it off your hands at the right price.

Me too, except for the occasional reboot, I've had nothing but good luck with my Roku 3. This morning I went to Netflix using Apple TV and I got an error saying it was unavailable. I then went to Netflix on the Roku 3 and it worked like a charm. smile.gif
post #896 of 1727
The only issue I have with the roku3 is the Speedtest.net app insists on polling servers all around North America before I can select the one 0 miles from my house.
post #897 of 1727
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Originally Posted by gonzlobo View Post

The only issue I have with the roku3 is the Speedtest.net app insists on polling servers all around North America before I can select the one 0 miles from my house.
Yes, I agree. It should be able to determine a more precise location...

But it is a private channel, and someone took their time to write it. So, I thank them for that.
post #898 of 1727
I'm not sure if this was answered before but does the Roku 3 support the playback of lossless Bluray .mkv files stored on a NAS? I'm looking to find an affordable streamer that can play bluray backups I make. I'm planning on backing up my blurays with lossless video and one lossless audio track.
post #899 of 1727
post #1 has a link with specs.
post #900 of 1727
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Originally Posted by lokus View Post

I'm not sure if this was answered before but does the Roku 3 support the playback of lossless Bluray .mkv files stored on a NAS? I'm looking to find an affordable streamer that can play bluray backups I make. I'm planning on backing up my blurays with lossless video and one lossless audio track.

WD TV Live is a far better file player than Roku 3 and can be had for a similar price. It's played everything that I've thrown at it with ease. I've never had any super-high bit rate rips to play on it so I don't know how well it can deal with those; the specs sound as though it should handle the video but I'm not certain what it will do with TrueHD or DTS-HD MA.
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