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post #781 of 1173
So I finally make up my mind after extensive research on these forums and bought the 55" W802A thru amazon. Super excited and cant wait to get this set and see what she'll do.
post #782 of 1173
we just got one last week, i wanted the 60inch panasonic st60, but they seem like they are sold out worldwide

MOM was like just get this sony because we have nothing but sonys , i have an hx800 which i think is better

i need a good calibration format for this new one to see if its any good
post #783 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Cla55clown View Post

So I finally make up my mind after extensive research on these forums and bought the 55" W802A thru amazon. Super excited and cant wait to get this set and see what she'll do.

Same here.

I almost pulled the trigger on the W900 but the price was just too much for my needs (PC & Gaming).

Question: Are the following settings all I need to do for PC viewing...

[Scene Select] to [Graphics]
[Wide Mode] to [Full]
[Display Area] to [Full Pixel]

What else should I change?
post #784 of 1173
im having difficulty getting the tv to connect with wifi

i followed the steps of pressing the wps button on the router modem ( netgear) but the tv wont connect....i have no idea waht else to do to make it connect
any thoughts
post #785 of 1173
Hey Guys I am new here.

I just recently purchased this TV and so far I am really unhappy with it.


When set to general settings the picture clarity looks awesome, but the colors are off (movies, tv, and video games). It seems to have issues with greens and yellows. It is hard to explain but it does not look right


I set it to the Cinema setting ( the one that seems popular right now). The colors look way better like they should, but you lose a lot of the picture clarity and you don't get that HD pop anymore.



Is this normal, or this thing broken?
post #786 of 1173
Well mine arrives tomorrow so have my fingers crossed. Ditto vdubpower in my country i was told that i would have to book the St60 by paying some advance than it would take a month to arrive. I suppose Panasonic is slowing production of their plasmas.
post #787 of 1173
Ugghhhh now I am having horrid backlight bleeding
post #788 of 1173
Oi fellas! Searching for the perfect TV is much like trying to rope a Unicorn -- it is a mythical creature that doesn't exist and you're not gonna find it. haha
I have been researching this purchase since May and what I have found is:
- specs are useful-ish
- Professional reviews can give you a decent starting place, but shouldn't be viewed as the word of God
- You also cannot rely entirely on user reviews on retailer sites, but can help make you aware of problems and issues as they arise (I read all 787 posts before this one)
- Forums like this have been most helpful
- You are best to review all of the above information and then, most importantly, go out and see the tv -- play around with it if you can.

I just returned a Vizio M60A3R and have decided on the 802 for several reasons. The Vizio had slightly noticeable input lag and, in my view, an unsatisfactory picture. When veiwing Return of the Jedi in 24p saw tons of jutter and overcompensation created by the TV's effects and "features." I tried turning all of the features off and on, I did the same with my Blu ray player-- no matter what I did the picture was either ultra processed which made it look like a cheap B movie or chunky and ...I guess just looked like it was struggling to process the picture. I tested Hobbit blu ray as well. Even if the Star Wars remaster caused the cheap look the newly produced Hobbit should have been better look right? Nope. Looked fake and unnatural. When set to 24p even worse. Tried turning all settings off and on -- same unsatisfying picture. I guess what I really want is a "film look," ya know...deep rich film-style movie experience. ...and ALSO awesome videogame display ..is that too much to ask?!

I was turned on to the 802 while seriously considering the Samsung 6400 (prior to the Vizio purchase). Fry's had the Sammy 7100 (the step-up to the 6400 model I was looking at) directly next to the 802 and were running HObbit on a loop fed to all the floor models. When I saw the Sammy 7100, like a moth, I couldn't look away. Sales guy come up and says check the 802 "better darks, shadow" etc. Before then, I hadn't even looked at Sony b/c of budget. Well once I looked at the Sammy nxt to the 802, I immediately noticed the 802 was a much richer picture with the depth and shadows that are req'd to create a picture that truly draws you into the world created on-screen -- not just a bright light to catch your attention. Money constraints led me back to the VIzio however.

Once I got the Vizio back home it was good but not great especially the fact that no matter what features I disabled I still never got as nice a cinema experience as the 802 gave on a crap Fry's mass-connection! For $100 more than I payed for the Vizio and the epic video gaming hardware in the 802, the Sony just makes sense. Just hoping that I don't get a crap screen like some of you guys unfortunately ended up with.

Headed down to Best Buy now to go find my new tech!!

PS My thanks to all of you guys that shared your info on here, it really helped my weigh the benefits and risks and ultimately helped me make this huge decision.
Cheers all!
post #789 of 1173
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Originally Posted by vdubpower View Post

im having difficulty getting the tv to connect with wifi

i followed the steps of pressing the wps button on the router modem ( netgear) but the tv wont connect....i have no idea waht else to do to make it connect
any thoughts

Same. Tried it wired & wireless. Any luck yet dude?
post #790 of 1173
Have you guys with the wi-fi issues tried downloading the new firmware update?
Quote:
UPDATE System Software Update Release Date 8/31/2013 Version PKG3.710AAA File Size 159.57 MB Sony has designed the BRAVIA® Televisions software update process to be customer friendly. This software update (version PKG3.710AAA) provides the following benefits:
Improvements over version PKG3.611AAA:
Improved performance and stability of the Internet features
post #791 of 1173
Can anyone confirm that the models being discussed here, are the equivalent of the KDL-**W805 range here in the UK?

I have a Samsung UE40B7020WW, and whilst it was a great set when we got it, it's now doing my head in, on a regular basis. The backlight bleed is like a set of spotlights around the screen, and it does not work properly with my Marantz SR7005 receiver. Marantz determined that Samsung had failed to implement the HDMI protocols correctly on many of the 7000 and 8000 series sets, and it causes all sorts of issues with the receiver. I won't touch Samsung out of principle now, based on the fact that every one of their devices I have owned, has failed, or just been outright crap.

I have the Xperia Tablet Z, and this set seems like the ideal companion. I was looking at the 47 inch model specifically. I have a 95" 3D projection setup, so I like to have a sizeable difference between TV size, and PJ screen size. That way I appreciate the projector more, when I drop the screen. I have also discovered that whilst I am okay with active 3D on the PJ, it gives me a headache on a monitor or TV, so the passive 3D is a bonus.

I just wanted to know if everything I am reading here, is valid for the UK models of the sets.
post #792 of 1173
Yes W802 in the US = W805 in Europe.
post #793 of 1173
Any luck w finding the ultimate settings for ps3/Blu ray?
post #794 of 1173
Finally its here. My W800 arrived yesterday since it arrived in the evening and was installed by sony support guys only by night i haven't found much time to check on screen uniformity. I just need some help on picture settings. I could find only 3 picture settings Vivid, Standard & Custom does any one here have any idea where i can access the other settings like cinema, sports, Game mode etc. Will be a big help. Special thanks to tgm 1024 and UFO for helping me decide on a tv set.
post #795 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Sehej Rana View Post

Finally its here. My W800 arrived yesterday since it arrived in the evening and was installed by sony support guys only by night i haven't found much time to check on screen uniformity. I just need some help on picture settings. I could find only 3 picture settings Vivid, Standard & Custom does any one here have any idea where i can access the other settings like cinema, sports, Game mode etc. Will be a big help. Special thanks to tgm 1024 and UFO for helping me decide on a tv set.

Go to scene select and choose general. Then go to picture settings and you should be able to choose between a wider variety.
post #796 of 1173
when watching content via internet (Netflix, etc) how do you access the picture settings?

if unable to access, does it default to the custom settings of another input or to some default pre-set?
post #797 of 1173
satisfied owner here of 55w804a here and just wanted to share my settings and tips.

settings: (used cnet settings as a base and tweaked a bit. differences marked with *)

--Picture Mode Cinema 1
Backlight 7 *
Picture 50 *
Brightness 51
Color 47
Hue 0
Color Temperature Warm 2
Sharpness 48
Noise Reduction Off
MPEG Noise Reduction Off
Dot Noise Reduction Off
Reality Creation Off
Video Area Detection Off
Resolution Min
Noise Filtering Off
Smooth Gradation Off
Motionflow Standard *
CineMotion Off

--Advanced Settings sub menu
Black Corrector Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer Low *
Gamma 0
LED Dynamic Control Low
Auto Light Limiter Off
Clear White Off
Live Color Off
White Balance [see below]
Detail Enhancer Off
Edge Enhancer Off
Skin Naturalizer Off
Display Speed Preference Off [greyed out]

--White Balance sub-menu
R-Gain 0
G-Gain 0
B-Gain -3
R-Bias 0
G-Bias 0
B-Bias 0

--Preferences
Scene Select: Cinema
Eco sub-menu
Power Saving: Off
Scene Select Sync Off

the only real problem i have with this set is the mediocre black level when frame dimming doesn't kick in during dark scenes but it works well probably 90% of the time and looks great when it does.
i experimented with lowering the picture and increasing the backlight to try and make the switching less noticeable. i settled on 7 and 50 to approximate the look of cnet's 1 and 81 settings.
i also think that advanced contrast enhancer looks better on low rather than medium, and i really like the motionflow effect so i set this on standard.
the rest of the settings i just copied because it looks fine to me and i don't know how to check for them.
for uniformity, i need to observe this for longer but it seems my panel is perfectly uniform when the temperature is warm but when i turn on the air conditioning there's a bit of bleeding on some corners.

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post #798 of 1173
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Originally Posted by musicmafia View Post

when watching content via internet (Netflix, etc) how do you access the picture settings?

if unable to access, does it default to the custom settings of another input or to some default pre-set?

When watching Netflix you can't make changes to the picture settings. You can change them by going to youtube and start watching any video and then pause it and then you can make changes to the picture settings. Kind of a pain in the butt but that is the only way I found to make changes.

I bought the W802a at Best Buy on 6/28/2013 and 3 weeks ago the tv started shutting off and flashing 4 red lights on the front led bar. It would reset if you unpluged it from the wall, this went on for 3 days then the set would not reset. I contacted Sony and they shipped me out a new set that is expected to arrive sometime today. Not sure what caused the tv to start messing up but their customer service is a joke. Hopefully this next one will last for more than 2 months, other than that I love the picture from the tv. I'm kind of picky about the quality of the picture but I can say that it looks real good in my eye after adjusting the settings.
post #799 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Ob1-Adobe View Post

When set to general settings the picture clarity looks awesome, but the colors are off (movies, tv, and video games). It seems to have issues with greens and yellows. It is hard to explain but it does not look right
I set it to the Cinema setting ( the one that seems popular right now). The colors look way better like they should, but you lose a lot of the picture clarity and you don't get that HD pop anymore.
Is this normal, or this thing broken?

As a new W802A owner myself, I feel your pain. Rest assured: an optimal setting is out there waiting for you!!
For sure, you should try some of the settings posted in this thread. They're a good place to start.

But, here's something I figured out while optimizing my TV for my eye: Any of the Sony presets can be "transformed" into any of the other presets. What this means: there's nothing special about "Cinema 1" vs. "General Custom" outside of the settings that you have full control over. So, try to apply some of the "General" settings to "Cinema" to try to bring the pop that you're looking for.

Try: Starting with Cinema, try Warm 1 instead of Warm 2. Try turning MotionFlow off.
post #800 of 1173
While sorting out the display optimization, I found it helpful to have a comparison of all the default settings for the most popular default modes.
I also included the settings from CNET, FlatPanels, and hdtvtest.

Here's my Docs spreadsheet, in case it's helpful for anyone else:
Sony W082A Default Settings

Note: I don't seem to have a "LED Dynamic Control" on my W802A - what's up with that?
post #801 of 1173
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Originally Posted by redhatyellow View Post

Have you guys with the wi-fi issues tried downloading the new firmware update?

Can these updates be installed via USB?
post #802 of 1173
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Originally Posted by rkodey View Post

As a new W802A owner myself, I feel your pain. Rest assured: an optimal setting is out there waiting for you!!
For sure, you should try some of the settings posted in this thread. They're a good place to start.

But, here's something I figured out while optimizing my TV for my eye: Any of the Sony presets can be "transformed" into any of the other presets. What this means: there's nothing special about "Cinema 1" vs. "General Custom" outside of the settings that you have full control over. So, try to apply some of the "General" settings to "Cinema" to try to bring the pop that you're looking for.

Try: Starting with Cinema, try Warm 1 instead of Warm 2. Try turning MotionFlow off.



I've put it on Cinema, though don't you find that the picture clarity dips, and looks much softer?

*and to update an earlier post, my light bleed seems to have disappeared.
post #803 of 1173
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ob1-Adobe View Post

When set to general settings the picture clarity looks awesome, but the colors are off (movies, tv, and video games). It seems to have issues with greens and yellows. It is hard to explain but it does not look right
I set it to the Cinema setting ( the one that seems popular right now). The colors look way better like they should, but you lose a lot of the picture clarity and you don't get that HD pop anymore.
Is this normal, or this thing broken?

As a new W802A owner myself, I feel your pain. Rest assured: an optimal setting is out there waiting for you!!
For sure, you should try some of the settings posted in this thread. They're a good place to start.

But, here's something I figured out while optimizing my TV for my eye: Any of the Sony presets can be "transformed" into any of the other presets. What this means: there's nothing special about "Cinema 1" vs. "General Custom" outside of the settings that you have full control over. So, try to apply some of the "General" settings to "Cinema" to try to bring the pop that you're looking for.

Try: Starting with Cinema, try Warm 1 instead of Warm 2. Try turning MotionFlow off.

 

Be careful here.  Over in the R550A thread it's been reported that there are cases where two presets with identical settings within them will appear differently.  No one has fully figured this out yet either because of how poorly documented these things are from Sony, but one of the issues IIRC was that the "warm" color temperature has a slightly different impact when under "Standard" vs. under "Custom".

post #804 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Yappadappadu View Post

Yes W802 in the US = W805 in Europe.

Thank you.smile.gif
post #805 of 1173
Got my TV today... this thing is a beauty. Sony's interface is nice and the TV is so responsive... can't wait to game on it. Definitely glad I didn't spend extra for the W900A !!!
post #806 of 1173
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Originally Posted by redhatyellow View Post

Got my TV today... this thing is a beauty. Sony's interface is nice and the TV is so responsive... can't wait to game on it. Definitely glad I didn't spend extra for the W900A !!!

Yes the w802a is a bargain. Great picture quality. The main things that the w900a has over the w802a are better black level and wider color gamut. Thats why I always say if you have the money, get the w900a. Otherwise, the w802a is excellent.
post #807 of 1173


Pics of my 47 W800. Guys any idea where to go to turn on or off the eco mode?
post #808 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Sehej Rana View Post



Pics of my 47 W800. Guys any idea where to go to turn on or off the eco mode?

Go to [HOME] and then [SETTINGS] and then [PREFERENCES]
post #809 of 1173
Go to [HOME] and then [SETTINGS] and then [PREFERENCES][/quote]

Thanks a lot found it.
post #810 of 1173
hi, i'm from Indonesia and i'm moving to a new home this week
im buying 2 HDTV 1 for living room and 1 for the bed room
i've done my research and most likely i'll buy Sony KDL-70R550A for the living room ( actually i wanted the Panasonic plasma 65VT60G but i'm afraid that there's too much light in the living room
and my elderly parents were the one who gonna use it more and they watch TVs all day long so i think the sony will be better for them
and for my bedroom im in a little bit of dillema here.
i've narrowed down my choices to

this sony KDL-47W804A ( i think this is the same as yours W802A only region differences ? )
or
last year model KDL-46HX855 (it comes with free bunchin,, i supposed its the speaker bar below the TV ? )

the price of both of the TV are the same
so i've no idea which one to choose as the last time i bought a TV is like 10 years ago and still going strong, its the Sony rear projection 46" .

which one should i get ?

i like the free "bunchin" from the HX855 design but i planned to put the tv on the wall in my bed room so i think it wouldnt be usefull for me.

please advice, thank you.
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