2012 ST-50 Burn-In from Fox News Channel Logo - Page 2  

A well balanced diet is the best thing you can do for your tv.

I just gotta say, you must not have bothered to read what I actually wrote, which was a specific effort not to call out anyone's politics (unlike a dozen other posts here), but rather a call for being less angry. I imagine MSNBC makes people pretty angry, too, but I have to confess I've seen that channel even less than I've seen Fox News.

Being angry doesn't lead to being informed, no matter whether you're far left or far right.

I understand what you are saying but I would rather be the moderator of what gets watched in my house and when, not my TV.

I have an LG 55lm6700 right now with no back light issues (lucky) and the picture is pretty superb. I would love to see it next to a calibrated plasma in the same price range but going into a store you can't really get a feel for anything. In my house I have a plasma but it is not even far to compare to it. It is a 5 year old 42" Insignia and the picture is terrible! Cheapest TV I could find at that time that was watchable as it was a TV that was not going to be viewed much.

Also, the more I read about active glasses the more I keep wanting to stick with passive which is not available on plasma's. And last is the TV is in a bright room. So every time I see a good price on a plasma and start doing some reading on it this voice in my head always talks me out of it.

So here is the dilema. New Egg has a great sale on the 60PM6700. If I went with that TV and after purchasing glasses I would be saving $200 from my current LED LG 6700 model. So keep going back and forth with which TV I should go with. Keep the 55" LED or go with the 60" plasma and save $200.
Edited by eric3316 - 3/13/13 at 8:30am

PDPs are most susceptible to image retention when new before the phosphors have aged/hardened.

I have a 2005 Panasonic PDP and a 2007 Pioneer Kuro PDP.

Both displays have many 1000s of hours of operation.

The Panasonic PDP is still subject to image retention.

The Kuro PDP is not. The Kuro PDP's orbiter feature is enabled. The Kuro PDP showed signs of image retention when new but doesn't anymore.

I'd like to know what the difference is between these PDPs, which makes the Kuro display more resistant to image retention.

(BTW... I enjoy watching the FOX news channel, especially the Business Block from 10:00 AM - noon on Saturday)

I think everyone who had experiences with burn-in/IR have one thing in common and that is using D-Nice's settings. With D-Nice's settings on the ST50, I believe his contrast settings is really high for regular TV broadcast. In my opinion, I believe that D-Nice's settings is only meant for Blu-Ray movies and not for regular TV shows with logos.

In your situation, I think the damage is already done. Unless you stop watching the Fox News channel, the IR of the logo will always going to be there. If that's not an option, then I would suggest you lower your contrast to 50 or under and see if that will lessen over time. I guess only time will tell.

So is your only reason to upgrade the size? Other than that, you love your LG LED-LCD?

The 3D point is well taken - the Active 3D gives me a headache. But to my eye the plasma price-point to price-point always looks better than the LED (at any price point I see an LCD/LED, the same price-point plasma has a better picture).

We hear that a lot, but I wonder if anyone has actually proved it.
And when you write this, it suggests the original assertion isn't really true, given your TV is not new.
Yet this backs it up... (although it also points out the orbiter isn't really relevant....)
Different phosphor design.

I don't, not even a little.
Or it won't... Especially if the set "ages" and becomes less prone to retention or he finds some settings that are less prone to it. Oh, and also, he's not going to stop watching it entirely; it's his favorite channel. Why buy a TV and be unable to watch your favorite (or at least most-watched) channel?

Your statement implies that the retention is both "permanent" and "not permanent" at the same time by the way.
For example, you've offered a setting idea here.

Yeah, the size is nice but saving a couple of hundred is also a good thing. After reading a bit though I do no think this TV will be good for me. I have a bright room durung the day and I need a really bright picture to cut through and an LED offers this where I do not think I will get it from a plasma. Maybe the 60lm9700 would do but to far out of my price range right now.

I'd like that 9700 too - a full array LED backlight that's in reach - but it's a good $800 out of my reach as well. How about the LM8600? It's come down substantially, and the initial issues were solved by firmware fixes. It is one of the ones I am taking a look at.

As for the bright rooms, my experience at the store was that these new plasmas are a lot brighter than just a few years ago. I think the GT50 would do fine in my main room, at least in that regard.

I don't think that Churchill meant that you would eventually change your opinions to match neo-con zionist brainwash.

Don't forget that you are an infant in the information age, you haven't had to deal with digging through mountains of propaganda provided by 24 hour news and the internet for any longer than the rest of us.


Edited by ttnuagmada - 3/13/13 at 1:10pm

From what I see, if you watch something with the same static logo for hours and hours everyday, wouldn't that part of the screen get burned-in at one point instead of just IR? Why else would the manufacture tell you not to have something static for more than 2 hours per session? That is why I suggest OP to lower his contrast and just maybe it will prevent a permanent burn-in down the road.

while this is true, it's also a false equivalency, as more people watch Fox News than all other 24/hr news combined.