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post #1 of 8
3/8/13 at 9:52am
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Hi


I have 1000$ and i need to buy two towers,, i have two choices

Cerwin vega xls 215 ( really i love them especially they like a monters.

Klipsch RF 7 II.

If there is any choice better than this two tell me to go with it.

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post #2 of 8
3/8/13 at 11:20am
Where are you finding a pair of Klipsch RF-7 II for 1k?
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post #3 of 8
3/8/13 at 11:51am
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Where are you finding a pair of Klipsch RF-7 II for 1k?


Not pair.
..off curse 1k for each one not pair
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post #4 of 8
3/8/13 at 12:27pm
I mean you are hitting two difference price points. 2,000 dollars for the Klipsch RF-7 II at LEAST. I don't even see them for 1,000 so you're looking for more than 1,000 for each one and close to 3k a pair. In contrast, you're looking at 1200 dollars for a pair of the Cerwins.

You're also hitting two different markets. The XLS line is more of a "Pro Audio but we're selling it to HT crowd" while the Klipsch actually is HT designed. So two completely different designs. The CMX line is more HT oriented design.

I just don't see how you can afford the Klipsch RF-7 IIs at 1000. Or even 2000 dollars. So.... ya.... kind of lost.

What I will say though is if you get the Cerwins DEFINITELY be prepared for an external amplifier. These are similar to DJ speakers (Aren't they actually?) and I recently got a proamp for my HT system. I took my speakers from my frat house party room upstairs one day since we weren't allowed to have any visitors downstairs (stupid that other people get to tell us who can be in our house), and connected DJ speakers upstairs on both floors powered off my amp giving 300 RMS at 8 ohms (Crown XLS 1500). I was close to clipping, but never got there, powering something very similar to these in design. Now the Cerwins aren't rated as high for RMS as the speakers I was powering, but I'd definitely get an amplifier if you wanna see those monster 15 inch wooers hit hard.

I think you're looking at two completely different speakers though.

Klipsch RF-7 IIs are meant to be part of a HT system and have the aesthetics to do so. They won't look out of place in a living room and are a completely different price point.
In contrast, the cerwin vega remind me of a straight up DJ speakers. They actually look exactly like the speakers my fraternity has in our party room save the 6.5 inch woofer. They can probably be used without a subwoofer. The speaker I was running that was similar to this definitely could have been run without a sub and the power/volume was enough from my amplifier that it was uncomfortably loud in the hallways when I was playing it. The ONLY way I'd purchase these Cerwin Vega's would be at my current age, 23 and if I was living in a house with other people where I was going out often on weekends and having guests over to party at my home. Otherwise, I really wouldn't get these speakers for just HT use. If you really don't care about the look though and can get over the fact that each speaker will be 100 lbs (according to specs seems a little high on the weight but it did take two of us to take my fraternity house speakers up the stairs), then sure. The biggest PRO about the CVs though is that you can hook these badboys up right away with an amplifier and play some music and movies and get some decent lows. With the Klipsch RF-7s you'll probably be wanting more and after spending 1500 over your budget, I doubt you'll want to get a matching quality sub. Forget about the fact the center will cost you another small fortune.

This will help you a bit as well about the new XLS
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1294683/cerwin-vega-xls-215-are-they-really-this-good#post_19581380

Don't forget though that why you buy the CV the amplifier is a MUST. If my amplifier is driven almost to clipping, you can guarantee a receiver won't be able to handle these speakers. Does it look like a receiver even could? If you do power these off your AVR you're bound to break something. As a person who has gone through 2 RMAs in the past 5 months due to an underpowered receiver, and who has a friend who has gone through 3 RMAs, you DON'T want to skimp.

You're looking at 1500 for the CV+Amplifier
and anywhere from 2400 to 3000 for the Klipsch. Both out of your price range of 1000.

To clarify though, I haven't heard the CV, I've heard Klipsch speakers, the RF-7 is my dream speaker at the moment although at 2k+ a pair, I'm starting to think I could find much better deals. The only way I'd buy the CV though is as a second system that would double for parties, but like I said, if you can get over the look of them(they don't look like they belong in a living room), then sure do it.

I think I'd be leaning towards the CV more based on your other thread where it seems you want bass from your speakers, and it seems like you wanna run a 2.0 system, but we need more info about what you truly want from your system first.
Edited by tential - 3/8/13 at 12:39pm
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post #5 of 8
3/8/13 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by tential View Post

I mean you are hitting two difference price points. 2,000 dollars for the Klipsch RF-7 II at LEAST. I don't even see them for 1,000 so you're looking for more than 1,000 for each one and close to 3k a pair. In contrast, you're looking at 1200 dollars for a pair of the Cerwins.

You're also hitting two different markets. The XLS line is more of a "Pro Audio but we're selling it to HT crowd" while the Klipsch actually is HT designed. So two completely different designs. The CMX line is more HT oriented design.

I just don't see how you can afford the Klipsch RF-7 IIs at 1000. Or even 2000 dollars. So.... ya.... kind of lost.

What I will say though is if you get the Cerwins DEFINITELY be prepared for an external amplifier. These are similar to DJ speakers (Aren't they actually?) and I recently got a proamp for my HT system. I took my speakers from my frat house party room upstairs one day since we weren't allowed to have any visitors downstairs (stupid that other people get to tell us who can be in our house), and connected DJ speakers upstairs on both floors powered off my amp giving 300 RMS at 8 ohms (Crown XLS 1500). I was close to clipping, but never got there, powering something very similar to these in design. Now the Cerwins aren't rated as high for RMS as the speakers I was powering, but I'd definitely get an amplifier if you wanna see those monster 15 inch wooers hit hard.

I think you're looking at two completely different speakers though.

Klipsch RF-7 IIs are meant to be part of a HT system and have the aesthetics to do so. They won't look out of place in a living room and are a completely different price point.
In contrast, the cerwin vega remind me of a straight up DJ speakers. They actually look exactly like the speakers my fraternity has in our party room save the 6.5 inch woofer. They can probably be used without a subwoofer. The speaker I was running that was similar to this definitely could have been run without a sub and the power/volume was enough from my amplifier that it was uncomfortably loud in the hallways when I was playing it. The ONLY way I'd purchase these Cerwin Vega's would be at my current age, 23 and if I was living in a house with other people where I was going out often on weekends and having guests over to party at my home. Otherwise, I really wouldn't get these speakers for just HT use. If you really don't care about the look though and can get over the fact that each speaker will be 100 lbs (according to specs seems a little high on the weight but it did take two of us to take my fraternity house speakers up the stairs), then sure. The biggest PRO about the CVs though is that you can hook these badboys up right away with an amplifier and play some music and movies and get some decent lows. With the Klipsch RF-7s you'll probably be wanting more and after spending 1500 over your budget, I doubt you'll want to get a matching quality sub. Forget about the fact the center will cost you another small fortune.

This will help you a bit as well about the new XLS
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1294683/cerwin-vega-xls-215-are-they-really-this-good#post_19581380

Don't forget though that why you buy the CV the amplifier is a MUST. If my amplifier is driven almost to clipping, you can guarantee a receiver won't be able to handle these speakers. Does it look like a receiver even could? If you do power these off your AVR you're bound to break something. As a person who has gone through 2 RMAs in the past 5 months due to an underpowered receiver, and who has a friend who has gone through 3 RMAs, you DON'T want to skimp.

You're looking at 1500 for the CV+Amplifier
and anywhere from 2400 to 3000 for the Klipsch. Both out of your price range of 1000.

To clarify though, I haven't heard the CV, I've heard Klipsch speakers, the RF-7 is my dream speaker at the moment although at 2k+ a pair, I'm starting to think I could find much better deals. The only way I'd buy the CV though is as a second system that would double for parties, but like I said, if you can get over the look of them(they don't look like they belong in a living room), then sure do it.

I think I'd be leaning towards the CV more based on your other thread where it seems you want bass from your speakers, and it seems like you wanna run a 2.0 system, but we need more info about what you truly want from your system first.






I need a strong bass in the music and very pure sound.
And lets remove the cerwin vega from the list.
We have jbl for example jbl tl260 and there more types from jbl, i am not experience like you but still need help.
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post #6 of 8
3/8/13 at 1:54pm
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Lets remove cerwin vega from the list.we have for EX jbl tl 260.
And more types from jbl, i am not experience like u but still need help.
I can increase my budget to 1300$ for each. ( 2800-2900$ a pair ).
Give me choices from your experience.
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post #7 of 8
3/8/13 at 3:31pm
I'm in no means experienced but I've been reading a lot on here. Your bass is going to come from your subs. Are you telling me that those 2 rythmik subs aren't enough bass for you? If so, I think you're using the wrong thing to fix your bass. You would be better off buying another sub, rather than buying tower speakers to add more bass.

It's hard to recommend you a course of action to take because no one really knows exactly what you're trying to achieve. So why don't we back up, and you explain your current set up, what you're lacking, and what you're trying to achieve by purchasing new towers. Also, how are your subs oriented? They have one port open or both?

From my just guess work though, you're trying to achieve a LOT of bass. That's the only reason I can see someone considering woofers in their towers as well as having 2 subs.
My preliminary guess is assuming you have set everything up correctly, add another Rythmik sub. Use the extra money to pick up these LSi25Ms off ebay, http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-LSi25-EBONY-Tower-Loudspeakers-Polk-Audio-Direct-/360475428371?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item53ee028613.

That would come to 23-2500 total (I dunno if you got to pay tax or not). I only suggest this because you seem like you won't be satisfied unless your towers have subwoofers and I don't think that will fix your need for bass (I have a huge need for bass as well).

That's just my preliminary guess, more info about you doesn't hurt and more people can help if you give that.
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post #8 of 8
4/30/13 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by tential View Post

I mean you are hitting two difference price points. 2,000 dollars for the Klipsch RF-7 II at LEAST. I don't even see them for 1,000 so you're looking for more than 1,000 for each one and close to 3k a pair. In contrast, you're looking at 1200 dollars for a pair of the Cerwins.

You're also hitting two different markets. The XLS line is more of a "Pro Audio but we're selling it to HT crowd" while the Klipsch actually is HT designed. So two completely different designs. The CMX line is more HT oriented design.

I just don't see how you can afford the Klipsch RF-7 IIs at 1000. Or even 2000 dollars. So.... ya.... kind of lost.

What I will say though is if you get the Cerwins DEFINITELY be prepared for an external amplifier. These are similar to DJ speakers (Aren't they actually?) and I recently got a proamp for my HT system. I took my speakers from my frat house party room upstairs one day since we weren't allowed to have any visitors downstairs (stupid that other people get to tell us who can be in our house), and connected DJ speakers upstairs on both floors powered off my amp giving 300 RMS at 8 ohms (Crown XLS 1500). I was close to clipping, but never got there, powering something very similar to these in design. Now the Cerwins aren't rated as high for RMS as the speakers I was powering, but I'd definitely get an amplifier if you wanna see those monster 15 inch wooers hit hard.

I think you're looking at two completely different speakers though.

Klipsch RF-7 IIs are meant to be part of a HT system and have the aesthetics to do so. They won't look out of place in a living room and are a completely different price point.
In contrast, the cerwin vega remind me of a straight up DJ speakers. They actually look exactly like the speakers my fraternity has in our party room save the 6.5 inch woofer. They can probably be used without a subwoofer. The speaker I was running that was similar to this definitely could have been run without a sub and the power/volume was enough from my amplifier that it was uncomfortably loud in the hallways when I was playing it. The ONLY way I'd purchase these Cerwin Vega's would be at my current age, 23 and if I was living in a house with other people where I was going out often on weekends and having guests over to party at my home. Otherwise, I really wouldn't get these speakers for just HT use. If you really don't care about the look though and can get over the fact that each speaker will be 100 lbs (according to specs seems a little high on the weight but it did take two of us to take my fraternity house speakers up the stairs), then sure. The biggest PRO about the CVs though is that you can hook these badboys up right away with an amplifier and play some music and movies and get some decent lows. With the Klipsch RF-7s you'll probably be wanting more and after spending 1500 over your budget, I doubt you'll want to get a matching quality sub. Forget about the fact the center will cost you another small fortune.

This will help you a bit as well about the new XLS
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1294683/cerwin-vega-xls-215-are-they-really-this-good#post_19581380

Don't forget though that why you buy the CV the amplifier is a MUST. If my amplifier is driven almost to clipping, you can guarantee a receiver won't be able to handle these speakers. Does it look like a receiver even could? If you do power these off your AVR you're bound to break something. As a person who has gone through 2 RMAs in the past 5 months due to an underpowered receiver, and who has a friend who has gone through 3 RMAs, you DON'T want to skimp.

You're looking at 1500 for the CV+Amplifier
and anywhere from 2400 to 3000 for the Klipsch. Both out of your price range of 1000.

To clarify though, I haven't heard the CV, I've heard Klipsch speakers, the RF-7 is my dream speaker at the moment although at 2k+ a pair, I'm starting to think I could find much better deals. The only way I'd buy the CV though is as a second system that would double for parties, but like I said, if you can get over the look of them(they don't look like they belong in a living room), then sure do it.

I think I'd be leaning towards the CV more based on your other thread where it seems you want bass from your speakers, and it seems like you wanna run a 2.0 system, but we need more info about what you truly want from your system first.



to Mr. Tential,

Thanks a lot for posting this kind of views on the choice of speakers. i was also leaning for the CV xls215 but you are definitely right. their size doesn't belong to a home theater. i wouldn't have enough space anymore for my projector screen if i'll get the CV xls215's. they are just HUGE. klipsch rf7ii's are beautiful aesthetically but they're way out of my budget. right now, i'm using polk SDA2a's for my fronts powered by adcom GFA555ii. my HT setup is really a mess right now. speakers are all mixed from polks and klipsch. i've been reading a lot of threads in here too about polks and klipsch and i found out that what i really like is a cone-like tweeter with a soft dome. and on that basis, i happen to land on two choices of brands. the cerwin vega XLS series or the BIC acoustech series.

so, right now, maybe i'll just go for the bic acoustech series all the way. one more question if i'll go for the bics, should i choose the bic PL89's for my fronts or the bic RTR-EV15's? any suggestions please. thank you.

oh, and i'm going to power these babies by emotiva XPA5 and XPR2.
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