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post #1 of 20
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I have a bunch of TV programs recorded on my HD recorder. It does not have a USB output. Is there any way hook up the recorder directly to burn these programs to an external DVD burner? Do any of them have any other inputs then USB?

I also don't have a TV(?) card in my computer (Windows 8) if it might be necessary to get there first.
(I am not very "techy" on these issues)
post #2 of 20
When you refer to HD Recorder I'm assuming that you mean a DVR provided by a cable or satellite company.

One solution is with a DVD Recorder. Feed a DVR output to the corresponding input on the DVD Recorder. Then play the DVR videos while recording in real time with the DVD Recorder.

A better solution is with a HDD/DVD Recorder such as the Magnavox 5xx series models. Feed a DVR output to the corresponding input on the HDD/DVD Recorder. Then play the DVR videos while recording in real time with the HDD/DVD Recorder's internal hard drive, edit the material if you wish and then high speed dub the material to DVD(s).

Once the DVDs have been recorded they must be finalized.

These procedures produce DVDs in the proper format for playing on all manner of players or computers.

The first post in Wajo's sticky thread is the gateway to a wealth of information concerning the Magnavox HDD/DVD Recorders:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/940657/magnavox-537-535-533-515-513-2160a-2160-2080-philips-3576-3575/0_60#post_12244086
post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by clumb31 View Post

I have a bunch of TV programs recorded on my HD recorder. It does not have a USB output. Is there any way hook up the recorder directly to burn these programs to an external DVD burner? Do any of them have any other inputs then USB?

I also don't have a TV(?) card in my computer (Windows 8) if it might be necessary to get there first.
(I am not very "techy" on these issues)

I assume that you are asking about a method that does NOT involve the cumbersome playing back the recorded content in real time and recording it onto a DVD recorder. The answer is, most probably not as these machines are designed specifically to make that operation impossible, or as near impossible as they can. frown.gif
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by DigaDo View Post

When you refer to HD Recorder I'm assuming that you mean a DVR provided by a cable or satellite company.

One solution is with a DVD Recorder. Feed a DVR output to the corresponding input on the DVD Recorder. Then play the DVR videos while recording in real time with the DVD Recorder.

A better solution is with a HDD/DVD Recorder such as the Magnavox 5xx series models. Feed a DVR output to the corresponding input on the HDD/DVD Recorder. Then play the DVR videos while recording in real time with the HDD/DVD Recorder's internal hard drive, edit the material if you wish and then high speed dub the material to DVD(s).

Once the DVDs have been recorded they must be finalized.

These procedures produce DVDs in the proper format for playing on all manner of players or computers.

The first post in Wajo's sticky thread is the gateway to a wealth of information concerning the Magnavox HDD/DVD Recorders:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/940657/magnavox-537-535-533-515-513-2160a-2160-2080-philips-3576-3575/0_60#post_12244086
The equipment I have is an Emerson HDD/DVD/VCR recorder. I do not have a DVR, just an ordinary cable box from Comcast that I connect to the Emerson and then from there to the TV with coax cables. The HDD content I recorded cannot be dubbed to the DVD recorder on the Emerson.
post #5 of 20
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post


I assume that you are asking about a method that does NOT involve the cumbersome playing back the recorded content in real time and recording it onto a DVD recorder. The answer is, most probably not as these machines are designed specifically to make that operation impossible, or as near impossible as they can. frown.gif
I would be VERY HAPPY to play back the recorded content to get it on a DVD. Please also see my previous response.
Thank you to all
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by clumb31 View Post

The equipment I have is an Emerson HDD/DVD/VCR recorder. I do not have a DVR, just an ordinary cable box from Comcast that I connect to the Emerson and then from there to the TV with coax cables. The HDD content I recorded cannot be dubbed to the DVD recorder on the Emerson.

 

It sounds like you might need a filter between the cable box and your Emerson, like one of those described here?

post #7 of 20
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I think I am going to try(!!!) hooking up a separate DVD recorder and play the HDD content to it. I does seem to record TV shows that the other unit will not. Thanks for all the advice!
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by clumb31 View Post

The equipment I have is an Emerson HDD/DVD/VCR recorder.

The HDD content I recorded cannot be dubbed to the DVD recorder on the Emerson.

Emerson (and by extension, Funai) made an HDD recorder with a VCR and DVD section? And you CAN'T dub to DVD from the hard drive? confused.gif I've never heard of such a beast.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by clumb31 View Post

The equipment I have is an Emerson HDD/DVD/VCR recorder.

The HDD content I recorded cannot be dubbed to the DVD recorder on the Emerson.

Emerson (and by extension, Funai) made an HDD recorder with a VCR and DVD section? And you CAN'T dub to DVD from the hard drive? confused.gif I've never heard of such a beast.

Yes, there were Sylvania and Emerson HDD/DVD/VCR combos dating back to 2005/2006. IIRC these could not do a high speed dub to DVD-R or DVD+R DVDs. High speed dubbing was limited to DVD-RWs. Also, IIRC, the Emerson 100 had an 80GB hard drive and the Sylvania 200 had a 160GB hard drive. Here is a thread discussing the Sylvania model:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/777251/sylvania-hdrv200f-3-in-1-dvd-vcr-combo-with-160gb-digital-recorder/0_60

This November 2009 post describes dubbing limitations of these combo recorders:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/777251/sylvania-hdrv200f-3-in-1-dvd-vcr-combo-with-160gb-digital-recorder/120_60#post_17495840

This is an interesting thread discussing HDD recorders back in 2006:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/665002/list-all-the-2006-hdd-based-models/0_60
Edited by DigaDo - 3/11/13 at 8:29pm
post #10 of 20
Interesting.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Tulpa View Post

Emerson (and by extension, Funai) made an HDD recorder with a VCR and DVD section? And you CAN'T dub to DVD from the hard drive? confused.gif I've never heard of such a beast.
Well, a very strange thing has happened to my Emerson!. YES, I WAS able to dub a few years ago. NOW, I can't. I can't even record TV shows on DVD now when I used to be able to in the past I also get "copy protected" warning now and can't record certain movies. I have another DVD recorder and I can record to DVD on that - so something has happened to the Emerson and I would like to find a way to get the HDD content on it to a DVD - hence my idea of hooking up the other recorder but haven't had time yet to see if it can be done.
post #12 of 20
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Well, a very strange thing has happened to my Emerson!. YES, I WAS able to dub a few years ago. NOW, I can't. I can't even record TV shows on DVD now when I used to be able to in the past I also get "copy protected" warning now and can't record certain movies. I have another DVD recorder and I can record to DVD on that - so something has happened to the Emerson and I would like to find a way to get the HDD content on it to a DVD - hence my idea of hooking up the other recorder but haven't had time yet to see if it can be done.

I expect that there is nothing changed about your Emerson. In the interval betwen when you know you could make recording, and now, it's likely that Comcast has enabled copy protection on every channel that they can, and your Emerson is responding to these content protection signals. Some recorders are more prone to honoring these signals than others. Yours may be particularly sensitive. I would read Wajo's reply about gettng a video filter to remove the copy inhibit signal which will allow you to record.
post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by Church AV Guy View Post

I expect that there is nothing changed about your Emerson. In the interval betwen when you know you could make recording, and now, it's likely that Comcast has enabled copy protection on every channel that they can, and your Emerson is responding to these content protection signals. Some recorders are more prone to honoring these signals than others. Yours may be particularly sensitive. I would read Wajo's reply about gettng a video filter to remove the copy inhibit signal which will allow you to record.
Thank you for that explanation. I am sure that is the problem with making a new recording. However, I have programs recorded some time go on the HDD and can't dub to a new DVD which I was able to do in the past. I am wondering if there is a separate Laser in the Emerson that is not working. I CAN play existing DVDS and I CAN record on the HDD portion.
post #14 of 20
What kind of media are you trying to dub to? It's possible the media you use to use was complaint for CP'd programs but your new media is not...
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by clumb31 View Post

Thank you for that explanation. I am sure that is the problem with making a new recording. However, I have programs recorded some time go on the HDD and can't dub to a new DVD which I was able to do in the past. I am wondering if there is a separate Laser in the Emerson that is not working. I CAN play existing DVDS and I CAN record on the HDD portion.

Let's try this: unplug your Crapcast box from the Emerson, and record for a minute to your HDD, then try to dub that tittle to DVD.

If you can make the dub, the issue is due to the friendly Greedywood CP flag .
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by profhat View Post

Let's try this: unplug your Crapcast box from the Emerson, and record for a minute to your HDD, then try to dub that tittle to DVD.

If you can make the dub, the issue is due to the friendly Greedywood CP flag .
Perhaps I have confused you and used the wrong terminology.The Emerson IS what I have been calling the HDD. As I understand things , it has a hard drive that has been recording the content. Should I have given it a different name?
The content recorded on the Emerson hard drive was such things as PBS specials. It came from the cable box, via coax- this is the only way I can get TV
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by clumb31 View Post

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Originally Posted by profhat View Post

Let's try this: unplug your Crapcast box from the Emerson, and record for a minute to your HDD, then try to dub that tittle to DVD.

If you can make the dub, the issue is due to the friendly Greedywood CP flag .
Perhaps I have confused you and used the wrong terminology.The Emerson IS what I have been calling the HDD. As I understand things , it has a hard drive that has been recording the content. Should I have given it a different name?
The content recorded on the Emerson hard drive was such things as PBS specials. It came from the cable box, via coax- this is the only way I can get TV

In the case of a unit with built in hard drive, brand name and HDD are synonymous in his reply. We need to drill down whether your Emerson is being victimized by errant copy protection signals from the cable box, or whether the symptoms are due to the unit malfunctioning.

So, we need you to connect an old vcr or another dvd player to the Emerson and record something (an old, non copy protected, recording made before these issues cropped up) to the HDD (hard disc drive) and try dubbing it to a blank dvd, If you aree able to dub successfully, that tells us that your Emerson is still in good working order, and you are indeed, getting hit wil CP from Comcrap.
 

post #18 of 20
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Thanks, I tried that and no go. See attached photo.To recapitulate, I have another DVD recorder also connected to Comcast and I can record shows from that whereas I cannot record on the DVD portion of the Emerson but I can on the HDD portion.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by clumb31 View Post

Thanks, I tried that and no go. See attached photo.To recapitulate, I have another DVD recorder also connected to Comcast and I can record shows from that whereas I cannot record on the DVD portion of the Emerson but I can on the HDD portion.

My friend, I guess the issue is in the DVD-Burner (cables, circuits, laser diode, etc) Before to buy a replace, try a good DVD cleaner.
post #20 of 20
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Thanks for the suggestions.
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